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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 07:22 PM

The books are being delivered now, and we are getting some excellent feedback. If you have any comments on the book please feel free share them with us here.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 03:11 PM

Please forward on any feedback you get, Nick. Not got mine yet. Who's the courier?


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 07:33 PM

I think Clive is sending you three. The Courier was Hermes.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 23 Jun 20 - 05:35 AM

My two copies arrived yesterday, one for me and one that I re-posted to a friend for his birthday. But, what with one thing and another (including a chunk of this morning sorting out the trouble that I had with my speakers for yesterday's Mudcat Singaround) I haven't had a chance to look yet.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM

I have now got MIDI files for all the books (i.e. everything except 'Marrowbones') Thanks to Graham Pratt. I'm busy converting them to Mp3, ostensibly for foreign customers, but I can download them to anybody who wants them,(free) Email is posted above. As things stand they are in Zip and W7 (whatever that is) I'll get to converting them when time allows.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 07:28 AM

Liz the Squeak here - Manitas gave me a copy as a present, and it is bloody marvellous!

Such a great selection of songs, and very well presented; clear, sensible and sure to become a classic!

LTS


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Vic Smith
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 08:15 AM

My copy has just dropped through the letter-box. At first glance, it looks magnificent. I had already received the MIDI .mp3s of the tunes from Nick Dow so a big 'thank you' to him for those.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 10:19 AM

I have added to my Soundcloud site again and created a Playlist of songs that are in "Southern Songster."    There are currently 3 songs there and I may add a few more, particularly Chanties, in the next few days....I hope these compliment the book and makes it more enjoyable.....

Tim Radford

https://soundcloud.com/tim-radford/sets/southern-songster-songs


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 11:21 AM

Brilliant Tim and thank you. Here's Cohen singing another song from the book. You can now buy the book from the Grannies Attic Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOnURInT_R8


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 05:11 AM

Just a quick update, the first run of the book is nearly sold out.
I have a few (address above) Cohen has about ten (G/Attic website) and there maybe a few with the publisher (above)
Other than that it's pre orders for the next run in July/August.
What can we say other than THANK YOU to you all.
Nick and the team.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Save our sausages
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 10:27 AM

Hope it sells well.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 06:57 AM

Got my copy too. Thank you very much for this, Nick, Steve, Cohen ant Tim!


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 07:56 AM

Mine very likely becalmed at Barnsley Post Office due an outbreak of Covid 19 among the posties ~ oh hum

Ray


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 09:05 AM

Let me know if you don't get it by Wednesday I'll chase it up or send you another.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 09:17 AM

Ray
You're not on your own. I haven't even got my physical copy yet! I think mine has also fallen victim to Hermes being distracted.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 09:39 AM

I found only two typos yet ;-)


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 10:36 AM

And Reinhard....I hope you won't mind me pointing out that you have the wrong book jacket illustration on your index for the book....this shows the "Southern Harvest" rather than the new "Souther Songster" cover (that I am told is a Thrush...), but it is the correct cover in your Bibliography..

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 11:37 AM

Oops, fixed. copy&paste¬changeenough-error. Thanks for telling me.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 03:15 PM

Rh
We have opportunity for some corrections to the next run. Please point out any typos I've missed as I did the proofing. Either here or email me or PM me.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 03:20 AM

Spelling; Introduction; Bottom of P5; "may have FARED better"

I'm singing Rio Grande with my grand-daughter, who sings "We're bound for the Rio Grandma" with great delight. And she's only three.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 04:07 AM

Lovely!


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 05:54 AM

Love it, Hy!


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 07:13 AM

Here is a link to 'Mainly Norfolk' which gives a list of songs and links to Roud No.s and also links to Cohen singing songs from the book. Excellent! Many thanks.

https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/books/southernsongster.html


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 03:26 PM

Reinhard has also sent me a few typos to alter for next run. I might also add that many of my notes in the book on recently recorded versions came from his Mainly Norfolk website and perhaps we could acknowledge that in the next run. Thanks, R!


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 03:22 PM

Here is the Musical Traditions Magazine review of the book. If you are not familiar with the site you will be pleasantly surprised and informed. There are many hours of interesting browsing.
http://mustrad.org.uk/reviews/southern.htm


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 04:01 PM

May i wish you all the best with the book, hope it sells well.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 07:16 PM

Thanks Dick.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 12:03 PM

Just to advise my copy has now arrived today July 4th 2020

Thanks

Ray


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 03:45 PM

Sorry you had to wait so long. Please let us know your thoughts on the book.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 03:05 AM

I will

Ray


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 07:53 AM

Southern Songster ~ review
English folk songs from the Hammond and Gardiner Manuscripts
ISBN 978 1 8380928 01
As the title says a South of England collection of over 100 songs from Hampshire and Dorset selected by Nick Dow with musical notation by Cohen Braithwaite – Kilcoyne.
Steve Gardham provides 54 pages of song notes on many songs that I have never heard of ~ titles like “The three worms” and “The tinker’s old budget”. Although there are some other popular traditional songs like “Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy” and “Barbara Allen”
Yes times have changed but the folk song collectors of the time would have encountered and collected songs that were current at the time. Many of these songs have entered into the folk repertoire of floor singer s and professionals alike. The Southern Songster is a welcome addition for enthusiasts old and young to get their teeth into, so to speak.
Steve also supplies the Roud index numbers and makes reference to audio sources available on CD and online with references to notes and tunes .Where possible CDs where songs have been recorded by traditional and current younger folk artists such as Brian Peters, Bella Hardy, Lucy Ward, Eliza Carthy and Bryony Griffith are given.
I was drawn to “Yorkshire Park”, which I know as “Sheffield Park” and “Cruel Mother” both of which are on the Yorkshire Garland website of course with audios of Frank Hinchliffe and Jim Eldon, respectively.
The addition of ten shanties is also welcome as the main shanty “bibles” have been hard to locate and festivals and folk gatherings do tend to like full blown shanties with “big” choruses!
Ray Padgett July 6th 2020


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 06:59 PM

Thanks for that Ray. I'll pass it on to all concerned.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Rumncoke
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 10:45 PM

I have spent time during the lockdown trying to learn to read music - again - and having got somewhere with it, I have spent a bit on books with tunes in - luckily my income was not entirely lost.
I have left it a bit late in life to get to grips with the dots - but it just goes to show, you can teach an old dog new tricks.
I have even been writing a few new verses where I felt there was a need for explanation or variation.
Never did really go for the died for love or man walks away sniggering endings, so I have devised a few which I find more satisfactory.
I am going to need another bookcase before long though.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 07 Jul 20 - 06:48 AM

Editing and rewriting is actively encouraged in Southern Songster. The more versions of the songs that are produced the better. Time will tell which ones survive.
Martin Carthy encouraged me to read music and sing from the page. It is very useful. When you find the root note, and work out the scale and accidentals, it's easier than you think.
Rumncoke you are welcome to the Mp3 files of the tunes if it will help your studies. My Email is as above.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 07:33 AM

Here is a bit of feedback about the book. There will be a second run with corrections by the end of July, pre orders are being taken now.

It is so important that all of our wonderful traditional songs are collected and registered in book form for us and for future generations to absorb and enjoy. Southern Songster does this in the best possible manner. Martyn Wyndham-Read


Carefully-edited genuine traditional songs - words, music and detailed historical notes - a feast for the singer and scholar. Steve Roud

A fine continuation of a great series of new editions. Rod Stradling

‘A splendid achievement’ Alan Bearman Sidmouth Folk Week


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Jul 20 - 07:41 PM

'The Wanton Seed', 'The Foggy Dew', 'The Constant Lovers', (i.e. Southern Harvest) AND 'Southern Songster', in PDF form, and all the song tunes supplied in MP3 form! This is now available worldwide for £30 for the lot. Contact Clive Boutle on the Francis Boutle website, or Nick Dow nickdow67@gmail.com for details.
A great deal if you have trouble reading music notation, and your original 1970's copies are disintegrating. Sorry no 'Marrowbones', not our copyright.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 06:08 AM

As soon as EFDSS are back up and running I will ascertain what the current state of play is with 'Marrow Bones'. If they have none left I will request that Clive be allowed to republish if he is willing.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 06:16 AM

Nick ,received my copy thanks


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 12 Jul 20 - 10:17 AM

Enjoy.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 01:48 PM

Confirmed a new deal today for 'Wanton Seed' and 'Southern Harvest' only, in PDF form with Mp3 tunes --£20-00 by WeTransfer contact nickdow67@gmail.com for details.


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Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM

The re-print is being completed today. Advanced copies will be honoured first, then it will be available from the Francis Boutle website Grannies Attic website or myself on nickdow67@gmail.com


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