Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays

Subject: Mudcat online singaround?
From: GUEST,Chris Lamb
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 06:01 AM

Link posted Mondays for the week's Mudcat Worldwide Song Circle

Topic: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - open for cocktails and conversation half an hour earlier Time:Monday 12:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
8 PM London, 3 PM New York, Noon Los Angeles, 5 AM Tuesday in Sydney.

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Back in March, on a thread that's now closed, Joe Offer said: "And I think it would be really nice if we could have a weekly Mudcat singaround online."
Was this suggestion taken up? It would be great to put a face and a voice to some of the regular Mudcatters and to hear them sing, on Zoom, perhaps. I'd love to hear Jim Carroll sing again, for example, as I haven't heard him or Pat McKenzie sing since Critics Group days.

The many singarounds that have sprung up since lockdown started have brought together some fine singers from across the seas and enabled us to hear those we would never have been able to listen to in normal times.
Can the Mudcat community respond to this opportunity?

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM

Now there's an idea!

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 02:06 PM

Go for it!

Regards

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 03:53 PM

That sounds good to me
Nothing much else on a Monday and 9pm start is good

Sarah

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 07:31 PM

I’m up for it too, 9pm Mondays is good for me, and Zoom works well.

Are you up for organising it Joe? ??

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 08:38 PM

Okey-dokey. I think we have a minyan. Well, it's supposed to be 10 adult, circumcised males, but we'll make do with what we've got.

Monday at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and 5 AM in Sydney.

I'll host. I'll post the link to the Zoom session here in this thread just one hour before we begin, and I'll open hp half an hour early at 8:30 PM for cocktails and conversation. There will be a waiting room, and I reserve the right to reject people I don't recognize - so please use your Mudcat names. Sorry.

This should be fun!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM

When you enter Zoom, you will usually be give the opportunity to give the name you want to be known by for the session. If you have not used Zoom since June 1, you may be asked to update to the new, encrypted Version 5 of Zoom. It seems to be quite stable, so just OK the download and there you go - good reason to show up early, though.

I'm looking forward to this.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 12:35 AM

I will post the link in this thread Monday, an hour before the gathering. I will also send links by personal message Sunday, to members who post in this thread. If you've pasted anything above, you'll get a pm from me Sunday. Sorry, I can't send personal messages to Guests, so you'll have to look here Monday for the link.
I will change the meeting ID every week for security purposes.
I can't handle anything that comes in Monday, because I'm teaching a Class Mondays and have just half an hour free after the class.
Looking forward to seeing you Monday.
Joe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 02:45 PM

Yes that’s right Amergin, for security reasons the new link is only put up about an hour before the start each week, so less likely to attract gatecrashers.

I think it’s even better than the old HearMe (which I remember very fondly) because we can see each other too!
Joe Offer has of course gone another step further and often searches for and adds info and words for the song being sung, in the chat box in real time... which sets this Mudcat Singaround apart from all others I’ve been involved with.

Mudcat is once again in the vanguard of new ideas!
(I wonder whether the wonderful Max might join us one week?!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM

The link people have posted here gives the first-time user the opportunity to download the software even if they load it before or during the event.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:19 AM

This thread is getting pretty long, but I think I'd like to preserve it as the go-to place for the singaround.
Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing), but I'll probably move most messages over two weeks old to our overflow thread (click).

I'm having the best time at this Monday singaround. My big black dog Madeleine loves it, too, and she often comes into my office to listen while we're singing.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:18 AM

Is Lawson alluding to Adam Lindsay Gordon's romance with Jane Bridges throughout the poem?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 05:31 AM

SPB, the reference to Gordon in the 4th stanza is, indeed, to the poet Adam Lindsay Gordon, but the interpretation I've heard is that the poem has more to do with Lawson's relationship with Hannah Thorburn. She died just six weeks before Lawson & his wife, Bertha, arrived back in Australia from two years in England.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:49 AM

Gerry and all who are just discovering Mudcat: You need to join (write to [e-mail]). Guests are welcome to search and use the site, but membership does offer a few extra perks. And by all means, poke around and find the lyrics we already have here. It'll save you a little time reposting them. For example, Gerry, Lawson's poem Do You Think I Do Not Know is an example already in the DT. You are liable to find lyrics there you want to start using!

Good to see all of the new names and faces yesterday.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Today!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 07:59 AM

Gerry, I also found the thread discussing Tumba-bloody-rumba and posted a link back to your post here, but putting the lyrics there would be helpful.

For newcomers to Mudcat, we have the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" for keywords and song titles. Use as few words as you think will bring up results and if it doesn't work the first time Max added a supersearch that hoovers up stuff all over Mudcat and the Internet.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:45 PM

If there are songs posted here, they will eventually be moved to a thread for that particular song. So, free to post lyrics here, and I'll move them in good time.
We don't currently have a way of correcting the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT), and maybe it's a good idea to leave it as Dick Greenhaus left it when he died.
I am gradually trying to ensure that there is a thread to cover every song or family of songs in the DT. The best place to look for correct lyrics is in the threads, not in the DT. If the lyrics in a thread have proper title, songwriter, and source information, you can be reasonably sure they're correct. If the title is allcaps and bold and large, that means it has been reviewed for correctness.

-Joe-

I will use this thread as the permanent notification thread for the singaround. As messages get out of date, I'll move them to the overflow thread or to song threads.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 Aug 20 - 03:51 AM

Joe, the lyrics you posted in chat for The Swaggies Have All Waltzed Matilda Away are fine, with just two corrections. In the last verse, "Coolies" should be "Koori". Koori is the name the Aboriginal people of New South Wales use to describe themselves. And the fellow who wrote the song was Alistair Hulett, with a double t at the end. Thanks again for putting the show on.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Oct 20 - 12:45 AM

A very spooky day of songs. Lots of good singing, some of it moderately scary. My house generator lasted all day on a 6-gallon tank of gas, and the mains power finally came on as our singaround was ending.
One woman from the San Francisco Bay area sang a "Broken Token" song. When she introduced the song, she said it was written by Vikki Appleton Fielden. I started to introduce Vikki to the singer, but Vikki shushed me. So, we all held our tongues while the singer sang Vikki's song - and we all got a good laugh out of it afterwards. The woman sang very well, and Vikki was thrilled to have somebody sing her song.
Thank you all for a wonderful gathering.
Back to the usual times for next week's gathering. This daylight savings discrepancy lasts only one week, and then the US and UK are back in sync again.

-Joe-

We missed you, Casey. Hope the electric power is back on at your wilderness home. Thanks to Noreen for doing a great job of hosting, and to Dawn for assisting.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 12:28 PM

That's great Gerry thanks! So many great songs I missed by leaving early.
Do you remember who sang Song for Vic? Not heard that for too long.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 03:20 PM

The breeches/petticoat swap is sung after the 4th verse in the live rendition.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 04:14 PM

Moorley Man, Monique, thanks for filling in some gaps. The things I miss by insisting on getting dressed and having some breakfast before joining the festivities!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:27 PM

We're glad you come in clothing, Gerry... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 07:42 AM

I’ve not been logging the songs I do on Mudcat Zoom. On 16th I did a poem “November” by Thomas Hood.which is listed as “No Sun, no moon”

Nice to see that someone else sang “More hills to climb”, it’s a great song that I have done previously on Mudcat Zoom.

On another note, “Andy’s gone with cattle” sounds interesting. If that’s a parody, anyone have the lyrics to share?
Brad.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 08:01 AM

gerry, for your list, the titles of the two songs I did were:

Somebody Would Shout Out Shop   (Weston & Lee - 1915), and
The Gallant Shopping (Lyrics S P Belsey - 1986, Tune Trad)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:29 PM

Thanks, SPB. Bradfordian, Andy's Gone with Cattle is not a parody, it's a poem written by the Australian poet Henry Lawson in 1888, set to a tune collected by John Manifold.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:34 PM

The lyrics to Andy's Gone with Cattle are in the Digital Tradition. Maybe /mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=286 will get you there.

There are a couple of mondegreens in the DT version. "cheat" should be "cheek", and "tomorrow" should be "torrents".

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 06:32 PM

Try this: Andy’s Gone With Cattle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 07:00 PM

Emails have been sent out - Saturday, I think. If you'd like an advance link by email, contact me.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 04:45 PM

30 people here now, but it's been up to 49. Come join us. The singing is wonderful.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 10:55 PM

We got up to #49 today, Joe, just an unusual number of late (but very welcome!) arrivals.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:53 PM

andys gone with cattle sounds like this,ignore the tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5w75f_Lz_A&list=UU-GtPNIEDLICv5yKnirJAPg&index=31

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 05:41 PM

Waddon Pete has a special talent for marking events, as evidenced by his In Memoriam Permathread. He tells me our singaroud on November 30 will be our 25th singaround. I had no idea we had done so many. Every one of them has been delightful - and almost all of them have lasted 5 hours!
Here's hoping we will have many more, even after we're able to get together in person to sing.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 05:53 PM

Just as wonderful as the singing was the actual conversation afterward. Knowledgeable, cheerful people, so polite that they didn't have to mute. %^)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 26 Nov 20 - 10:40 AM

Well done Gerry. I wonder if singers could make an effort to start off by naming their song. I don't get much out of a long rambling intro if I don't know what song they are talking about. And Gerry's not the only one taking notes, lots of us are collectors wanting to add to our bag .

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 03:48 PM

One of the great mysteries to be unveiled every week, is the location of pattyClink. One week, she was in Arkansas. Last week was Arizona. Where next? She's welcome to park her motor home in Joe Offer's driveway in Applegate in the Sierra Foothills of California.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 05:16 PM

the hawk and the crow should be,, two strings to a bow, from kevin mitchell

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 27 Nov 20 - 06:01 PM

Thanks, Sandman. At https://afolksongaweek.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/week-261-the-hawk-and-the-crow/ it's called The Hawk and the Crow, but it says

"I learned this from one of my absolute favourite singers, Kevin Mitchell, via his 1977 Topic LP Free and Easy. Kevin calls it ‘Two Strings on a Bow’, and he learned it from Anne Brolly of Dungiven, County Derry. The LP notes say

American singers call this song The Bird’s Courtship or The Leather Winged Bat."

So evidently this is a song of many titles.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 10:46 AM

Joe O, I wish I had known there was a friendly face in Applegate in 2018! Tried towing a trailer over the Donner Pass on a 95 degree day. Made it to Emigrant Pass before boiling over. Had to be towed all the way back down to Auburn. Bad couple of days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 29 Nov 20 - 11:31 AM

pattyClink if you are working backward through the alphabet, does that mean you will be in Alaska on Monday and Alabama the following week?   After that, do you go forward alphabetically, or revert to Wyoming?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: pattyClink
Date: 29 Nov 20 - 06:55 PM

SPB, that is a brilliant plan! Alas, I have no plan.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Nov 20 - 04:07 PM

62 total today. And the singing is lovely.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 08:29 PM

Got sucked into a John Wayne marathon... Remember the big staged saloon fight between Kirk Douglas and John Wayne in War Wagon? Anyway the piano player is frantically plinking to keep the crowd happy and *what* he was plinking, I noticed, was ...

...The Clouds Gwine Roll Away, which I had just sung!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 06:28 AM

Joe, shouldn't the title be more key of arrrrr - which fits in more with folk stereotyping   ;)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 05:03 PM

No, SPB-Cooperator - that's the version they played on pirate radio!
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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:22 AM

Hey I have usually gotten the link by now? Oh and good morning.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 11:39 AM

Mrzzy, you're posting at 6:22 AM my time, and you're impatient? Didn't you get my email?

We hads an even fifty participants today. Another wonderful gathering.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 11:54 AM

I did not get the email, I thought that was what I said, sorry Joe!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 06:19 AM

I was 5th and sang an Occitan carol, Nadal tindaire (Jingling Christmas). Lyrics, translation, mp3, midi and sheet music at the link.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 08:23 AM

As far as I remember, that is the right title - it is what I have always called it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 09 Dec 20 - 05:23 PM

Thanks for the information! Noreen was #1, didn't she sing? Wasn't there a Jody at #4? I did include Waddon Pete, he was #8 (there was no #7) and he sang the Sussex Drinking Song.