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BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?

JedMarum 04 Nov 00 - 11:52 PM
Troll 04 Nov 00 - 11:55 PM
JedMarum 05 Nov 00 - 12:09 AM
Lucius 05 Nov 00 - 12:10 AM
catspaw49 05 Nov 00 - 12:16 AM
Lonesome EJ 05 Nov 00 - 12:26 AM
JedMarum 05 Nov 00 - 12:45 AM
katlaughing 05 Nov 00 - 01:20 AM
DougR 05 Nov 00 - 01:55 AM
Murray MacLeod 05 Nov 00 - 02:44 AM
Ebbie 05 Nov 00 - 03:58 AM
Dharmabum 05 Nov 00 - 07:45 AM
Midchuck 05 Nov 00 - 08:19 AM
Alice 05 Nov 00 - 09:21 AM
GUEST,The Invisible Blazoona 05 Nov 00 - 09:30 AM
Gern 05 Nov 00 - 09:58 AM
bob schwarer 05 Nov 00 - 10:01 AM
McGrath of Harlow 05 Nov 00 - 10:05 AM
Naemanson 05 Nov 00 - 10:09 AM
Susan from California 05 Nov 00 - 11:08 AM
Alice 05 Nov 00 - 11:12 AM
JedMarum 05 Nov 00 - 11:21 AM
JedMarum 05 Nov 00 - 11:53 AM
Alice 05 Nov 00 - 01:08 PM
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DougR 05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM
M. Ted (inactive) 05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM
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Whistle Stop 06 Nov 00 - 12:30 PM
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Little Hawk 06 Nov 00 - 12:50 PM
annamill 06 Nov 00 - 01:06 PM
M. Ted (inactive) 06 Nov 00 - 01:18 PM
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GUEST,BelmontBlvd 06 Nov 00 - 06:25 PM
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catspaw49 06 Nov 00 - 07:21 PM
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Subject: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JedMarum
Date: 04 Nov 00 - 11:52 PM

OK - we've had lots of political discussion (maybe too much) but I wonder who is ready to go out on a limb here ... Who do you think will win the election on Tuesday? Please don't put down who you want to win. I am just curious who will be right. For me, it just it's just too close to call.

Anyone got predictions?

italics mended (you just put the "i" before the "/" when you closed them)
- el joeclone -


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Troll
Date: 04 Nov 00 - 11:55 PM

Me too. Too close to call. Check with me on Wednesday. Afternoon please. I like to sleep in.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 12:09 AM

chuckle@troll

Look likes I forgot to close my HTML command! Sorry for the extra italics, folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lucius
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 12:10 AM

Hopefully the American people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 12:16 AM

I'll be around Tuesday night for a short while, but I'll miss the festivities/mourning on Wednesday since I'm gonna' be kinda' indisposed. I'll check in whenever I can that nite or Thursday maybe.

Who will win? Too close to call.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 12:26 AM

Gore,in a squeaker.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 12:45 AM

Ah, LEJ the first brave to go out on a limb!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:20 AM

May be a tie? I hope you are right, LeeJ! I heard some predictions on the radio that it would be Bush for the popular vote and Gore by electoral college vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: DougR
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:55 AM

It may be very close as most people are predicting, but I think Bush will win.

DougR (surprise!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 02:44 AM

Am I the only person here who has wagered the outcome? I still think my money is safe and that Gore will be the next incumbent. I mean, seriously, I know y'all elected Reagan, but nobody makes the same mistake twice, do they?

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 03:58 AM

I suspect it will be Bush, and not as close as has been forecast.

I hope I am wrong.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Dharmabum
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:45 AM

Sure wish they had "None of the above" on the ballot.
Gore by a c**t hair.

DB.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Midchuck
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 08:19 AM

Someone not qualified for the job.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Alice
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:21 AM

Too close to call. I already voted by absentee ballot on Friday. We had dire predictions of bad weather, below zero temps, and I didn't want to deal with it on Tuesday, so I went to the courthouse Friday and quickly got the job done. The weather may still play a part in the turn out, since winter storms seem to be on the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: GUEST,The Invisible Blazoona
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:30 AM

The winner will be the the rich white guy from the south who supports NAFTA, the "war" on drugs and the death penalty, and whose father was a Washington insider for decades.

In other words, it ain't gonna be Nader.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Gern
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 09:58 AM

The winner will be a child of privilege, spoiled by family wealth and accustomed to being catered to. The winner will be white, male and mainstream in professed religious outlook. He will represent the entrenched interests of big business, avoid the moral issues of our military and economic hegemony, and ignore the poor once the votes are counted. He will lack sincere convictions, being motivated instead by eagerness for power. The winning strategy will be to measure every comment cautiously, based on the marketing research of campaign staff, and restrict all debate so as to exclude those outside the elite and any creative approaches to our problems. Voters will be bored stiff with nitpicking banalities on the two or three issues he agrees to discuss, and he will demonstrate only a marginally different stance than his opponent on these. The winner will, in short, change very little that needs changing in this world. People will still die on battlefields, oil will be pumped and dumped like there's no tomorrow, America will continue to export DDT and tobacco to countries that cannot feed their people and then demand their multi-billion dollar debt payments. I feel sadly confident in this prediction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: bob schwarer
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 10:01 AM

Our local newspaper, part of the New York Times family, has endorsed Mr. Bush.

What do they know that they are withholding from the unwashed masses? Generally the are like Siamese twins with any democrat.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 10:05 AM

"I know y'all elected Reagan, but nobody makes the same mistake twice, do they? " Oh yes they do. They elected Reagan a second time as well. (And Maggie Thatcher got back three times!)

Anyway, it's bound to be some American...

But I'd just love to see the winner walk up to the mike when the results have been declared, and he says "Fooled ya, didn't I?"

Whatever happens, remember the 20 year rule means that one that gets elected this time is due to die in office (well Regan technically didn't...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Naemanson
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 10:09 AM

Kat - Actually it will be everyone in a tie but the winner will be the one who is smiling.

Don'cha get tired of that uniform they all wear? Jacket, Tie, etc.

Gern - you hit the nail right on the head!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Susan from California
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 11:08 AM

I'm afraid that W will.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Alice
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 11:12 AM

I feel like watching the campaign is like watching the tv series called "Survivor". "strategy game"


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 11:21 AM

Well, still not many real predictions, LEJ, Doug, Ebbie and DB (DB 'a c**t hair' - what the hell is that, or do I even want to know). So, I looked in at the top three polls this morning:

** Zogby (MSNBC/Reuters is a popular opinion poll) says Bush 46 and Gore 44
** Battleground Poll (a poll aimed at most likely voters) says Bush 46 and Gore 37
** Portrait of America (a poll aimed at "best cross section" of voters) says Bush 48 and Gore 41

While each of these polls has earned respect for measuring popular opinion, Battleground Poll has the best track record for accurate predictions. It looks like the polls are thinking like us; it's hard to call - but it may be that Ebbie is right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 11:53 AM

For most recent accuracy, the Portrait of America (Rasmussen Research) poll has been the most accurate predicter of results. They apparently hit the last election, and the primaries right on target ... for what that's worth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Alice
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:08 PM

Jed, the poll I heard this morning said they are basically even. I still say it is too close for me to even make a guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: JamesJim
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:22 PM

An American will win this election. A patriot. But mostly, the American people will win. We live in a great country folks! No matter who wins, the "fore"thought of our forefathers will protect us all, and, makes this a great land in which to live. I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN(even if we are called "ugly" by some).

Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: DougR
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM

Jed: I almost (but not really) wish Gore would win so those of us who support Bush wouldn't have to put up with the weeping and wailing and the gnashing of teeth on Wednesday morning.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 01:58 PM

Before I predict, let me say a few things-First, it didn't take a rocket scientist to pick the last election--and, for all of you who comment on the fact that we have two rich boys to chose from, don't forget that last time, we had two poor boys to choose from--

Next, GW's only claim to fame is that he is the son of a president that we voted out of office, he has no major issues, and the economy is great--Gore has made no major mistakes, and there is no Willie Horton ad (GW, incidentally, was the driving force behind that)

Pretend that you never heard word one about any polls, who would you pick? And remember that the only polls that count are the ones where people vote--

All that said, I pick Gore--and by a surprising margin--(Bush may fall as low as 37%, which is the magic number that Bush Sr. hit(if I remember correctly) and Bob Dole (the only presidential candidate to publically acknowledge what most of us suspected--that Republicans can't get it up), and corresponds to the approximate percentage of registered Republicans--

California will go Gore--forget that Bush spent 5 million on TV ads, remember Michael Huffington! Florida will go Gore, as will Michigan and PA--

Ralph Nader will fall way short of his 5%,(I say about 2%), but the Green Party will elect a number of local candidates, most noteably in DC, which will make DC statehood a hot issue--

After this, the crystal is dark again--


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 02:07 PM

RALPH NADER!!!

Just kidding.

Something like 2 years ago, I predicted that Bush would win, so I'll stick by that.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 02:07 PM

What I find interesting are the Zogby & other polls that have shown for months and still show that over two-thirds of the American electorate categorically opposes the planks- individually or collectively- in the Republican platform. Yet the race is still 50/50?

I fear we will be waking Wednesday to a Pres. Dubya as long as the voters can be this mindless & see no connection between Dubya & his party's agenda.

Hope I'm wrong, tho- Greg


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: thosp
Date: 05 Nov 00 - 02:30 PM

corporate interests

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:30 PM

For the past year I've been predicting that Bush will take it. I stand by that prediction, even though I'll be voting for Gore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: mousethief
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:37 PM

I predict Bush will win. I predict in 4 years there will not be anybody willing to admit they voted for him.

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 12:50 PM

A front man for the Machine will win. His name will be either Bush or Gore. The public will lose for 4 more years. And a bemused world will watch it all unfold.

Sorry, but that's the gist of it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: annamill
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:06 PM

I haven't read all the threads, and I don't know who will win. I only know who will lose! Us!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 01:18 PM

Alex,

It's the damnest thing, isn't it? So many of our presidents appear to have been elected without having one single person vote for them!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:21 PM

And I predict (if my prediction is correct about the election) that you, Mousethief/Alex, will find yourself, again, among the minority four years from now.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 03:25 PM

McGrath:
The 20 year rule held. Regan was brain dead in office.
Cheers,
Larry.
PS, the rich fat cats will win. Everyone else will loose, but we will loose less if Gore wins.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: mmm
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 03:34 PM

Who will win? the jack-ass in the nearest field ! oops i guess that would be Bush and Gore lol mmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: flattop
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 05:35 PM

If this thread is an indication of how American voters feel, whoever wins may perform above most peoples' expectations. I hope so. I hope that Americans get a better president than they expect. Being born rich, having a concern about the companies that fuel the economy, having previous experience in government, these things don't make candidates worse humans than you or I. Well I can't speak for you but…

We have several decent leaders in the upcoming Canadian federal election. Even the right wing bastard seems like a reasonable enough fellow. Our previous leader may have told a few lies but he's a hoot, loud and folksy, like Chuck and Sandytoes, although I don't think Chuck and Sandytoes tell lies. Our left wing party is lead by a woman born into a rich family. She seems to be genuinely interested in people. Her biggest problem is that she is too nice so voters don't take her seriously. A fourth party is lead by a right wing nice guy. His party was once one of the top two parties in Canada but now he has it on its death bed. He's been around Canadian politics for a long time and, in my mind, he has consistently been a loser. He probably represents Canadians better than the other leaders, since we are a country of losers, but most of us don't want to admit that in a voting booth. We'd rather pretend that we a bright and sophisticated and suave and superior to most of the folks who run for office.

John Travolta told Rob Reiner something like, 'When we were good we were never as good as they though we were and when we were bad we were never as bad as they thought we were.' We might keep that in mind when we cut up those people with enough public spirit to represent the wild and outrageous views of their constituents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: GUEST,BelmontBlvd
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 06:25 PM

A vote for Nader is a vote for bush, ha ha! Sooooo... Vote for Nader!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: GUEST,Big Mick
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:13 PM

How it will go??...................Oh well, what the hell. I have been dead in this since last December so here is my prediction. It is so razor thin, but I will tell you what I think. By my count Gore has 168 electoral votes sown up, Bush has 205. Among the tossup states I believe my guy will win Arkansas (squeeker), Florida (what a surprise!!), Iowa, Michigan (how could he lose with the brainpower he has here....LOL), Minnesota, Missouri (Carnahan factor), New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, and Wisconsin. This will put him at 302 electoral votes. There are a couple of them there that others don't agree with me on, but let's see what happens.

And remember folks, The Only Good Republican is an Irish Republican LOL

Die is cast, work is done, what will be will be. I am tired and glad it is over. See ya tomorrow.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:21 PM

Yeah......I think we need a new thread for tomorrow for the Mudcat analysts......"US ELECTIONS-Mudcat Talking Heads Analysis"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Snuffy
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:42 PM

What's the point in predictions?

If you're wrong - you look a fool

If you're right - so what?

Take the long-term view - I'll know on Wednesday, and I'll know for the rest of my life. I don't have to like it, but I'll know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:48 PM

Well, you Gore supporters should feel a bit better now. The polls seem to be giving Gore the edge now.

Mick, I'm with you (not politically of course). I'll just be glad when the election is history, regardless of who wins.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:53 PM

That 'Irish Republican' saying rules, Mick. Tehy sell shirts with that on it? :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 10:41 PM

Does anyone know the statistics regarding how many vice-presidents running for the big one have been defeated ? (I don't know, I want somebody to tell me)

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 11:03 PM

In fact they do sell shirts with that saying on them................hahahahahah..............I wear one whenever I am playing for a particularly conservative and US Republican audience.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 11:05 PM

Oh, cool, I want one! You don't know where one could be bought, do you, Mick?

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: GUEST,Stackley
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 11:11 PM

Nice guess there, Emperor Lagamorph, but WRONG.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who will win presidency on Tuesday?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 11:15 PM

Oh, drat, you deny it! You wouldn't lie to me, would you? Nah. But what's with following me around, Stalk-ley?

You take care now. :)

---Lepus Rex


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