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Tim Chesterton 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM
Noreen 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM
Joe Offer 19 Oct 20 - 11:46 AM
Noreen 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM
Noreen 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM
Joe Offer 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM
Richard Mellish 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM
GerryM 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM
Joe Offer 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM
Felipa 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM
Joe Offer 14 Oct 20 - 03:46 PM
Joe Offer 14 Oct 20 - 03:00 PM
SPB-Cooperator 14 Oct 20 - 01:37 PM
Tattie Bogle 13 Oct 20 - 06:40 PM
Felipa 13 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM
Mrrzy 12 Oct 20 - 07:40 PM
Mrrzy 12 Oct 20 - 06:26 PM
GUEST,Noreen 12 Oct 20 - 05:28 PM
pattyClink 12 Oct 20 - 11:35 AM
Mrrzy 12 Oct 20 - 09:14 AM
Joe Offer 05 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM
Sarah the flute 04 Oct 20 - 11:58 AM
GerryM 04 Oct 20 - 05:09 AM
Joe Offer 03 Oct 20 - 04:46 PM
Tattie Bogle 01 Oct 20 - 07:52 PM
SPB-Cooperator 01 Oct 20 - 06:07 PM
Mr Happy 28 Sep 20 - 08:28 PM
Joe Offer 28 Sep 20 - 08:07 PM
Mrrzy 28 Sep 20 - 08:03 PM
leeneia 28 Sep 20 - 07:07 PM
mg 28 Sep 20 - 04:58 PM
Mrrzy 28 Sep 20 - 11:04 AM
Joe Offer 27 Sep 20 - 10:10 PM
Noreen 26 Sep 20 - 07:06 PM
Joe Offer 26 Sep 20 - 11:21 AM
Joe Offer 22 Sep 20 - 12:55 PM
Noreen 22 Sep 20 - 06:30 AM
Joe Offer 21 Sep 20 - 12:43 PM
Joe Offer 21 Sep 20 - 07:29 AM
Mrrzy 20 Sep 20 - 02:52 PM
Joe Offer 20 Sep 20 - 03:14 AM
leeneia 15 Sep 20 - 12:22 PM
Noreen 15 Sep 20 - 04:00 AM
leeneia 14 Sep 20 - 07:10 PM
Richard Mellish 14 Sep 20 - 06:00 AM
GerryM 14 Sep 20 - 05:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM

Bit of shameless self-promotion here:

Thanks to those who were saying nice things about my own original tune for 'Cold Blow and the Rainy Night' at the singaround today.

If you like it, it's on my CD 'Folk Songs and Renovations.' You can get the single track here.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM

Thirty-four of us in here now. A great night is being had by all!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 11:46 AM

Here's today's announcement. Hope you can join us.

Joe Offer is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.


Topic: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround
Time: Oct 19, 2020 12:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM

Ah no, that was not a puzzled response, it was meant to be a wry smile!

: )


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM

Well, I screwed that up, as Bev Praver gently told me. The discrepancy in time changes happens on Monday, October 26. And on THAT day, the Singaround will start at 1 PM Pacific Time and 4 PM Eastern, and 8 PM London time.

But this coming Monday is October 19, and it will be at the usual times.

Sorry for the confusion.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM

> Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Normally it's eight hours, but not in the brief period when one is on daylight saving and the other isn't.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM

Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM

Because we have a number of singers in the UK who come in late, I'm going to schedule the Singaround according to London time this coming Monday. So the Singaround will start as usual at 8 PM London time, but at 1 PM Los Angeles Time and 4 PM New York time.
I'll be sending out the email in a few minutes.
See you Monday.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM

Joe, Ireland follows Greenwich time, but in France etc. it is an hour different and if they have "summer time" ("daylight savings time" in US). There was talk of the E.U. doing away with seasonal time changes for member states in future.

re themes, I suggested having occasional theme nights,not weekly and that the theme would not be obligatory. I did enjoy the themed sessions at the virtual Getaway. There the theme was pretty much obligatory but in some cases very widely interpreted.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:46 PM

I just got an email from Pelagie, asking what time we'll be starting this coming Monday. The UK goes to standard time this Sunday, 25 October. I suppose the same applies to Ireland and the rest of the EU. Am I correct?

The US goes to standard time on Sunday, November 1.

The math confounds me here. This coming Monday, if we start the singaround at 8 PM London time (which is what I'm inclined to do), what time will it be in California?

-Joe, puzzled-




It appears from the converter below that on October 26, it will be 8 PM London time and 1 PM California time.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20201026T200000&p1=136&p2=4962


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:00 PM

Hi, Felipa

I go to another weekly singaround that has themes. It can be nice, bu I'm not inclined to require it for the Mudcat Singaround. I see singers often inspire each other and carry a theme along, and I think I prefer that sort of spontaneity.
Cheers!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 01:37 PM

This Monday will be my last in the folk 'wilderness' this time it will be me in transit arriving at Gatwick about 10:30 pm London time, then 2-3 hours to get home.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 06:40 PM

We had quite a lot of autumnal/seasonal/October songs on our local Zoom session tonight, and later this month will be Hallowe'en!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 13 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM

I suggest it would be nice to sometimes have a theme for the night. It wouldn't be obligatory; but if people are invited in advance to sing a song relating to a given topic, I expect many of the singers would oblige.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 07:40 PM

Oh and thanks for the filters! I had to re-download Zoom but now I can have a beret.
Oh, wait, I already do. Moustache, then!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 06:26 PM

I am not making it back but luvs! Next week, Oscar Brand returns.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 05:28 PM

Refresh... we're still going strong.
Great songs and singing.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 11:35 AM

Yes we are, chk yr messages I'm forwarding Joe's email.

Can't make it myself today, it's a travel day as Mondays often are.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Oct 20 - 09:14 AM

Refresh - we are on today, right?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

We'll miss you, Gerry. The Getaway is wonderful, and so many of our regular Singaround singers found their way to the Getaway. Many are on the tech staff, or are leading workshops. I had so much fun leading the dogs workshop with Dawn Berg (she was the adult in the room).
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 11:58 AM

Hoping to go to the dogs with you later Joe. Just doing the last session at Virtual Tenterden Festival first but that finishes at 9.30pm so should be with you soon after!!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 05:09 AM

Well, there goes my social life for the week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Cancelled Monday Oct 5
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 04:46 PM

I'm Zoom-attending the annual Getaway of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington this weekend, and I realize that a good half of our regular Mudcat Singaround singers are attending, too. Rather than conflict with the last day of the Getaway, we've decided to cancel Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround. See you next week, Monday, October 12.

You can join us at the Getaway. It's a wonderful gathering, and Mudcatters have been attending since 1999. Register here:


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 07:52 PM

Good luck and safe encounters in setting up any new gigs!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 06:07 PM

Will be in exile to landlocked Cz Republic from tomorrow. Hope, all being well, to be back on 26th October.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:28 PM

Many thanks to Joe Offer & rest of gang on tonight's show - very entertaining diversion away from all the doom, gloom & worst of all ennui!

See y'all next time!

Mr H


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:07 PM

We missed YOU, Mrrzy. You are a wonderful part of our community. And yes, it was a wonderful gathering.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:03 PM

What'd I miss?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 07:07 PM

Thanks for being hosts, Joe and Noreen. I enjoyed today's pleasant singaround. (September 28th.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: mg
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:58 PM

it is not clicking or letting me copy


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 11:04 AM

I may be late to the Singaround this week, roadtripping out for lunch. I can listen on the way back, though!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 10:10 PM

Yeah, Noreen, I thought I heard there was a Welsh melody used for "Miner's Lifeguard," but I can't find it. My memory sometimes gets scrambled.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 07:06 PM

Re: the Miners' Lifeguard Joe, those three versions (great stuff!) were of the same tune, as is this one sung by the Wilsons.
Apparently this song shares a melody with the traditional Appalachian song "Life's Railroad to Heaven."


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 11:21 AM

Invitations for Monday have been emailed. If you didn't get one and would like to be on our email list, contact me at joe@mudcat.org.

Hope to sing with you Monday!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 12:55 PM

Hi, Noreen - we missed you, but we muddled through. I think we had a total of 44 people yesterday.
Here's the seminal US recording of "Miner's Lifeguard," by Pete Seeger and the Almanac Singers:


Here's an English recording by Bob Fox and Benny Graham, which uses the same melody:

Here's a great choral performance by Brian Connick and Cor Meibion Onllwyn (Onllwyn Male Voice Choir):


Maybe I'm mistaken and maybe the US and UK use the same melody for this song.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 06:30 AM

Sorry I missed it Joe, I’d be interested in your tune to the miner’s lifeguard. Hope all went well in my absence!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 12:43 PM

I sang "Miner's Lifeguard" and "Life's Railway to Heaven," which both use the same melody in the US. I understand that "Miner's Lifeguard" is sung to a different melody in Great Britain. I'd sure like to hear that different melody.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 07:29 AM

RBG and Scalia were notorious opera fans. Don't know that she spent much time on folk. See the RBG movie. The part on opera was delightful.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 02:52 PM

What was RBG's fave folk song?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 03:14 AM

I just sent out the emails with this week's link. If you didn't get one and would like to attend, email me, joe@mudcat.org

Hope to sing with you soon.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 12:22 PM

Thank you for the information, Noreen. Apparently my sound settings are acceptable.

Zoom seemed a little peculiar on Monday - people's pictures popped up and then disappeared, even though they were not singing at the time, and twice it tried to sign out of the session without my asking it to.
But I suppose Zoom's system is under a lot of pressure now.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 04:00 AM

Your listening volume has no effect on what goes out, leeneia.
There are various settings you can adjust to make your sound the best it can be- if you join the session early next time (before we start singing) you can try adjusting settings and get feedback on what works best.

Another lovely session last night, thanks all!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 07:10 PM

It was another enjoyable session. Thanks to the organizers.

I had a doctor's appt beforehand, and while I was waiting, I sang my song to warm up my voice. One might as well make use of the time.

By the way, I had to visit the ER mid-week, and while the DH and I waited in our room, we heard people laughing in the hall several times. This is not the view of an ER that we get from the media. (I came out okay.)

I have a question: during the Singaround, does the volume I set on the sliding bar of my own computer affect the volume at which my song goes out, or does Zoom make sure my volume is good?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 06:00 AM

I agree with Felipa about the variable quality/expertise/whatever you prefer to call it, but the same probably applies to most online singarounds, as indeed it does to in-person sessions when those are possible. If a session is to be recorded, anyone who wishes should be able to have the recording paused, whether because they feel that they're not very good or for any other reason (or no reason at all). That is how it works for Sharp's singarounds; but in practice I think few if any do request a pause.

But anyway Joe has sounded out participants for the Mudcat one so I won't pursue it beyond this post.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: GerryM
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 05:33 AM

If you don't join at the start, then you can only see and save the chat from the time you join (unless I'm missing some clever dodge). Joining at 7:30am Sydney time, I get to save roughly the second half of the chat.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Sep 20 - 11:39 PM

The chat has almost all the lyrics to all the songs that were sung. I could post them if there's an interest, but it's easy to save the chat yourself. I've asked about recording the session, but too many people were reluctant about that.
Anybody who attends can save the chat to their own computer.
-Joe-

I sent emails with Monday's URL out on Saturday. If you didn't get an invitation and would like to attend, email me.

joe@mudcat.org


(if you'd like copies of the chat from previous sessions, email me)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 09 Sep 20 - 12:59 PM

I had already thought about how some Zoom events are also on youtube, and I concluded that it was a good thing that the Mudcat singaround isn't ... the quality - or should I say expertise - is very variable, which doesn't matter when we are a circle of friends but could be uncomfortable if we are exposed to anybody and everybody on line. Much as it would interest me to hear myself later, on the whole I prefer the privacy of an ephemeral session.

What I would like to have is a Mudcat thread run by the moderators, which would give a list each week of which songs were sung that Monday.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 10:29 AM

Some Zoom sessions are recorded and made available subsequently through YouTube or otherwise. Is this a possibility for the Mudcat Singaround? A few singers might want the recording paused for their bits, but I think most of us would be OK about being recorded, and it would give everyone the chance to catch up on whatever we've missed -- if we can find the time, of course.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 09:27 AM

I was about to ask what'd I miss?


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