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BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19

Mrrzy 06 Jan 21 - 12:20 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 12:20 PM

The scariest stat I saw today was loss of smell and taste in 86% of mild cases.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:59 AM

It may seem non sequitur to leave Jeri's post after several others were removed, but these two can serve as a reminder that the running battles from one thread to another are not acceptable.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:37 AM

Maggie got it right. I see it more like you have certain people you hate, designated adversaries, and so it's fair for you to make personal attacks.

It's not. While you're a member here, the personal attacks, the "stalking" will be deleted.

That's the last I'll say about it. Tangential, but mostly off-topic.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:17 AM

Thank you very much Sandra.
As I understand it, being black increases the chances of being very ill/dying from the virus.
I suppose the schools are being treated as childcare centres so that the parents can go to work.
But secondary school pupils are surely capable of looking after themselves at home? My sister and I did while our mother worked, even during the school holidays.
I also feel sorry for the teachers.
At least the supermarket Morrisons is giving all 'frontline workers' a 10% reduction on their bill at the checkout, on production of the ID badge. Husband proudly shows his badge and the lady always says, "Stay safe!"


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 11:16 AM

It's not unlikely that the new variant is becoming prevalent due to natural selection. Another point is that London, along with other parts of the south-east the main focus of the variant's explosive spread, was, until recently, under very mild restrictions (Tier 2), which are now regarded as having been ineffective. New variant that was maybe SLIGHTLY more transmissible, huge crowded city, indulgent restrictions regime, a penchant for many Londoners to pile down to Cornwall and Devon for their late holidays...As with everything, nothing is simple and nothing can be ascribed to a single factor. My hunch is that the variant IS more transmissible, but that only a fool would put a percentage on it, and we must use that to explain its spread only when we take all those other issues into account.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 10:56 AM

Apparently.. [ie, I switched TV on near the end of a news item, so missed most details]..

Covid deniers had to be ejected from a sterile ICU area of a UK hospital
after invading to photograph 'proof' that the virus is a hoax...!!!?????

When are these fukwits going to get prison time,
instead of minor reprimands,
or petty fines that will probably be paid by crowd funders..

If the worry is prison will make martyrs of them,
surely there are other ways to really punish such covidiot wankers...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 09:01 AM

We CAN pretend that new varient virus are not 70% more contagious/
We can pretend that virus won't continue to mutate.
We can pretend there is no such thing as virus'.

In our teenage years it was normal to feel almost immortal.
In our heart we all enjoy pretending.
The crazy people don't know they are pretending.
Sane people just pretend quietly and in private moments.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 08:47 AM

not a good situation for anyone. I hope it improves, but from what I've read about UK situation, it is not good.

best wishes & hugs to you both

sandra


Prime Minister's speech, 5th Jan


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 08:10 AM

Boris announced on Monday evening that all schools would be 'closed tomorrow' except for the children of key workers. Since my husband is a full-time school cleaner he was left wondering if he'd be needed or not. His team of cleaners comprises about fifteen people. Not a peep from his school either on their website or by phone. So he went in as usual yesterday, the date term was supposed to start.
There were only ten pupils (secondary school and sixth-form college) so he did some 'deep-cleaning' and was sent home a few hours early.
He was told to keep going in, and next week all the cleaners will be split into pairs per day. His day will be Fridays.
I can't see how this is protecting anybody. None of the ten pupils have been tested and are not wearing masks. The teacher/s are still being exposed to possible infection. And my husband has only been given a little paper mask to wear.
I'm terrified he gets Covid, and I'm surprised his Union (Unison) hasn't spoken up about this.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 01:49 PM

She's not a crazy person...

Neither are all the not crazy people leaving not crazy
comments of support for her...

Just understand they are not the crazy folks.. WE are...!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:54 PM

Here's a CBC News piece about a Newfound folksong parody that's on-topic. ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:21 PM

I know what you mean but denial rivals survival.

Denial is always the first response

An Alzheimer syndrome seems to accompagny covid infection beyond the mildest symptoms and even compromises blood brain barriers.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 11:51 AM

It's part of a military type of triage, because in wartime, resources are limited. The "expectant" triage category, which doesn't typically exist in "normal life", is when a patient is expected to die without heroic intervention. They're dealing with reality, which sucks. Look to all those "we don't believe Covid is real", or "we're tired of wearing masks and distancing" people for the reasons.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 09:52 AM

Los Angeles County has had to tell its ambulances not to even bother transporting people "with little chance of survival" and to conserve O2. Giving people no chance of survival. Great.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 08:13 PM

Here in Australia's biggest city we have a couple of big hotspots & some lockdowns, but folk from these clusters have gone about their business not knowing they have covid so other suburbs & country towns are at risk. States have locked their boarders against travellers from other states. Country towns have been mainly covid free so far. Today's news - People in Broken Hill (1200 km from Sydney), Orange (250km) and Nyngan (550km) urged to come forward for testing after man travelled for camping trip.

Finally our state Premier has ordered (rather than strongly advising) mask to be worn on public transport & inside shopping centers, shops & other premises. Folk with medical conditions that make wearing a mask difficult or dangerous are exempt, but of course some folk know rules don't apply to them. They have god?-given rights, but as a cartoonist put it "Your right not to wear a mask ends at my nasal passages."

Where to buy reusable face masks in Australia – and how to make your own


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 06:26 PM

New news is just the old news again here in the UK. Back to full lockdown in England.No real surprise there.

Yet again I have to ask who is in charge of pr/communication for the Government? Who ever it is they are doing a pretty poor job.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:05 PM

Here's that story about a costume with a fan spreading COVID-19.

A well-meaning gesture at a California hospital may have backfired this Christmas: To celebrate the holiday, an emergency room employee at Kaiser Permanente San Jose briefly wore an inflatable costume to work on December 25. Hospital officials are now looking into whether the costume's fan may have splayed infectious particles across the emergency department.

Between December 27 and January 1, 44 hospital employees at Kaiser Permanente San Jose tested positive for COVID-19.

"Any exposure, if it occurred, would have been completely innocent, and quite accidental, as the individual had no COVID symptoms and only sought to lift the spirits of those around them during what is a very stressful time," Irene Chavez, the hospital's senior vice president, said in a statement to ABC7 News.

She added: "If anything, this should serve as a very real reminder that the virus is widespread, and often without symptoms, and we must all be vigilant."


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 01:31 PM

Bonz - perhaps this year they are waiting to see if they snuff it from covid,
before bothering with the hassle of tax forms...???


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 01:13 PM

I wish many of our clients would do that, always last minute and only send half of the information!!


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Jos
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 12:09 PM

HMRC send me emails from about April onwards telling me that my tax return is due and urging me to hurry up and send it in - even though I don't need to do it until January. It isn't as if it comes as a surprise.
Mine is very straightforward - it takes me about a day, and then I check it again the next day before sending it in. If it was so complicated I needed an accountant I would give him or her the figures in plenty of time so there would be no need to extend the deadline.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 11:58 AM

None of our clients fall into that category. It doesn't matter whether you are in the 1% or the 99%, if you are required to complete a tax return, the deadline is 31 January.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 07:16 AM

Yep, first things first, eh, Bonzo? Put accountants first in line for the jab! Very timely of you to post that, as I've just read that 1% of the population owns 25% of the wealth...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:55 AM

Whilst I agree 100% that measures must be put in place to keep teachers safe, so also must accountants - who provide an ignored essential service, be kept safe by extending the tax return deadline to 28 February or even 31 March, to allow remote working which is very much slower.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: mg
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 02:07 AM

from california...43 cases of covid in emergency department staff..or perhaps including other staff..they are saying someone wearing a christmas tree costume..with a fan to keep it inflated..perhaps spread it. if so...probably the stupidest thing i have heard. Google it..if it is true..the basic story is true..it is beyond belief.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 11:07 PM

Hardly new, but still quotable, is
a Tweet from Dan Rather, December 2020.

So, let me get this right.
The criticism of Dr. Jill Biden is
that she's not a "medical doctor"?
Says a bunch of people who have been
ignoring medical doctors
about a pandemic that has killed over 300,000 Americans?
Can someone invent a hypocrisy mute button?

17 December 2020


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 07:57 PM

Great start to what is supposed to be a better New Year, eh! The motor homes are still around, the lights are on in the second homes, saw a bunch of eight people having a huddled picnic on the sea front here in tier 3... It was so bloody cold that I was tempted to go up to 'em and tell 'em that they'd catch pneumonia out in this weather...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:35 PM

My wife is still under orders to return to front line infant school teaching
on Monday.
With no enhanced PPE provided, or priority for a vaccine...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:33 PM

A further 20 patients being transferred from Kent hospitals

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/kent-is-completely-overwhelmed-240101/

I cannot manage a blue click easily on this smartphone

Added for you. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:31 PM

The family of 5 who live next door to us all have covid. Two are teachers, one primary and the other secondary.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:20 PM

Close members of my wife's family in Wales have covid..

Apparently one of their student kids brought it into the house.

Parents are in their 50s, and so far seem to be recovering ok
from a very unpleasant illness...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:49 PM

It used to be rare, when one heard about someone who thought they had COVID. A friend got tested back in April for something that was so rare it was almost impossible to find a test. This week I learned of a friend whose husband brought it home from work to her; they are recuperating. My next door neighbor [foolishly] went to church on xmas eve and learned a couple of days later that the pastor had COVID, so they're laying low. No symptoms, and they're an older couple so it needs to stay that way. I've seen her twice briefly on the porch to hand over something (a gift, and later baked goods). Such a brief encounter and only one time on the porch neither of us had a mask. She has several relatives who have reported it, one was on a ventilator.

This news is going to continue to be grim as we wait out the 14 days period after New Year's Eve when people still foolishly got together indoors for extended periods of time. Texas hospitals are full and patients with other problems are being sent out of state to hospitals with room for them.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:36 PM

Next lever tier will be 'Variant of oh fuck !!!!!!!'...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:18 PM

Posted this in the wrong thread earlier.

'I see that the new 'new variant' has been designated 'Variant of Concern'by Public Health England.'


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:51 AM

Well one bit of good news is that rates have started to fall, albeit slowly, here in Dover. Remains to be seen if they will increase again after the Christmas and New Year holidays.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:41 AM

Usual tory divide and rule, and distract, tactics..

In the summer it was cities versus country & coast;
now also pitting south east versus south west...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:36 AM

Hospital provision between Taunton and Bristol
has been severely reduced in the recent few years.

Tories were already dismantling capacity at Weston super Mare hospital
before it was stricken with emergency covid deaths
and temporarily closed earlier in the summer
when lockdown was eased.

North Somerset locals were attacked by Bristol newspapers
for justifiably protesting about that inevitable result
of summer tourists flooding back...

Do not resuscitate now applies to elderly patients hospitalized for chest pains
and other common potentially serious ailments..

The hospital is now already that desperate for available beds...


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 04:50 AM

Well here in the Westcountry the ethos has been to be very compliant with the rules and the infection rates have been lower than in most other places. Yet for months we've been tearing our hair out as we've seen masses of tourists pouring in untrammelled since the summer right to the end of October, the vast majority from urban areas with far higher rates than ours. I can go out now and see camper vans, motor homes, cars with roof boxes and occupied second homes in blatant contravention of the rules. We are all being told not to travel and major hospitals are few and far between (one in Cornwall for half a million people). So the resentment at the idea that sick people from all over the place may be wheeled in because of the running down of the NHS and the gross mishandling of this pandemic is perfectly understandable. Innit.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Allan Conn
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:41 AM

I kind of agree with Rain Dog on that. If people need treated then they need treated. Folk in rural areas shouldn't be too complacent. We often have lower rates - but also tend to have less capacity - so could well also find ourselves being treated outside our regions. Just several weeks ago here in the Scottish Borders we were like our neighbours in Dumfries & Galloway and had very low rates at about 30+ per 100,000 - but it has since rocketed to about 170 per 100,000. We could well find ourselves taken up to Edinburgh for treatment when just really days ago we thought we didn't have a problem and the local hospital was under no pressure. It is about pulling together when too often folks look for others to blame. You even heard the suggestion here among some that the fault for the increase was the doctors and health workers from the Lothians coming to help at the Borders Hospital. Gratitude eh???


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Rain Dog
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 03:01 AM

Tut tut tut pfr.

It is the National Health Service.

Local hospital beds for local people?

Local comedians for local people?

No more hospital care for drinkers, smokers, drug users and mushroom users?

Pfr.When did that change to parochial folk rocker.

Happy New Year to you and the rest of the mudcatters. Stay safe and beware the new 'new variant' heading your way.

Tier 5 anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Dec 20 - 01:46 PM

So..

this evening's news..

South East England increasing covid crisis, Hospitals at bursting point and overflowing..

South East covid patients being transported cross country to South West England intensive care beds..

That's nice for us innit...!!!

Exporting their new variant risk to our Hospitals and medical workers;
and filling up our intensive care beds
so there's no more space for us when we get infected by them...

Nice to think how many of 'em were brave bold anti mask covid deniers...???


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 03:40 PM

One step forward and two steps back.
Tories have always been 2 bit hacks.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 03:11 PM

wot a surprise..

tory govt insist on reopening primary schools on Monday,
but will not prioritise front line school staff over age of 50
for protective vaccines...

.. making the most of their last chance to kill off expensive higher salaried older unionised anti tory voting teachers...!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 03:01 PM

Aw.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 02:56 PM

Dawn Wells (Mary Ann on Gilligan's Island) died of COVID-19.
    Dawn Wells, best known for playing the girl-next-door castaway Mary Ann on the iconic CBS comedy series Gilligan’s Island, died Wednesday morning in Los Angeles of complications due to Covid-19. She was 82.

    Wells, who was Miss Nevada in the 1959 Miss America pageant, beat out 350 actresses for the role of Mary Ann Summers. She also appeared in more 150 series and several movies during her career as well as on Broadway.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Allan Conn
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 02:13 AM

Oxford vaccine given approval today and seemingly supplies for up to 4 million shots ready to be rolled out and of course because just needs to be kept in fridge it can be distributed from GP surgeries and straight to care homes. Or I suppose maybe like the flu vaccine which here in Kelso was also done in a local concert hall. Two shots. Possibly up to 12 weeks apart as decision is to get at least one shot to as many folk's as possible. In the trials no-one who received at least one shot contracted severe symptoms or was hospitalised.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 20 - 01:15 AM

This faster spreading COVID-19 virus has been discovered in Colorado in a young man with no history of travel. Not surprising.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: mg
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 10:18 PM

interesting reports on nasal vaccines..that would be great..potential bottlenecks for vial, needles etc. removed. people hate getting shots..more would probably take nasal. not sure of refrigeration requirements..


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 08:30 AM

COVID https://www.politico.com/cartoons/2020/03/26/cartoonists-around-the-world-take-on-a-global-pandemic-000141?slide=10

https://www.politico.com/cartoons/2020/03/26/cartoonists-around-the-world-take-on-a-global-pandemic-000141?slide=10


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 20 - 05:15 AM

That was good news. US hospitals are now running out of Covid treatment supplies. The sick are on their own.


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Subject: RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Dec 20 - 06:56 PM

I saw a YouTube video from a Doctor (he has several on COVID) where he was saying the Astra-Zeneca/Oxford vaccine would turn out to be the most effective. Because:
1) Old technology.
2) Claimed efficacy would probably improve with larger data, whereas the others may well fall due to distribution logistics with storage temperature needed.
3) $3/4 a shot means the take-up world wide will be greater. And it has to be a world solution, we are a flat earth (commercially speaking).

& I would add that the Serum Institute in India (the biggest make of vaccines) turned over all their production to the A-Z/O vaccine long ago. A gamble now paying off. India is a big market.

I see several of this parish have had the call to arm. Things is moving fast.


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