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Correct location for historical song?

Lighter 11 Aug 19 - 05:40 PM
Joe Offer 11 Aug 19 - 12:37 PM
Jeri 11 Aug 19 - 12:14 PM
Jim Carroll 11 Aug 19 - 11:43 AM
Jack Campin 11 Aug 19 - 11:37 AM
Stilly River Sage 11 Aug 19 - 11:31 AM
GUEST,Fyldeplayer 11 Aug 19 - 11:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Lighter
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 05:40 PM

John Keats thought Cortez discovered the Pacific, but the poem containing the error has been hailed as a classic for 200 years.


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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 12:37 PM

I think I'd prefer accuracy. If you put the song out of mind for a week or so, there's a good chance your mind will come up with a workable alternative.
Good luck.
Joe


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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 12:14 PM

Rumor has it that from Ushant to Scilly isn't 35 leagues.
I think Jim's right about how important the inaccuracy is. If it's fun to sing, people can suspend the impulse to say "but that's not right".
Plus, depending on how far it's spread, there probably is some way to alter it.


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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 11:43 AM

Folk song (proper) is full of historical inaccuracies - sometimes deliberately so - they are more often records of people's desires and impressions rather than documentary information
The bard who composed Haughs of Cromdale actually invented a second battle in which the Jacobites routed the enemy, a pretty good example of this

For me, it depends on two things - how important the inaccuracy is and how difficult it is to alter - if what you have written captures the general spirit of the subject, why bother ?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 11:37 AM

The Haughs of Cromdale is the definitive example of a song with totally discombobulated history. The Band Played Waltzing Matilda isn't much better.


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Subject: RE: Correct location for historical song?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 11:31 AM

My father wrote a song about the "Pig War" in the San Juan Islands of Washington State, and when it was played for one of the park rangers at that park he had a dispute with one of the facts. I asked Dad about the ranger's suggestion that the "fact" be changed, and he would have nothing to do with it. In hindsight, it was a negotiable tidbit and the ranger was not a reliable source, so I think Dad made the correct decision.

If you know it's wrong, and you can determine how much wrong, you are in charge of this research and a rewrite if you choose. In my opinion.


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Subject: Correct location for historical song?
From: GUEST,Fyldeplayer
Date: 11 Aug 19 - 11:25 AM

I have composed, performed and won favour with a recent song. I have several requests from others to use it. I have however discovered a flaw in my 'facts' regarding the location of the activities described, a matter of maybe 30miles of coast which is not much in global terms. Should I plough on, hoping historians present turn I blind eye? If anyone can cite other examples of incorrect history in well know songs it would make me less uncomfortable pressing on. A rewrite is not possible as it won't scan.


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