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beachcomber 02 Nov 00 - 03:18 PM
GUEST,Megan deeth 17 May 04 - 05:59 AM
Noreen 17 May 04 - 07:51 AM
Bearheart 17 May 04 - 08:29 PM
Malcolm Douglas 17 May 04 - 09:50 PM
GUEST 17 May 04 - 09:53 PM
GUEST,Jon 17 May 04 - 10:03 PM
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Subject: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: beachcomber
Date: 02 Nov 00 - 03:18 PM

My problem is that I need to be able to play an intro and possibly lead this song (As in the planxty version) on 5 - string banjo. can any one advise. I find it very difficult to arrange. Any Banjoists who can help may keep me my job. beachcomber


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: GUEST,Megan deeth
Date: 17 May 04 - 05:59 AM

you got the first two virses wrong


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: Noreen
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:51 AM

Would you care to explain what you mean, Megan??

For example, who got the first two verses wrong (if it was me, I'm sorry...) and what are the 'right' verses?

And who says so?

:0)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: Bearheart
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:29 PM

I think maybe she was referring to the version in the DT which doesn't seem to be the Planxty version?

I checked it because I like collecting cersions of this ballad and hadn't added this to my song book-- speaking of which I can't find the Dolores Keane version either-- see related thread above. I even got desperate and started looking for it on the net but so far no luck. Guess I will check the net for the Planxty version too since my curiosity's up.

Sorry I can't help with the banjo part...

Bekki


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:50 PM

We often find people wandering into an old, forgotten thread, usually the only one of several on the same subject that doesn't already contain the little nugget of information they possess. They then triumphantly post the tidbit, perhaps under the impression that they are making a worthwhile contribution to the world's sum of knowledge. It is probably unkind to point this out to them, but irresistable when they are aggressive or cocky.

I expect that "Bearheart" is right in this case, and "Megan deeth" (god knows why people use these annoying aliases. Are they ashamed of their given names?) didn't understand that the DT set was a completely different variant of the song; there are a great many.

Mind you, the DT file acknowledges no source, traditional or printed, for the text or tune; so some confusion is perfectly understandable. The note implies (probably by accident) that the text is from Scarborough, Song Catcher from the Southern Mountains (sic); it isn't, though. Far from it. Tune and text are exactly as published by Cecil Sharp in One Hundred English Folksongs (1916), which was a slight re-write (collated from other English variants he encountered) of a set got from Mrs Anna Pond (Somerset, 1904), combined with a tune from Mrs Emma Overd (also Somerset, 1904).

Planxty got "their" version from a much later recording of John Reilly (Co. Roscommon). The text is quite similar, though the initial stanzas differ a little. The tunes of both are very closely related.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:53 PM

The Dt version I tried does not sound too far off the Planxty version to me in terms of tune (here. Words wise, I need to check but think Planxty open "There were three old gypsies came to our old door"

While on the song, I know we have one 2 part version on the same lines but starting somewhere different for part 1 here


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:03 PM

(We cross posted Malcolm)


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