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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 08:28 AM

Based on my experience with 12,000 hypnosis subjects I am certain people are more than predisposed to a 'lie' than most people would expect. An evolutionary adaptation could be the weakest link in our psychology and be the fatal flaw which reverses rational thought in human beings. I have long warned that without being educated to our own likelyhood of hypnotic programing we are ever prone to its negative effects.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 21 - 07:54 AM

Yes a UK doctor lied about the vaccine autism threat and it spread like wild fire.

How do crazy ideas develop? Sometimes a grain of truth like this
could be read by a screen writer and base a comedy series BRAIN DEAD https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4877736/
about a parasite causing the brains of consevatives to go insane, to one day 2 years later turning into the magic parasite killing Ivermectin to be a cure for Covid.
I am kidding about this series of events but all it takes is one little lie to capture millions.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 05:50 PM

Years ago a flawed paper was written by someone who fabricated the data that had to do with childhood vaccinations that might have mercury and autism. It was rubbish, it was withdrawn, the authors censured, but it continues to live a life of its own in the hands of anti-vaxxers.

It turns out there was a similar paper to do with Ivermectin that was withdrawn for data and ethical problems, but that continues to be the source of a lot of the misinformation about Ivermectin and COVID-19.

Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns

The preprint endorsing ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data

An excerpt from the Guardian article:

The study found that patients with Covid-19 treated in hospital who “received ivermectin early reported substantial recovery” and that there was “a substantial improvement and reduction in mortality rate in ivermectin treated groups” by 90%.

But the drug’s promise as a treatment for the virus is in serious doubt after the Elgazzar study was pulled from the Research Square website on Thursday “due to ethical concerns”. Research Square did not outline what those concerns were.

A medical student in London, Jack Lawrence, was among the first to identify serious concerns about the paper, leading to the retraction. He first became aware of the Elgazzar preprint when it was assigned to him by one of his lecturers for an assignment that formed part of his master’s degree. He found the introduction section of the paper appeared to have been almost entirely plagiarised.

It appeared that the authors had run entire paragraphs from press releases and websites about ivermectin and Covid-19 through a thesaurus to change key words. “Humorously, this led to them changing ‘severe acute respiratory syndrome’ to ‘extreme intense respiratory syndrome’ on one occasion,” Lawrence said.

The data also looked suspicious to Lawrence, with the raw data apparently contradicting the study protocol on several occasions.

“The authors claimed to have done the study only on 18-80 year olds, but at least three patients in the dataset were under 18,” Lawrence said.

“The authors claimed they conducted the study between the 8th of June and 20th of September 2020, however most of the patients who died were admitted into hospital and died before the 8th of June according to the raw data. The data was also terribly formatted, and includes one patient who left hospital on the non-existent date of 31/06/2020.”

There were other concerns.


“The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records,” Brown told the Guardian. “It’s certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren’t even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural.”

People who don't do a close reading on papers like this end up spreading the wrong information. And a lot of people apparently didn't read very carefully.

This article was published July 15, 2021 in The Guardian


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 05:02 PM

From The Guardian.

Judge reverses order forcing hospital to treat Covid patient with ivermectin

"Judge cites lack of ‘convincing evidence’ that drug is effective, siding with hospital that refused to administer medication.

On Monday, Judge Michael Oster of Butler county issued an order that sided with West Chester Hospital, citing a lack of “convincing evidence” that the drug – used in small doses in humans against external parasites such as headlice, and in larger doses for animals including cows and horses – could significantly improve the patient’s condition."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 02:07 PM

345 children in Texas were hospitalized with COVID-19 on Saturday. Just Saturday.

Meanwhile, data from the CDC. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Sep 21 - 10:48 AM

I noticed this story this morning: The W.H.O. lists Mu as a ‘variant of interest.’

Whack-a-mole indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 07:40 PM

Australia - COVID vaccine certificates can be forged within 10 minutes due to 'obvious' security flaw. Near-perfect forgeries of the federal government's COVID-19 vaccine digital certificate can be made in 10 minutes using free software, a member of the public has discovered. Richard Nelson, a software engineer in Sydney, has found an "obvious" security flaw in the Express Plus Medicare app allowing him to make vaccine certificates with any name and date of birth and featuring the background animations meant to prevent forgery. (read on)

As I don't have a smart phone I printed mine out, the background is just the Oz coat of arms, now all I need is a 10x8 photo frame to carry it around! I also have in my wallet the little cardboard appointment folder the medical centre gave me after my first vaccine. It has 2 stickers signed by the nurse giving details of each injection.

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 06:30 PM

From the BBC.

"Brazil and Argentina's World Cup qualifier was abandoned just minutes after kick-off on Sunday after Brazilian health officials objected to the participation of three Argentine players they believe broke quarantine rules.

The visitors walked off the pitch at the Corinthians Arena after the officials came out to stop the game.

The dramatic intervention came hours after Brazil's health authorities had said four England-based players for Argentina had to quarantine."

Brazil v Argentina abandoned after visiting players accused of Covid violation

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Vaccine passports in nightclubs and other indoor venues in England will be required at the end of this month, the vaccines minister has confirmed.

Nadhim Zahawi said it was the right time to start the scheme for sites with large crowds as all over-18s will have been offered two jabs by then.

Asking people to show certificates with Covid vaccination proof has been criticised by venues and some MPs.

Mr Zahawi said it would ensure the economy could remain open."

Covid-19: Vaccine passports to start in England this month


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 11:11 AM

Shit, I have never won at whack a mole.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 10:14 AM

A future of perpetual varient whack a mole...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 09:21 AM

The Present and Future of COVID Variants
Experts stress testing, vaccination amid delta surge

In fact, variants have continued to develop and spread since the emergence of delta. The World Health Organization has designated variants Eta, Iota, Kappa, and Lambda “variants of interest” and is tracking 13 additional variants that originated in the U.S., Brazil, the Philippines, Indonesia, Colombia, and other nations.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 21 - 08:50 AM

i am on a varient hunt.
The Columbian 'blue' varient seems to have some vaccine resistance but little is known yet. Not all varients gain prominence.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Sep 21 - 02:57 PM

Triage - Automatically send to the bottom of the list:
anti vax toxic substance self medicaters,
who are hell bent on winning
their Darwin awards...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Sep 21 - 12:36 PM

That reminds me, I need to give the dogs their heartworm monthly medication this weekend. Ivermectin.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 04 Sep 21 - 12:15 PM

From The Guardian newspaper site.

"An Oklahoma doctor has said overdoses of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which many believe without evidence can prevent or cure Covid-19, are helping cause delays and problems for rural hospitals and ambulance services struggling to cope with the resurgent pandemic."

Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Sep 21 - 07:35 AM

It is said that politics today is the new religion.

The new varient of concern is called the mu varient.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 06:59 PM

Raindog I scanned the crowd and identified about a half dozen women.
All the rest could have been suffering from testosterone poisoning?

Political protestors are usually religiously motivated and have decided to be bioterrorists, especially against children, in their anti vax crusade.

Forgive them for they do not know what they do.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 02:20 PM

Will things ever return to 'normal'?

From The Guardian

Anti-vaccine protesters try to storm London offices of medical regulator

"Police have prevented anti-vaccine protesters from storming the headquarters of Britain’s medical regulator during violent clashes in east London.

At least four officers were injured and arrests were made during a confrontation as hundreds of people gathered outside the offices of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) in Canary Wharf.

Police drew batons and called for reinforcements as protesters attempted to force open the door of the regulator’s offices, with security guards looking on from inside.

Some of the crowd who had gathered at Canary Wharf were later involved in another confrontation outside the Science Museum vaccination centre in Kensington, west London."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 11:14 AM

You don't need hindsight to see how stupid are some of the alternative faux-remedies, yet people announce to the world what they're taking instead of the vaccine. We live in an era of willful stupidity.

Streaming podcsts personality Joe Rogan is one of those idiots.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 10:29 AM

The US allowed 15 million doses of Pfizer to expire
but there are reasons and excuses
just like everything else
that ends in tradgedy

Pyroclastic clouds burned villagers to a crisp
The hurricane hit our cities like a fist
Red tide poisoned fish and folks alike
A Billion viral graves are about to spike

Once in a lifetime, twice in a week

The astroid was just a sliver
the creek's now a mighty river
The smoke made noon look like midnight
The crops all died of blight

Once in a lifetime, twice in a week

Fever and fits from small ticks
It hit a 100 in the Arctic
Permafrost began to burn
marked a point of no return

Once in a lifetime twice in a week.

Extinction became redemption
from the pain to come
It wasn't bleak for everyone
It was a golden age for some.

Once in a lifetime twice in a week


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 07:53 AM

At last, sanity prevails (at least on this matter)

From the BBC

EU and AstraZeneca reach deal to end vaccine row

"The EU and UK-Swedish drug-maker AstraZeneca have settled a row over a shortfall in coronavirus vaccines that affected the European rollout earlier this year.

AstraZeneca has agreed to deliver 200 million doses of its vaccine, which had been promised under a contract, to the EU by the end of March 2022.

The deal puts an end to the EU's pending action in the Belgian courts.

The EU said this week that 70% of adults had been double vaccinated."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Sep 21 - 10:55 AM

Australia has a small but vocal collection of nutters & anti vaxxers. A member of the ruling (rightwing) party in our federal parliament is one of the noisiest & has just left his party to join one even further to the right. This party is owned by a billionaire who spent $60 million on misinformation & outright lies last federal election & did not gain a seat, leading to the IKEA shop in his neighbourhood putting up a ginormous poster above their building saying he could have bought a seat from them for $39! Craig Kelly’s move to Palmer’s United Australia Party

Someone recently said on Sydney radio We don't have enough villages for the idiots we are producing & a local cartoonist produced a great cartoon on that theme on 31st August


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Sep 21 - 10:15 AM

Meanwhile, in highly educated countries, this nonsense continues to happen: Sydney Covid patient in Westmead hospital after overdosing on ivermectin and other online ‘cures’
Patient, who suffered vomiting and diarrhoea, part of trend hospital is seeing of people taking unproven substances

I read yesterday that the GOP radio host Rogan was COVID positive and was taking all of the Trump-approved medications, and Ivermectin.

#ShakesHead


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Sep 21 - 06:04 AM

From the website statista.com (google "Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of August 28, 2021, by country")

Fifteen African nations have fewer than two people in every hundred even partially vaccinated. At the bottom of the pile is the DRC, with a population of 105 million, one in every thousand of whom have received any vaccine. Taking Africa as a whole, around seven people in every hundred have received any vaccine.

We are not safe until everyone is safe. We've hardly got started.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 07:13 PM

Another varient has emerged from South Africa.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 12:21 PM

We are not banned from EU at this time. There are only obvious
recommendations to steer clear of our unvaccinated.
The vaccinated can still be carriers and can get sicker than they may expect. Delta packs a big punch of transmissabilty.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 09:53 AM

My daughter is preparing for a trip to Italy at the end of September. Her plans for Japan were scuttled months ago, this is the substitute. Who knows if she'll get to go anywhere after four more weeks pass.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 08:40 AM

The safe travel recommendation for the US has been reversed.
EU has placed new travel restrictions on the US.

I do not know the status on the US Canadian border.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:46 PM

We will outlive quite a few of those antivaxxers, at this rate.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:01 PM

We'll always have Covid around. We'll find better treatments. More people will get vaccinated, and some people who refuse will die, but it will always be here. I'm just hoping the rabid anti-vaxers will go away.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:01 PM

and stuff all anti mask madness.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 08:10 PM

We got past the Holocaust, we will get past this.
What people become normalized and accustomed to is beyond belief.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 07:53 PM

We will live with this virus for years, if not decades, if not forever. We will control its worst effects with vaccines, and vaccines alone. Not with social distancing, not with fear, not with lockdowns, not with outrageous and immoral diktats about not being allowed to mix with our own families and our nearest and dearest, not with masks. Definitely not with masks. We roll out vaccines to the world and we persuade everyone to take them. There is absolutely no other way of getting back to normal life as normal human beings.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:35 PM

I did not know about storage rule changes Stilly. Thanks
Steve I had that conversation with the pharmacist and pleaded guilty.
There is slow progress on the global front.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 03:59 PM

Bringing the pandemic to an end involves making vaccines available world-wide, not just in rich western countries. It also involves persuading everyone to get vaccinated. There are large parts of your country with alarming-low levels of takeup. You have preachers in the Deep South who are more or less ordering their flocks to reject the vaccine. You have a big problem. The Pfizer storage news is good, but on its own it fixes very little.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:39 AM

One of the reasons store pharmacies are able to distribute the Pfizer vaccine is because the company came back and changed the storage model. In mid-May this report was issued:

FDA In Brief: FDA Authorizes Longer Time for Refrigerator Storage of Thawed Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Prior to Dilution, Making Vaccine More Widely Available

Making COVID-19 vaccines widely available is key to getting people vaccinated and bringing the pandemic to an end. Pfizer Inc. submitted data to the FDA to support storage of undiluted, thawed vials of its COVID-19 vaccine for up to one month at refrigerator temperatures. This change should make this vaccine more widely available to the American public by facilitating the ability of vaccine providers, such as community doctors’ offices, to receive, store and administer the vaccine.

Additional Information
Based on a review of recent data submitted by Pfizer Inc. today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is authorizing undiluted, thawed Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine vials to be stored in the refrigerator at 2°C to 8°C (35°F to 46°F) for up to 1 month. Previously, thawed, undiluted vaccine vials could be stored in the refrigerator for up to 5 days.

Pfizer Inc. submitted data to the FDA to demonstrate that undiluted, thawed vials of its COVID-19 vaccine are stable at refrigerator temperatures for up to 1 month.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:53 AM

Regarding booster shots; Maryland made rules that the immuno suppressent may get a booster now, but some hosptals do not consider diabetes included in that group but CVS drugstore does so I went ahead and got a drugstore booster.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: gillymor
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 02:02 PM

For the record I wasn't taking issue with anything Jon posted, I appreciated his links, it was the posts prematurely promoting Ivermectin as a proven cure for the virus that I found irresponsible and potentially dangerous.



The links Jon posted weren't the problem, it was the ongoing discussion of the rest of the post. Reference to the original story was removed and he had discussed that also. This thread needs to shift back to the original topic and stop discussing moderation and arguing about misinformation. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 12:56 PM

The last lyrics from Hotel California Come to mind:

You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!

I think we have the case of someone who has simply checked out for a while. (Heck, Dick checked out last week and I spotted him posting in BS this morning. Quick turnaround!)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 12:31 PM

Remember.. even American 'Liberal progressives' are still Americans...

America rules by American rules...!!!


The rest of us just have to put up with their world dominating power and innate superiority...

But we stil loves 'em...


btw.. I'm still out bogged down in the real world of family health problems..
and have also not kept up with recent weeks of Mudcat Soap Opera..

So which much loved regular cast members have dramatically exited the show...???

.. Daresay as usual some will make an unsurprising return in future episodes...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 10:45 AM

No one is going to resolve anything about a drug used on head lice anytime soon, so move along.

I won't move along just yet.

A positive outcome for the use of the drug may be unlikely and it may well be shown to be ineffective, but, if it was as easily reduced to the simplicity you give above, I don't imagine research scientists from Oxford University and other agencies such as our NHS getting involved in a national trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 10:29 AM

Here's the classic scenario parents (of children too young to currently vaccinate) fear. Taken in the context of the children's hospital filling up (previous post) and you have a waking nightmare.

Unvaccinated, unmasked teacher spreads Covid-19 to elementary school students, CDC reports

The CDC said that some of the affected children at the Marin County, California, school went on to infect other students, their siblings and their parents.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 10:15 AM

BBC and Oxford University aren't the lunatic fringe like the original post was, but if you try to search on the topic you're going to mostly hit the scam sites, boosted to catch attention. No one is going to resolve anything about a drug used on head lice anytime soon, so move along. This was another drug in the panoply of Trump's "cures," coming to the surface again now.

From the New York Times: At a Children’s Hospital, a Wave of Young Patients Struggling to Breathe

At Children’s Hospital New Orleans, where the intensive care unit has been jammed with Covid-19 patients, scenes like this have played out unrelentingly over the past month. Nurses raced around monitoring one gut-wrenching case after another. One child was getting a complicated breathing treatment known as ECMO, a last resort after ventilators fail, which nurses said was almost unheard-of for pediatric cases. About a half-dozen others were in various stages of distress.

“We all thought, ‘Well, thankfully it’s not happening to the kids; none of us would be able to stomach that,’” said Mark Melancon, a longtime nurse at the hospital, recalling previous stages of the coronavirus pandemic. “Fast forward to now, and it’s happening with the kids.”

Mr. Melancon said that until this summer, the hospital had treated only one or two Covid-19 patients at a time. Now, a procession of patients require constant attention, their oxygen levels often dipping precariously low without maximum intervention.

As children’s hospitals in many parts of the United States admit more Covid-19 patients, a result of the highly contagious Delta variant, federal and state health officials are grappling with a sharp new concern: children not yet eligible for vaccination in places with substantial viral spread, now at higher risk of being infected than at any other time in the pandemic. Nowhere is that worry greater than in Louisiana, which has among the highest new daily case rates in the country and only 40 percent of people are fully vaccinated, putting children at particular risk as they return to school.


Add the category 4 Hurricane Ida ready to make landfall on New Orleans this afternoon, when people will be needing to see high ground and shelters, and you have another Katrina-style disaster looming. Most American large hospitals are set up with their own power plants now, but the impact will still be serious.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 06:51 AM

From The Observer newspaper.

Covid cases in England are 26 times higher than a year ago.

Covid cases 26 times higher in England

"Simon Clarke, associate professor in cellular microbiology at Reading University, said that in the week ending 20 August, the ONS estimated that 756,900 people in England were infected with Covid-19, which equated to one person in 70.

“This time last year, the ONS estimated that 28,200 people in England were infected. That is the equivalent of one person in 1,900 being infected with Covid-19. That means that community infections are 26 times more common now than they were a year ago, when the population was unvaccinated and the country was three months into its reopening.”

The fact that deaths and hospital admissions from Covid-19 are a fraction of their levels at the height of the outbreak in Britain demonstrates the protective power of the vaccines – more than 60% of the UK population has had two jabs."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 05:51 AM

Having been a somewhat busy chap for the last week, I blinked and missed this (I don't even know who's jumped ship). I can see no good reason for prohibiting the linking to genuine sites that provide neutral reporting of this issue, as Jon has said. There's a danger of being misinformed, true enough. But there's also danger in being uninformed.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 04:16 AM

Sorry SRS delete as you please but if you are going to suggest that sites like the

Oxford University or the BBC (or for that matter the page I gave before which is linked to in the BBC article) are fake. I guess I should be out of here too.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 08:56 AM

It takes a great deal of skepticism to get past the worst of the fraudsters when it comes to medical misinformation: there is a group called "the dirty dozen" who do it all in their own names, but the rest are sneaky. The takeaway from this latest episode is that we can safely assume that hard-hitting medical news stories aren't being generated by the free regional magazines distributed in grocery store racks.

No one needs to leave the Mudcat site over a tiff in the BS section, and everyone gets sucked in by these things at times. They're calculated to get past your common sense defenses. But if the party who first posted decides to leave, we're sorry, and hope you continue to post your wonderful music contributions above the line.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 10:19 PM

I just went through and removed several posts with the links and discussion of that pseudo-medical discussion of Ivermectin and possibly using it for COVID-19.

Its human application is for certain intestinal worms and head lice; it would be reckless to leave that initial post and the politely skeptical responses in place.

Please don't share more sources, "authoritative" or not, about using Ivermectin; there is a blossoming of fake medical sites right this minute producing this kind of information and you're only going to end up landing on those fake news sites if you try to look for actual research into the product.

gillymore's post stands as the lone remaining post on the topic. As I listened to Rachel Maddow discuss this tonight I planned to come back and remove all of this - gillymore beat me to the common-sense punch on the topic.

Let's move on.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 07:59 AM

Here is what the FDA has to say about Ivermectin-
"FDA has not approved Ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses)."

The article-https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

I'm not a big fan of censorship but until some legitimate studies have been done to prove the efficacy of this drug I propose the moderators remove any posts touting it's usage for COVID19. As Nigel pointed out we have safe and effective vaccines and encouraging people to use this unproven drug while shunning vaccinations will contribute to the continuance of this pandemic. As it stands some internet surfers could light on the pro-Ivermectin posts here and place their health and the health of others in danger.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Aug 21 - 10:17 AM

fingers crossed


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