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A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow

GUEST,Nick Dow 30 Jul 21 - 09:34 AM
RTim 30 Jul 21 - 11:03 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 02 Aug 21 - 09:21 AM
GUEST,Lin 02 Aug 21 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,Modette 02 Aug 21 - 12:55 PM
Manitas_at_home 02 Aug 21 - 01:54 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Aug 21 - 12:02 PM
Steve Gardham 04 Aug 21 - 04:14 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Aug 21 - 08:40 PM
The Sandman 05 Aug 21 - 08:20 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 05 Aug 21 - 09:54 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 07 Aug 21 - 02:06 AM
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GUEST,Nick Dow 08 Sep 21 - 02:36 AM
GUEST,matt milton 08 Sep 21 - 04:49 AM
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Subject: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 30 Jul 21 - 09:34 AM

ĎA Secret Streamí brings together over a hundred mostly unpublished folk songs and tunes, carols, including songs in the Anglo-Romany tongue ,collected from English Gypsies by Victorian and Edwardian collectors such as Cecil Sharp, Ella Leather, Lucy Broadwood, George Borrow and Ralph Vaughan Williams.
Selected by Nick Dow, the musical notation has been transcribed by Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne and there are
authoritative historical notes to each song supplied by Steve Gardham, along with detailed biographical material for
many of the singers.
ISBN9781838092894                         Price£15
The book will be available in September but you can order now at our secure website.
Cheques can be made payable to Francis Boutle Publishers,
272, Alexandra Park Road, London, N227BG
www.francisboutle.co.uk
info@francisboutle.co.uk


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: RTim
Date: 30 Jul 21 - 11:03 AM

Ordered ...as ordered.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Aug 21 - 09:21 AM

I am presenting a workshop on Zoom this Wednesday at 1pm, there is another active thread on Sidmouth Workshops which will give you the link.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Lin
Date: 02 Aug 21 - 10:53 AM

At 1:00 p.m. where in the world?
I am in California so need to know where/what country at
1 p.m.,so I can determine the time to tune in where I live.
Thank you.


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Subject: RE: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Modette
Date: 02 Aug 21 - 12:55 PM

Direct working link to Nick's book - Nick Dow - A Secret Stream.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 02 Aug 21 - 01:54 PM

Lin, its in the UK and we're in summer time at the moment.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Aug 21 - 12:02 PM

Also ordered - sadly came across the thread too late for the Zoom.

Mick


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Aug 21 - 04:14 PM

Mick
Have you got a copy of my earliest versions spreadsheet?


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Aug 21 - 08:40 PM

Steve

I have a copy from January - "Earliest spreadsheet SR Edit 1.xlsx"

Mick


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Aug 21 - 08:20 AM

hope it sells well


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 05 Aug 21 - 09:54 AM

I am presenting another workshop on Weds 25th at 4-30 pm, at Whitby Festival online.
I have just received some rather excellent paragraphs from Walter and Mary Lee, to introduce the book. Since she sends her good wishes to all readers, I have included them for you.

Our good friend Nick Dow is the author of this book, my husband and myself are of true Romany stock, and we are very pleased that Nick has compiled this book of songs, which were noted down in late Victorian and Edwardian times.
Some of these songs have been handed down through our families for generations! we would sing these songs spontaneously at any given time, when our families got together, and sure enough somebody would pull one of the old (long forgotten) songs out of the hat, and it would take us right back in time!
It is, surely, very good that these songs will be preserved for posterity, as it would be a great loss to our culture if they were forgotten.
In my family there were singers, musicians and dancers, some played fiddle, some guitar, some accordion and spoons. They would step dance on any piece of board the could find. They made their own entertainment, through very hard times, and good times too.
I hope those who read this book will gain some insight into our culture. Time and space donít allow me to elaborate further, however enjoy your read, and remember music brings us all together.
Walter and Mary Lee


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 07 Aug 21 - 02:06 AM

Alan Castle is arranging a book launch at Tenterden Festival. I am also at Edgeworth Festival on the Sunday. (That's a journey and a half!).
The Secret Stream will be available at both festivals.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 06:56 AM

Any updates on when in September this book will be despatched to those who have paid for it?

Francis Boutle seem reluctant to say.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 05:38 PM

Cohen and I have just finished some rewrites. Steve Gardham is still proofing. The overall typesetting has been done, but we are waiting for the second fair copy, to make sure there are no further mistakes, in grammar, punctuation, and spelling. We have had to reset some of the Gypsy Fiddle tune titles, without losing our Alphabetical order, which has taken a while, but we are aiming to be able to print by September 16th, all being well. It has been quite a headache getting it correct. I am going to offer MP3 files of the tunes, which need resorting into Song, Fiddle Tune, Carols and Romany song files. I then need to check them all against the originals. Not as big a job as it sounds. There are a few if's and but's however it's looking positive.
Nick


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: RTim
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 06:56 PM

Nick...You said something in your final Whitby Video for Secret Stream that I didn't quite understand or agree with.
When you quickly mentioned The New Forest and Gypsy Families from there, you corrected mentioned - The Dow family, but also said The Cole family and mentioned Goliath Cole.
To my knowledge, the Coles had Nothing to do with The New Forest, but lived in and around Oakley, ie. to the west of Basingstoke: and Goliath Cole was born in Baughurst.

Yes it is suggested that his father was born in Lymington; but then Albert Doe was possibly born in Wiltshire...even if living in Bartley, Hampshire when collected from - The Travellers were called Travellers for a reason...They Travelled.

A minor point maybe.....However, I am looking forward to getting the book.

Regards - Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: RTim
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 09:23 PM

Hi again - Sorry for my Typo in the 2nd line - Of course it should be "Doe" not "Dow"...mixing you up with the Gypsy Family....or my spelling is just very bad!

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 02:36 AM

Yes I was working from memory. I'll make some notes for the next workshop, which is Will and Pippa Noble's on Zoom, and then Tenterden in person followed by Edgeworth Festival on the Sunday (!!)
I've spent half my life with Gypsy folk so I don't mind being counted with them even if I am not related! A sort of compliment.
By the way Jane Cole was a tent dweller in the New Forest I believe. She was the matriarch of all the Cole Brothers and sisters. The whole thing was rather mixed up by Alice Gillington, who insisted that the Sebbage family were New Foresters, but Edith Sebbage was in service in Sussex. Like you say they travelled.


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 04:49 AM

Glad this thread has been revived, wasn't aware of this book, now at the top of my shopping list.

Nick, I noticed you are booked in for Orpington folk club in December. What's the best way to keep up to date with your gigs? Do you have a website?


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 07:27 AM

No, it's a long story involved with the sale of my business. I usually send out invites every gig. Maybe see you at Tenterden?
thetraditionbearer@hotmail.co.uk


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Harry Rivers
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 02:36 PM

How will we get access the MP3 files?

Harry


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 04:05 PM

When you buy the book, or receive it if you have paid in advance, drop me a line at the above Email address, and I'll send them via We Transfer. No charge, just a bonus for you.
Nick


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: Greenie
Date: 09 Sep 21 - 05:18 AM

Good to see this thread revived because I'd completely forgotten that I'd ordered the book.

Thanks, in advance, for the MP3s, Nick.

Greenie


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Subject: RE: ASecret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Sep 21 - 04:31 AM

Pip and Will Noble are hosting a Zoom on September 1th 3-30 to 6pm UK time. There will be a one hour presentation by yours truly on 'A Secret Stream' between 5 and 6pm. Contact Pip on her Facebook Page for details and a link.


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Subject: RE: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 21 - 03:18 AM

September 1th ?

Have I missed it?


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Subject: RE: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 11 Sep 21 - 04:21 AM

Bugger! Grovelling apologies September 18th! See you there.


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Subject: RE: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 14 Sep 21 - 04:03 AM

Nearly there. Just waiting for the final proofing.


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Subject: RE: A Secret Stream (Vol 1) New Book Nick Dow
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 15 Sep 21 - 01:28 PM

The book will be available at Tenterden and Edgeworth Festivals. If you've paid in advance the book will be posted next week.


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