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Ballads in Robin Hood stories

GUEST,Balladeer of sorts 28 Jan 20 - 06:15 PM
Susan of DT 28 Jan 20 - 08:17 PM
Thomas Stern 28 Jan 20 - 09:23 PM
Mrrzy 29 Jan 20 - 08:24 AM
GUEST,Balladeer of sorts 29 Jan 20 - 09:15 AM
leeneia 29 Jan 20 - 04:05 PM
Gurney 29 Jan 20 - 04:38 PM
GUEST,Balladeer of sorts 30 Jan 20 - 09:03 AM
leeneia 30 Jan 20 - 11:59 AM
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Subject: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: GUEST,Balladeer of sorts
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 06:15 PM

Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone ever put music to the ballads featured in Robin Hood stories, or if they were traditional songs added to lend authenticity, or if the songs were purely literary devices written at the same time as the tales themselves.

Any leads would be appreciated, as would dumbed-down guitar-chord versions of anything available, as I am but a strummer and not-very-good fingerpicker.

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: Susan of DT
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 08:17 PM

There are a great number of Child ballads about Robin Hood: #117-153. Bronson (Traditional Tunes of the Child Ballads) has tunes for most of them.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 09:23 PM

might find something in the Ed McCurdy ROBIN HOOD recording
originally on Riverside
LP, re on Wonderland then on CD

NY, April 1957
Riverside RLP 12-810                                        LP 1957    [The Legend of Robin Hood ]
Liner notes by Kenneth S. Goldstein
Riverside Wonderland RLP 1458                               LP 1961    [The Legends of Robin Hood ]
[Riverside Wonderland, blue r-t-r label; Wonderland, red/black label ]
Wonderland (A.A. Records) LP 290                            LP 1973    [Robin Hood]
Wonderland Golden Records(Canada) LP 290                   LP         [Robin Hood]
Drive (Image/Liberty International Publishing) PUR 1385    CD 2002    [The Legends of Robin Hood ]

Narrated by Michael Kane#; Sung by Ed McCurdy*
guitar accompaniment by Frank Hamilton
Edited by Kenneth S. Goldstein

A1   1. Robin Hood’s Birth                      0:29 #
A2   2. Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters    4:00 *
A3   3. Robin Hood and Little John               6:36 *#
A4   4. Robin Hood Rescues Will Stuttley         4:33 #
A5   5. Robin Hood and Maid Marion               5:43 *
A6   6. Robin Hood and the Butcher               5:03
B1   7. Robin Hood’s Golden Prize                5:45
B2   8. Robin Hood and the Prince of Aragon      7:18
B3   9. Robin Hood and the Pedlar                4:01
B4 10. Robin Hood and the Golden arrow          5:03
B5 11. Robin Hood’s Death                      3:31




Also note (don't know this recording):
Robin Hood: Elizabethan Ballad Settings by Paul O'Dette.
SKU 44644.
Publisher Harmonia Mundi Fr. 2001.

Paul O'Dette
Release Date: Apr 10, 2001 Format: CD
Record Label: Harmonia Mundi (Distributor) UPC: 093046726522
1. I Cannot Keepe My Wife at Howme, folk song
2. Up Tails All, variations for harpsichord
3. The Spanish Pavan
4. Robin Hoode, for lute
5. John Come Kiss Me Now, for viol (from The Division-Viol)
6. Chromatic Pavane and Galliard: Chromatica Pavana
7. Chromatic Pavane and Galliard: Galliard
8. Sueit smyling Katie loves me (from Panmure MS)
9. Put on thy sark on Munday, for lute
10. Buckinghames branle
11. Lady Lothian's Lilt
12. Lavolta, for keyboard No. 2 in G minor, MB 91
13. Wolsey's Wild (Wilson's Wild), variations for keyboard, MB 37
14. Pavan & Galliard ("Bray"), for keyboard in F major No. 1, MB 59: Pavana Bray
15. Pavan & Galliard ("Bray"), for keyboard in F major No. 1, MB 59: Galiarda
16. The woods so wild, variations for keyboard, MB 85
17. Rowland (or "Lord Willoughby's Welcome home"), variations for keyboard, MB 7
18. Pavin ("by Rossesters"), for lute
19. Galliard ("by Rossesters"), for lute
20. Lusty Gallant
21. A Ground
22. Home again, market is done
23. Trenchmore
24. Mall Symes


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 08:24 AM

I don't think the question is about songs ABOUT Robin Hood, but rather about what, say, Alan a Dale sings IN the Robin Hood stories / movies.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: GUEST,Balladeer of sorts
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 09:15 AM

Mrrzy, precisely.

I shall investigate the other suggestions as well, but I'm interested in tunes for Alan A'Dale's songs.

I've been reading the Howard Pyle version if it helps.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: leeneia
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 04:05 PM

I tried to use the Internet to answer the simple question, "Where did the Robin Hood stories come from?" I couldn't find the answer. Most writers were only interested in the historicity of Robin Hood, and I was ready to call him a fictional character from the get-go.

I believe that the oldest sources of Robin Hood tales were old ballads. That is, there weren't ballads IN the stories, the ballad was the whole enchilada. Later, when more people learned to read and books sales to the public became possible, authors took the plots and the characters from the ballads and wrote stories.

In my experience, it's lot easier to find the words for an old ballad than to find the tune. It would be interesting to know where Ed McCurdy got the tunes for the album described above by Thomas Stern. Thanks, Thomas.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: Gurney
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 04:38 PM

I used to sing 'Robin Hood and the Bishop of Hereford' a while ago. OOps! Make that 50 years ago!

"Now, some will tell of brave Robin Hood,
how he fought the barons bold,
But I'll tell you how he served the Bishop of Hereford,
and robbed him of his gold.

Ahh. Memories.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: GUEST,Balladeer of sorts
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 09:03 AM

leeneia, you said:


"I believe that the oldest sources of Robin Hood tales were old ballads. That is, there weren't ballads IN the stories, the ballad was the whole enchilada."

All that is true, but in the editions of the stories that I've read, there are ballads, love songs, etc.

I'm wondering if any of them existed outside the literary world of the tales, and whether there are tunes extant to them.


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Subject: RE: Ballads in Robin Hood stories
From: leeneia
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 11:59 AM

I think you would be served best by following up on what Susan of DT said above.


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