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Apache recorded 60 years ago!

GUEST,Banjo flower 28 Jun 20 - 06:08 AM
Backwoodsman 28 Jun 20 - 06:20 AM
Bonzo3legs 28 Jun 20 - 09:07 AM
fat B****rd 28 Jun 20 - 09:19 AM
Bonzo3legs 28 Jun 20 - 09:42 AM
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GUEST,Banjo flower 28 Jun 20 - 04:33 PM
Backwoodsman 28 Jun 20 - 04:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST,Banjo flower
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 06:08 AM

One of the best live acts back then was Screaming Lord Sutch and the Savages but you had to see them live what a fantastic showman he was


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 06:20 AM

Saw them a few times at the Drill Hall, BF. Back in the days when he was carried on to the stage in a coffin.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 09:07 AM

I still have Sutch's first 6 singles. I first saw Sutch in September 1962 in I think The Assembly Hall in Barnet, with what I consider to be the best line up of the Savages which included a scrawny shy 17 year old Ritchie Blackmore on guitar. The following year The Savages included Geoff Mew on guitar and Freddie Fingers Lee on piano in the Territorial Army Hall in Barnet, a huge cavern of a place. By the next time I saw Sutch he had recruited most of Paul Dean & the Dreamers as Savages with original bass player Rick Brown - they were a good line up. Next was the 4 saxes Savages with Ritchie Blackmore once again who I saw at a cinema in Potters Bar, I never thought Sutch came over too well in a large venue. Final time in 60s was at a club in East London as Lord Caesar Sutch & the Roman Empire, Ritchie Blackmore had just left unfortunately and his replacement on guitar was not up to standard.

Never saw him again until early 1980s with Glen Stoner on guitar who was good but the others were forgettable.

Only Sutch could get away with performing on stage with a lavatory seat around his neck!!


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: fat B****rd
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 09:19 AM

I saw Sutch at The Café Dansant, Cleethorpes in 1962. Bernie 'Strawberry' Watson on guitar, Carlo Little on drums, Ricky Fenson on bass and Nicky Hopkins on piano. As a curtain operator I was at the side of the stage as Lord Sutch came off wearing a pair of false breasts (him, not me) I bumped into him and accidentally cracked his costume "you'll ruin all the bladdy gear!" he said. The next time he came he must have forgotten as he was quite friendly. This time he had a whole new band as the original Savages had gone off to play with Cyril Davies.
Happy days.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 09:42 AM

Ah yes, I remember seeing Cyril Davies in London but his Savages line up had been changed, I think they fell out with him. Andy Wren was on piano when I saw the first Blackmore line up.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 10:02 AM

Neil Christian & the Crusaders was another band on the same circuit as Sutch, which often included ex Savages or musicians who became Savages at one time or another. The only time I saw them had Jimmy Page on guitar!


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST,Banjo flower
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 04:33 PM

Just googled Cafe Dansant Cleethorpes
Can't remember it but went to quite a few festivals and events at the Winter Gardens over the years

Bwm did you mean the Drill hall Scunthorpe or the Drill Hall Lincoln?


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 04:53 PM

Neither! The one between those two.

I saw the Rolling Stones at Lincoln Drill Hall on New Year’s Eve, 1963 - stood front row dead centre, Jagger strutted his stuff about six feet in front of me. And I played in the support band for the Big Three there around that time. Never played Scunny Drill Hall, but I’ve played at The Baths Hall a few times, as well as the Café Dansante in Cleethorpes, and pretty much every club in Grimsby!

It’s been a grand life!

I’ll try to get to the Malt Shovel again when things are back to normal...


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST,Banjo flower
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 05:59 PM

You've got me baffled now BWM "the one in between? Is there a drill hall in Gainsborough?
Don't know whats happening with the Malt Shovel session at the moment but it would be great to see you again
Gerry


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 09:31 PM

There is indeed, Gerry! Terry Sampson used to run Saturday night dances at all three venues - all the top bands.

I’ll wait for an email about the Malt Shovel sessions - Sunday’s not a great night for me but it would be good to get out and have a play/sing.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 01:53 AM

It was the Union Hall in Barnet that housed band nights, where I first saw Sutch and others, not the Assembly Hall, which must have been somewhere else.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 03:29 AM

But was it a folk club? ;-)


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST,Banjo flower
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 05:30 AM

There was always loads of folks there Dave


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST,Banjo flower
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 05:50 AM

Try going to the Mother of all Bullsh*t thread then


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 06:06 AM

Trad Jazz night was Tuesdays for Barnet Jazz Club there - deafening banjo pumping trad !!


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 12:05 PM

Meanwhile, early 1960s pop and beat music still inspires far more serious musicians
than even the good acoustic folk music ever will...


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 12:22 PM

Mods - sorry, i couldn't resist...

Maybe I should start a new thread

"So, how many self-identifying folkies actually enjoy music...???"


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 12:45 PM

btw.. I'm not having a dig at any of my mudcat folkie mates,
WE enjoy good music, irrespective of genre or vintage...


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 12:52 PM

Or how it's performed!


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 01:09 PM

Over the years I've had my 'Joe Meek Produced' bands and solo artists phases..

I'm the only person I know who likes Heinz Burt...


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 02:44 PM

thats 30


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 01:51 PM

Who remembers Tony Rivers & the Castaways - absolutely brilliant band!!


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: fat B****rd
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 03:05 PM

And in keeping with the 'sort of' Shadows theme Mr. Rivers sang back up with Cliff Richard for many years. And he's from Shildon.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 03:21 PM

For a few months in the early 80s when I was a student,
my landlady was the ex-wife of one of Cliff Richard's live tour bass players..

I sneaked a look at his bass guitars once,
when he left them in the house overnight.
Amazing top quality session musician's instruments...

One of them might have been the bass guitar,
he played on the recording session of the theme for Postman Pat...


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 05:42 PM

I've been trying to remember 60s groups whose guitarists used a DeArmond volume/tone pedal the ones that came to mind were The Hunters, Neil Christian & the Crusaders (Jimmy Page) and Tony Rivers & the Casterways.


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Subject: RE: Apache recorded 60 years ago!
From: Captain Swing
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 06:27 PM

Anyone remember this version?

Apache Dropout - Edgar Broughton Band

I'll get me coat!


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