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BS: Relationship with an older woman

Mbo 07 Mar 00 - 09:43 PM
Wavestar 07 Mar 00 - 08:58 PM
Mbo 06 Mar 00 - 08:56 PM
Wavestar 06 Mar 00 - 07:24 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 06 Mar 00 - 11:40 AM
GUEST,The Beanster 05 Mar 00 - 11:29 PM
Mbo 05 Mar 00 - 10:39 PM
Troll 05 Mar 00 - 10:28 PM
GUEST,The Beanster 05 Mar 00 - 10:15 PM
Wavestar 05 Mar 00 - 10:04 PM
wysiwyg 05 Mar 00 - 01:56 AM
wysiwyg 05 Mar 00 - 01:49 AM
Troll 05 Mar 00 - 01:37 AM
Oversoul 05 Mar 00 - 01:13 AM
GUEST,thomas the rhymer 05 Mar 00 - 12:35 AM
Oversoul 05 Mar 00 - 12:30 AM
wysiwyg 05 Mar 00 - 12:13 AM
GUEST,thomas the reamer 05 Mar 00 - 12:06 AM
Hagbardr 04 Mar 00 - 11:52 PM
Oversoul 04 Mar 00 - 11:46 PM
GUEST,thomas the rhymer 04 Mar 00 - 11:30 PM
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GUEST,thomas the rhymer 04 Mar 00 - 10:51 PM
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Mbo 04 Mar 00 - 10:38 PM
Oversoul 04 Mar 00 - 10:35 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 09:43 PM

On the Forum page, where it says "Quick Links" select 'send personal message' when asked who you want to send it to, type the person's Mudcat nickname in, and it will lead you to a place where you can post a personal message. To check and reply to personal messages--since you ARE a member, you should see above 'create new thread' a link that says "you have x number of active message(s). Don't feel bad. I've been here since June and only found out that I had a personal page in January.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Wavestar
Date: 07 Mar 00 - 08:58 PM

Perhaps so, Mbo. This isn't actually the sort of thing I feel the need to share with all the 'Catters anyhow, but since it preys on my mind, I would like to talk about it... How do I talk to you elsewhere? -J


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 08:56 PM

I tough to say, Wave. I'm a mixture of both your feelings...all I can do is wait and pray for forgiveness. I feel like such scum for what I've done...and the fact that I hurt her is sometimes to hard to bear. Both of us are trying to become at least acquaintances again, but it may take a good long time. Hoo boy, 5 years is an awful long time. I don't really know what to say...I'm very unexperienced in these matters. I'm 21, and supposed to be an adult, but I feel like an ignorant 8 year old sometimes. I have a lot of growing to do. And I know like HE does that it is extremely hard to let go and try and find someone new. I've been waiting for someone for 21 years, and it still hasn't happened. I can't say how long it will take for him to recover. I'm sort of like a Little Red Rubber Ball--the harder you throw me, the higher I bounce back. Ugh...I'm rambling...perhaps we should go to personal pages, unless there are any other youngster who could use this as reference material?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Wavestar
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 07:24 PM

Mbo- If you know how he feels, can you maybe give me a hint on how to talk to him ever again? Or should I just leave him alone? I've moved on, and have a very happy relationship of about five years, but he hasn't... or maybe he has... I can't tell, I just know that it scares him to talk to me, and there are things behind his eyes I never saw before it all went... pear shaped :P

-J


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 06 Mar 00 - 11:40 AM

There are plenty of sites for the rude and abusive.... And lots-o-hardcore, both in people and music.... and these are the reasons I look to the 'trad.... for the folkies and histories let me feel glad!....

And you men out there with the cool attitude,.... Who think that intelligence lusts for the lude.... Just what are ye seeking, by humping but youth.... and eating green apples, don't lift us,...in truth....


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,The Beanster
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 11:29 PM

Davecoje, Now don't think I'm going to fan these flames, because I'm not--it's hard but I'm going to be polite. First, Dave, you owe us older women an apology. Second, with your obvious homophobic bent (no pun intended--LOL) which points to an uncertainty perhaps of your own orientation and lack of insight, maybe the hostility you feel is neither directed at Thomas or anyone else here, but at yourself?


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:39 PM

Know how you feel there Wavestar. Well, actually, I know how he feels. Sad, that. Unward and upward I guess.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Troll
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:28 PM

Thomas the Rhymer---People like Dave get their jollies by trying to make you twitch.If you do, they've won.The best tactic is to ignore 'em but if yer not gonna, make damn sure you can take it as well as dish it out 'cause they don't take prisoners!

As I said, it's best to ignore 'em! That way they've lost automatically.

Wavestar and Meebo--Take it from one who knows;you can and will love many times in the course of your lives.It's hard to lose a love but you will love again and stronger because of the lost love. So hang in there! After fifty years or so it starts to get easier. *grin*

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,The Beanster
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:15 PM

Guest, Speaking AS a 43-year-old woman (who doesn't look a day over 42), I say yeah baby!! I wouldn't mind a youngun' like yerself a-settin' here by me right now! LOLOL Best of luck to you! And please, let us know how it goes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Wavestar
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 10:04 PM

Thomas the Rhymer-

Don't knock Metallica, we've all got our dirty secrets, and hard rock and Goth-Inductrial is one of mine. DOn't stress out about people being rude on the 'Cat, it only upsets you, they get to laugh... if we all ignore it, eventually I find that toilet talk goes away. Of course, I fully expect to be flamed for saying that, but then it's my turn to laugh...

Glad someone could appreciate what I said, Mbo, I only wish love had endured in the end for me... He's too ashamed to speak to me, now. I still miss him, for all that.

-J


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:56 AM

Thomas the rhymer--

try this:

Click here

If that works, please leave word there what your e-address is so we can correspond.

Hey, everyone else-- don't go there!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:49 AM

ttr-- talk to me, baby!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Troll
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:37 AM

Viola player huh? Oooookay! that explains a lot Everyone makes fun of you 'cause you play in a different clef, don't they? And you feel you have to strike back.Verrry interesting.

In a more serious vein, the viola is a great instrument. I really like that warm "woody" sound. How far along are you? My 17 year old played viola for eleven years and got to be pretty good but decided bass was more fun.Kids!

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 01:13 AM

Chaucer, relax. I have never had a problem with bullshit here, and I deserved it! I think you should consider staying but you decide that, please look around, you will find this a good place. I've been hanging out here a couple of weeks and it has done me a bit of good. People tell me I am the biggest prick here, can that be so? Explore for yourself. No hard feelings...yet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the rhymer
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 12:35 AM

I tried to post out, but it couldn't be done and announcing my address would not bring much fun so maybe another little tactic will do so I can discuss our "more freely" with you


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 12:30 AM

Does this mean you won't be buying a Mudcat T-shirt? Shucks. I was just starting to like you, please think it over, share your concerns with others in the "Cafe" before you leave. I love folk music and witty people who sing and play their songs of...(whatever), honestly! To be earnest, I can't give it away here, either! Shit, maybe I should leave too. Is it something I said? Let me be perfectly frank, I will order two T-shirts and two CD'S on Monday to repay the Cafe for this loss of revenue. I promise!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 12:13 AM

Thomas, is that you (thomas the rhymer)?

If you don't wish to join I would love to hear from you via personal e-mail, just go to Quick Links/Send a Personal Message and send me your e-address, I don't hang mine here in plain view.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the reamer
Date: 05 Mar 00 - 12:06 AM

LOOK DAVE! NO ONE ELSE IS TALKING LIKE YOU ARE,....DAVE! YOU AREN'T FUNNY, INTERESTING, OR CREATIVE, AND THE THOUGHTS YOU ARE SHARING WITH ME HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FOLK MUSIC, SINGER-SONGWRITER, POP, SWING, OR BLUES. IF YOU GET OFF ON TOILET HUMOR, GO THERE DUDE! NOT HERE! THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE, AND YOU ARE ONE SLEEZY CREEP. GO BACK TO YOUR METALLICA< AND LEAVE THE SUBLIME TO THE THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT SINGING, PLAYING, WRITING, RESEARCHING, AND SHARING SONGS. DAVE,.......... THIS IS GOODBYE.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Hagbardr
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:52 PM

Davie, Davie, Davie.... younger ain't always better. Would you rather have the '68 Mustang or the '79 Mustang?

Hagbard


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:46 PM

Do you smoke a pipe? Facial hair, let me guess... yours on the ass of a neighbor's pet. The pet is not satisfied, yet again. Animal abuse, summon the tamer! Hark, it is only that "goat-blow", thomas the reamer!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the rhymer
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:30 PM

i motioned for moments to come to my aid while the foul mouth'd farthing found dreamers dismayed this heaven we nurture is just what we make it and dave's fantasies scantilly clad for two fake it...

I feel sorry for any one who finds you the least bit sexy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:09 PM

Thanks for the insight, thomas the rhymer. You have been the older woman to many a lad. We're much for the wiser, our jism you've gulpled, and thanks we've a plenty to ye down below, ...nice kneepads dude!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the rhymer
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:51 PM

the dancing, the dancing, Oh please won't they stop...... this promenade prancing, that shoplifting cop...... its simple you see, and I'll tell you right now the tradition you carry 'tis..."giving a cow"

"giving a cow" means--- "picking a fight so you'll seem interesting".... give it a rest davecoje?


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,pollye
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:49 PM

Oh Dave I'm so sorry you weren't breastfed as a infant. I'm sure many years in therapy will help you get over this resentment you have for 'dusties'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:38 PM

C'mon guys, settle down. There's folks in need of help with lyrics and songs...lets help them out instead of arguing and insinuating?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:35 PM

Fogive me Chaucer wannabe, but would you please put that response into English, or at least something I can understand? And did you ever want to bone an older woman, because she wanted to do it too? Mind you this is a music site, alledgedly. Beware, I am the Anti-Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the rhymer
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 10:09 PM

truth is the sword that has double edges like cheaters and liars, and rushes and sedges but the gloss on the page is much deeper than those who hold truth as a weapon, you'll regret your sad pose

golly gee willikers dude get you a life you oughtn't put down your own later life for rudeness is fashion to those who love strife and the conscience you lack, is both pungent and rife


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:55 PM

Older women are only target practice until something better and younger comes along. I am a guy who still stands up to piss and ain't afraid to say I have boned a few "dusties" in my day. What the heck? You assholes make me feel like I'm a Young Republican on a weekend retreat to ...Indianapolis! If you can post this nonsense topic expect the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,thomas the rhymer
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 09:24 PM

Age difference is highly overrated, and too much concern leaves us confused and dated... for the love that we feel is the reality of the day, and emotional connection is worth all we could say!

did you ever turn down love that you feel deep? could we wake from a dream while loosing no sleep? are the riddles inside us so orderly too,... that he is too thus and so, and she,... smiling, blue?


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 10:11 PM

hey Meebo.........

"And as for you the years will heal, all the wounds that have been opened.
Just like time will rid the fields of all the flowers that have ripened.
Of all these things you can be sure
Only Love
Will endure."
------Patrick Sky

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 09:56 PM

Thanks for the insight, Wavestar. I wish I had realized that myself in the past. Life sure is a school of hard knocks, isn't it? I can only hope that time will heal all our wounds.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mbo
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 09:31 PM

Good luck on that, Dave! Oooh, viola player too...

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Oversoul
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 09:21 PM

Women in their forties try real hard to make a younger man feel...well, appreciated. I have found that women in this age group are better in touch with personal hygiene issues as well, but I am of French origin and single. I am in love with my viola instructor...but she is 30-ish and Polish, stay tuned...


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Mar 00 - 03:19 PM

An older woman? So long as it's not your mother...this gets complex...


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,Ickle Dorritt
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 05:14 PM

Honestly, I go to Portugal for two weeks and I come back as a bloody guest -who ate my cookie?? I am married to a man 10 years older than me and I have always told him I will stick to the following rule When the teeth go -he goes!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Wavestar
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 04:39 PM

My only advice with age is, don't mess around with anyone too young. By this I mean most likely younger than any of you will be looking, or at least I hope... but under 18 is bad stuff. If they are this young, and you're that much older, chances are they aren't emotionally stable enough to handle it, even if they're exceptionally mature. I know. I was that young, and if anyone I know could have handled it, I could. But the hiding was just too much, and I just couldn't do it, and it hurt so much more in the end.

However... it sounds to me like you're well beyond those worries, and I say go for it... and have a good time. There are far too few good relationships in the world these days.

-J


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 06:52 AM

I reckon the question to ask yourself is : how would you feel if you don't go ahead? Imagine yourself taking the decision not to go ahead, and see how it feels. If it feels wrong then you know that you should go ahead. If it feels right then that helps as well. That is the strategy I always use when on the horns of a dilema. If I can't make a decision then I just arbitrarily choose one side & try it out for size - it usually shows me which way to go. Basically its how I decided to stick with my marriage (by deciding not to & feeling bereft!) & how my sister decided not to stick with hers (by deciding not to & feeling releieved). Kris


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 00 - 05:06 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 02:27 PM

I must add that as an older woman, when a younger man is attracted to me, I could not think of a nicer complement.
In my experience, there seems to be an innocence in young men that has not been beaten down from years of failed relationships. Emotional rigormortis has not set in, and I find that very attractive.

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 12:59 PM

On the oither hand "Henery the Eighth" suggests it's not a bad idea,unless you're one of the first seven Henerys. But though there is a fair selection of songs warning about the unwisdom of marrying older men, or unduly younger women, there's not too much about older women. There's "I thank you ma'am, said Dan" - but I couldn't find that in the DT.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Abby Sale
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 11:30 AM

I'm staggered that so little reference has been made to the wealth of folk wisdom in the data base. There is nothing new about the age problem and the Folk have, of course, covered it well. Please refer to Driftwood's "Very Unfortunate Man" in DT and be duly warned and cautioned.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 11:15 AM

"Women live 5 years longer than men on average, so you'd think older wives would be the custom.

But don't go deciding in 10 years time you really want to have kids. "

It's just occurred to me - that's onlt relevant on the assumption that the original GUEST is a man, which we have no right to assume.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 10:27 AM

Women live 5 years longer than men on average, so you'd think older wives would be the custom.

But don't go deciding in 10 years time you really want to have kids.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,Uncle Fester
Date: 19 Feb 00 - 02:24 AM

It's okay unless it's really hairy or smells alot...

BBBBB Baby


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 09:04 PM

The Thread That Wouldn't Die--I think he has his answer!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: GUEST,Litle Joe Borg
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 08:53 PM

What Mike didn't say was that the older woman was in a coma in a nursing home!


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Feb 00 - 09:08 AM

Romantic relationships formed on a thread must be consummated in the physical presence of those participating in the thread.

fortunato


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Magpie
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 07:11 PM

Go for it GUEST!

And paddymac- good question! Personally, I think love is a wonderful thing, and things like age and gender should be viewed as minor details. (Of course, some relationships are more likely to result in babies) But, as stated earlier, real love is hard to find, and when you do find it, why should the age and gender of your chosen one matter to the rest of the world?

Magpie


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: sophocleese
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 05:51 PM

No don't! My bank balance might die a horrible painful death.


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Subject: RE: BS: Relationship with an older woman
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 05:21 PM

Max, here's an idea - put yourself up in the Mudcat auction...


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