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BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Steve Shaw 25 Mar 21 - 07:44 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Mar 21 - 07:38 PM
Steve Shaw 10 Mar 21 - 09:22 AM
Raggytash 10 Mar 21 - 09:19 AM
Steve Shaw 08 Mar 21 - 10:15 AM
The Sandman 08 Mar 21 - 07:15 AM
MikeL2 08 Mar 21 - 07:06 AM
Raggytash 03 Mar 21 - 07:54 AM
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Steve Shaw 02 Mar 21 - 01:28 PM
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Raggytash 02 Mar 21 - 09:16 AM
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The Sandman 01 Mar 21 - 02:58 AM
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The Sandman 28 Feb 21 - 03:57 AM
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Raggytash 26 Feb 21 - 08:01 AM
Jon Freeman 26 Feb 21 - 07:53 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 07:44 PM

My post is hanging, moderator. Please consider binning it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 07:38 PM

Raheem Sterling is not "of African origin." He was born in Jamaica and moved to this country when he was five. His nationality is British. He has explained the tattoo as having a deeper meaning for him than as a symbol of violence, in connection with the murder of his father when Raheem was two years old. After a very disturbed childhood, and several relatively minor glitches in behaviour since, he has become a superb footballer and a prominent fighter against racism. He contributed a large sum of money to help the survivors of the Grenfell fire. He has more than made good after a very difficult start in life and that's something we can applaud.

You made an inaccurate assertion about a young black man's origin and you picked on one fairly small feature to cast him in a negative light. So you said very little about Raheem Sterling but you spoke volumes about the flaws in your own character. We have a word for people who choose to highlight cherrypicked "negative" attributes of black people in order to demonise them. I'll stop there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Mar 21 - 09:22 AM

Not at all confident.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Mar 21 - 09:19 AM

Best of luck to Liverpool tonight, even though they are 2-0 up from the first away leg I think they will need it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Mar 21 - 10:15 AM

Completely imploded. Too many personnel changes every game, nothing settled. Quite often they play fairly well except for getting the ball in the net. They'll be back, but we need Virgil, and the front three starting to actually communicate with each other again. Lessee if we can get past Wednesday night...

Best not to sack the boss just because of a bad run over several weeks. Wouldn't help.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Mar 21 - 07:15 AM

is it time klopp left the club


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Mar 21 - 07:06 AM

Hi Steve Et All..

Just watched Man United When they played brilliantly to beat Our Noisy Niebours .

What a gme .... Full of fast exciting football. We coasted back to No 2 .....

Oh and I watchwd Liverpool   .....nufff said

Cheers Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Mar 21 - 07:54 AM

Well given that they have lost 21 of their 26 matches, and only managed a draw a further 2, I'd say that is a reasonable bet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Mar 21 - 07:40 AM

sheff utd to lose tonight?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Rain Dog
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 03:42 PM

It is a pity that Saint & Greavsie did not knock some sense into Trump when they had the chance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 02:31 PM

I never said he was he is the manager of palace and his style of foo tball is boring


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 01:28 PM

A wayside pulpit outside a church in Liverpool in the mid 60s asked

"What would you do if Jesus came to Liverpool?"

Graffiti scrawled underneath it:

"Move St John to outside right"


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 09:45 AM

Didn't know that Gabriel Jesus was a goalie....

I'll get me coat...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 09:16 AM

Jesus saves .............. but St John scores off the rebound!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Mar 21 - 08:11 AM

Liverpool legend Ian St John has left us. A hero of the Shanks era...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 21 - 04:28 AM

He wasn't the gaffer of a club in either of those games, Dick!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Mar 21 - 02:58 AM

too right roy hodge podge is the epitome of greyfootball


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 08:06 PM

Well bejaysus we had the most boring 0-0 ever and then we have Ole whingeing about not getting a penalty over a "handball" that was so bloody confusing that the only proper decision would have been to let it go. And Ole seems to have forgotten that Man U have had four more penalties awarded than any other Premier League club over the last couple of years.

In contrast, once again we had a cracking, positive game at Bramhall Lane...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 04:38 AM

My fingers are crossed and my loins are girded...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 03:57 AM

will liverpool beat sheff utd?and will fulham beat c pal;ace


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 11:00 AM

I enjoy all 3 games [apart from the soccer diving, but as regards benefting the local community in active participation, theGAA have it right and soccer has lost its way


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 08:01 AM

I started this thread with the point that Gaelic Hurling and Gaelic Football are FAR more entertaining to watch than Association Football and that all the players are amateurs (I suspect that "boot money" may play a part).

Hurling in particular is said to be the fastest field sport in the world and the skill levels are astonishing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 07:53 AM

I don't watch much these days or really for quite a few years but remember as a kid and Norwich, so bring back Ken Foggo I say. He was a pretty decent old style winger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 07:45 AM

In gheneral i agree , i do like to see all skills dribbling tackling not just passing and keeping possesion.
in ireland THE GAA do a great job by keeping the game amateur, that means everybody gets an opportunity regardless of income to play and each county is only represented by people who live in the county, this is really good for the local community and for getting young people involved in sport


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 07:00 AM

I just want to see good, positive, attacking football. It's a game for the masses who pay handsomely to see it, and the masses want exciting, thrilling games. That means plenty of mistakes and plenty of goals. This season I've seen Liverpool, West Ham, Chelsea (recently) and even City playing like that. On the other hand, I've seen many of the clubs playing against Liverpool (the games I mostly watch), fearful of the front three, playing deep, packed defensive lines and playing most of the game in their own half. They hope to keep a clean sheet and mug Liverpool with an isolated, successful counter-attack. It's the most tedious bloody stuff to watch and is against what I believe to be the spirit of the game. Manchester United did it. Atlético did it against Chelsea (and nothing gave me more satisfaction than seeing them get exactly what they deserved). I think it's a worrying trend that will ruin the game at the top level. It reminds me of the way continental teams played in the 70s.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Feb 21 - 02:41 AM

The game has changed so much from the days of Matthews[ king of dribble] skiils that matthews had, have disappeaerd to some extent eg dribbling round a player.
from the point of views of entertainment, passing to keep continuos possesion is not such an interesting spectacle as the more varied game which had a larger proprtion of dribbling tackling as well as keeping possession.
i think there is a valid argument for introducing a maximum wage


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 05:55 PM

Superb performance from the lads tonight, and a great game to watch. The away goals rule is a bit of a bugger in tbe current circumstances...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Feb 21 - 09:08 AM

What odds could I get for Liverpool not being in the top four by the end of tonight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 11 Feb 21 - 10:00 AM

Hi Steve

There are other reasons for the more boring games........ MONEY,

Referees ,not just refs on the field..... cameras all over the place. And the players having to play so many games in a short time.

The spectators arw more interested on winning ..not for the Quality of playrers ..

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 01:53 PM

Yep. A waste of two and a quarter hours of my life. At least a penalty shootout would have spiced it up a bit...

I think we need a hard think about why good attacking teams are being blunted so often. Could be lack of fans, could be VAR, could be good (or bus-parking) defences...That match sorely needed an early goal to get it flying. When Citeh score early it draws the other team out, they take more risks and we get more goals and more excitement. Shame that City always end up winning though!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 11:21 AM

Well United are safely through to the next round of the FA cup, the match itself was frankly tedious lightened only by a cracking goal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Feb 21 - 11:10 AM

Until the goalie mistakes, Liverpool played reasonably well against a tough opposition. The two daft errors to make it 1-3 knocked the stuffing out of them. There was never going to be a coming back from that, not against that side.

Anyway, I guess that makes Citeh a shoo-in this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Feb 21 - 09:38 AM

Hi raggy I watched the whole match live. Yes they were poor. It has been been obvious that things are not right.

Last season they won the league for the first time in 38 years.

Roy Kean last night said " if they play like this, they will have to weight another 38 years. 2 !!!!!

I hope not, they are good to watch.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Feb 21 - 05:59 PM

The problem is "they" are a bunch of foreign footballers whereas, when we won the World Cup, it was still mostly locals in MEANINGFUL competition; or in WalkaboutsVerse "Reregulate"


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Feb 21 - 05:53 PM

I've only watched the highlights tonight so can't really comment on the game as a whole but Liverpool seemed inept, so many basic errors that I wondered if they had actually been champions last year.

They were champions, weren't they?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Feb 21 - 04:37 AM

"Suppose you'd won just 1-0. You wouldn't be bragging about your goals then! ;-)"

That is very true Steve but United didn't score just one they scored nine.


Very difficult fixture for Liverpool tomorrow, one that they must win to have any remote hope of winning the league again I feel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 02:23 PM

Hi Steve

I am aware about the problems with Southampton. I know that we wern't
playing against them but we had a job to do.

I am happy with United's performances and know that things can change.
We are inconsistent and we need to improve, or games like Sheffiend United will come to haunt us.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 11:59 AM

Don't let that 9-0 go to your head, Mike. The Southampton team were already severely depleted by injuries and they had ten men from the second minute and nine men for a lot of the second half. A couple of very dodgy decisions made a difference too (I'm not squabbling about the first dismissal, which was thoroughly deserved), not least the second sending off. Suppose you'd won just 1-0. You wouldn't be bragging about your goals then! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 10:34 AM

Hi Steve


I think United are changing their style. and are playing a more open game.

There is a wave of attacking youths. Nine Nil is NOT parking the bus,

We have won several games by coming up from behind against teams who have scored and " parked the bus,

Look at the League table,,,,,see who is scoring most.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 06:50 AM

I think you're right. As for embarrassed, that does Brighton a bit of a disservice. They are a lot better than their league position suggests, they are well-organised and they have a great manager. They defended well but didn't park the bus, always up for breaking out, which they did frequently. Man U could learn a lot from that. Parkers of the bus such as Man U and Spurs, sitting back against the big boys and hoping for the odd counter, are not only playing negative football but are in danger of pitching themselves into disarray if the opposition get a goal. Tactics shattered...

Several seasons ago Liverpool had a poor defence but won games by getting very quick goals early on. The opponents then simply have to come out and play. As I said, getting an early goal would have been a game-changer in several of their matches recently. They seem to have forgotten how to do it. This looks like Citeh's season. Note how they run games in a way that saves their energy. With all the problems Liverpool currently have, they're knackered.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 21 - 06:11 AM

H!
Guys...Watched Liverpool last night. Pool embarrassed by defeat by Brighton. Clop says they were tired.

well there are plenty more games coming up.

I think that this might be the end of winning the League.

cheers

mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 09:16 AM

Hi Raggy.

I watched Unit swallow up The Saints......

I too would love to see " When the Saints Go........Marching in.

I t was great for me to see United get into gear. But it was a shame for the Saints. They got away to a bad start that got worse every minute.

But we now are level with City we will have to Play like that to go to the top...and of course we want to keep Liverpool at bay.

Interesting ai'nt it ?????

cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Feb 21 - 08:14 AM

Arggg!!!!!

I could have watched last nights match on BT Sport, instead I had a ZOOM chat with a friend!

9-0 eh, good eh!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 03:09 PM

I'm interested enough to watch the game tonight, Mike. You should win it, but what a great night it would be for a Saints resurgence! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 10:19 AM

Overstated? Never! That was the goal of the season so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 02 Feb 21 - 09:22 AM

Hi Steve

A LITTLE OVER STATED ....BUT IT WAS A GOOD GOAL !!!!!

" hENDO" IS BINDING THE DEFENCE AND SORTING OUT THE MID FIELD.

tO THINK " fERGIE " TURNED HIM DOWN   ......

bUT THEN HE GOT BECS AND THE 92 MOB. yOU CAN'T WIN THEM ALL.

Going to watch United Tonight play SouHampton. Usually give United a run.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 06:43 PM

One hundred years from now, in the first human colony on the planet Mars, when there has been a three-month lockdown due to an outbreak of Martian bad-virus and the weather has been shit for weeks, non-stop planetary dust storms an' all that, the colonists will be watching footie repeats on their virtual doodah screens and thrilling again and again to see that second Liverpool goal. The repeat button will wear out. West Ham corner, bam. Trent gets ball, perfect 60-yard diagonal, bam. Shaq gets ball on left flank, 50 yards to go, hits it perfectly into box without taking a touch, bam. Mo controls ball with magical perfection, little flick to back of net, bam. Bloody beat that.

One other thing: in the last two games, in which Liverpool have been imperious, Hendo has been the pivot, the anchor-man, the leader of men. Please stay fit, Hendo...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 09:20 AM

HI Raggy

I wanted Mourinho to lose. Never can take to the man.

I am totally with you, can't stand the man. Tried to ruin United.

Nobody around here will say nothing but relief now he's gone.

cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 08:18 AM

...And it was a really good, entertaining game, just wot we pays our money to see. Liverpool have had trouble breaking down parked-bus defences in the last few games, whilst otherwise playing not too badly (apart from giving Rashford far too much space down the left flank for half the match). Ironic then that the breakthrough should come against the team managed by the bus-parker in chief. Noticeable that Spurs' teeth were drawn when Harry had to go off after "winning" two fouls (his modus operandi). Son looked like a little lost soul without him all through the second half. Be very afraid, rivals. By the way, the disallowing of the Salah goal was a travesty. Dier was wrestling Firmino, which led to the totally accidental handling by Bobby, which he couldn't avoid. A perfectly good goal, instead rewarded by giving Spurs a free kick! A collective groan emanates from thousands of Liverpool supporters every time Martin Atkinson is announced as the match ref. He always automatically plays for the other team. Worst bloody ref going...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Jan 21 - 06:54 AM

A much needed win for Liverpool last night. One I was quite pleased to see, not so much that I wanted Liverpool to win, more that I wanted Mourinho to lose. Never can take to the man.


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