Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2]

Help: What is a 'forebitter'?

Related threads:
Stories/Shanties of Hjalmar Rutzebeck (22)
The Advent and Development of Chanties (888)
Spanish sea shanties (59)
Lyr Req/Add: Alabama John Cherokee (15)
The origin of Sea Chanteys (129)
Info: The Shanty Book (Richard Runciman Terry) (25)
Lyr Add: Chanties of Capt. Tho. Forrest (15)
Shanty or Chantey? (160)
Lyr Req: Strike Up the Band, Here Comes a Sailor (8)
L.A. Times article on S.F. chantey sing (34)
Lyr Add: Huckleberry Hunting (Pumping Chantey) (51)
Deficit of Doerflinger on Wikipedia (15)
Annotated Bibliography on Sea Shanties (9)
sea shanties (110)
A Little-Known Shanty Collection (42)
French Shanty Site (8)
What your favorite sea shanty? (83)
(origins) Origin: John Cherokee (59)
Lyr Req: One More Pull (41)
Chanties Helped Win World War I (25)
(origins) Origins: Yangtse River Shanty (32)
What exactly is a sea shanty? (26)
Sea Chantey Lyrics, MIDI tunes, & MP3's (54)
Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman (165)
Cowell Collection Shanties (4)
Tempo for Chanties (12)
Lyr Add: Windlass Shanty-Lincoln Colcord Rework (12)
Lyr Req: French sea shanties (40)
What is a Shanty (79)
Happy! - July 30 (Doerflinger) (4)
Lyr Add: Larry Marr (shanty) (1)
Lyr Add: Windlass Chantey (8)
Lyr Add: Hi Rio, Randy-o! Shanty? (4)
Watered Down Shanties (33)
Who Said - Shanty worth 5 men? (30)
Sea Chanteys (shanteys) part two (3)
Lyr Req: Shantyman (Bob Watson) (14)
shanty sessions in U.K. (12)
New England Shanty Sessions (31)
Lyr Req: Whalen's Fate (Doerflinger version) (6)
Shanty Gathering Ideas for New England (26)
Lyr Add: Seafood Shop Chantyman's Song (5)
Chanties in Southern Maine (5)
Musical question (chantey types) (30)
Baggyrinkle - To Hull & Back (Shanty Festival) (58)
Lyr Req: Sea chantey:'...wouldn't do me any harm' (34)
help: Moby Dick shanty thread? (19)
Shantyfest at Mystic Seaport (3)
help a struggling student! - triple meter chant? (10)
Lyr Req: Seeking: 2 Shanties & 1 Traditional Folk (9)
Shanty background: Portland's Tunnels (32)
Rum, Sea Shanties and Women (27)
William Main Doerflinger 1909-2000 (15)

Don Firth 03 Oct 09 - 02:18 PM
Tug the Cox 03 Oct 09 - 03:57 PM
Gurney 03 Oct 09 - 05:54 PM
Dave Hanson 04 Oct 09 - 03:39 AM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 03 Aug 19 - 06:02 PM
Mrrzy 04 Aug 19 - 05:43 PM
Steve Gardham 04 Aug 19 - 06:32 PM
The Sandman 05 Aug 19 - 02:46 AM
Share Thread
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Oct 09 - 02:18 PM

An aside:

Minted as early as the 1400s, the Spanish coins called "pieces of eight" (worth eight reals) was scored, like a piece of pie, into eight "bits." It could be broken, and one could make change by breaking the coin along the score lines. If one broke the coin into quarters, one had "two bits." Half would be "four bits," and so on. Hence our modern practice of referring to a quarter of a dollar as "two bits," fifty cents as "four bits," seventy-five cents as "six bits."

Bit of trivia, but interesting, I thought.

Don Firth

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 03 Oct 09 - 03:57 PM

Margot may have been joking 10 yearts ago, but the phrase 'bitter end' actually is first noted as a nautical term ( see Michael Quinion's Worrld Wide Words.
No mention of Scuttlebutt here, see the Chantey Cabin website.

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Gurney
Date: 03 Oct 09 - 05:54 PM

I've waited long enough for someone to pick Kendal up!
Look, matey, what have you got against us tosspots? If it wasn't for us, all the pubs and bars would have gone out of business by the time you matelots got back ashore, and you'd have to buy from a bottle-shop and drink it in an alley.
More power to the tosspots' elbows, that's what I say.

And Shane probably agrees!

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Oct 09 - 03:39 AM

Dave, I've always known that song as ' The Soldiers Prayer ' ending with the verse-

What last shall we pray for lets pray for the king,
And a right lousy bastard to us he has been,
And if he gets one dose may he also get ten,
May he have a bloody clinic full said the sailor amen.

Dave H

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 03 Aug 19 - 06:02 PM

“You will set me down as a great egotist, which is one of Jack's characteristics, as he mostly makes himself the hero of his narration, and from the Admiral down to the Mid, we all have a forebitter to veer away upon.”
[Pitt, B., The Cabin Boy, 1840, p.349]

Note: "...Admiral down to the Mid...", not your typical workingman's mariners.

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Aug 19 - 05:43 PM

Let's drink a toast to the admiral and here's to the captain bold... I think it's called the men behind the guns. Great seasong... What kind of chantey?

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Aug 19 - 06:32 PM

A chantey is not a forebitter. A forebitter is not a chantey. One is purely for entertainment, the other exclusively a work song in its proper environment, historically at least. Nowadays they are both solely entertainment but still clearly distinguished. Very rarely did bits of ballads creep into the chanteys. Bits of Upton's Homeward and Outward Bound crop up in chanteys, but very rarely.

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Help: What is a 'forebitter'?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Aug 19 - 02:46 AM

I thought it was a love bite on the foreskin

Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
  Share Thread:

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")

Mudcat time: 7 December 9:12 AM EST

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.