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BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Raggytash 16 Jan 21 - 09:55 AM
Steve Shaw 14 Jan 21 - 06:36 AM
MikeL2 14 Jan 21 - 06:06 AM
Raggytash 13 Jan 21 - 10:18 AM
MikeL2 13 Jan 21 - 09:25 AM
Raggytash 12 Jan 21 - 05:56 PM
MikeL2 12 Jan 21 - 06:46 AM
Steve Shaw 08 Jan 21 - 08:00 PM
Steve Shaw 05 Jan 21 - 08:43 PM
Steve Shaw 05 Jan 21 - 04:30 PM
Steve Shaw 03 Jan 21 - 05:27 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Jan 21 - 11:45 AM
MikeL2 02 Jan 21 - 09:58 AM
The Sandman 02 Jan 21 - 08:26 AM
The Sandman 02 Jan 21 - 08:13 AM
Steve Shaw 02 Jan 21 - 07:14 AM
G-Force 02 Jan 21 - 07:09 AM
Raggytash 02 Jan 21 - 07:02 AM
MikeL2 02 Jan 21 - 06:28 AM
Steve Shaw 01 Jan 21 - 06:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 09:55 AM

I have a feeling that Liverpool will walk over United tomorrow, I think they have a point to prove.

I hope I am wrong but I'm not convinced that United are anything like to finished article.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:36 AM

City are the biggest threat now in m'humble. They are back on song and Pep is paying a lot more attention to defence. The game on Sunday is crucial for Liverpool, and they are NOT on song! I still think that Man U are a long way from the finished article, as with Spurs. Heavy reliance on your two or three best players can work for a while, but if one of 'em goes off the boil or gets injured... You wouldn't rate Man U's chances if Bruno was out for a couple of months, would you? But Ole is doing a grand job and seems to be getting Pogba purring. It's gotta be either Man U or Liverpool this season: no bloody oil club, and no way, José!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:06 AM

Hi Raggy

I agree we need acouple more top players.

It is nice to take the ride.

Minde you it's keeping the City and Liverpool members of our family quiet. !!!!!!

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 10:18 AM

Hi MikeL, I doubt very much that United can maintain the form that has seen them climb to the top of the table. However it does my heart good to see them there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 09:25 AM

Hi Raggy.

Last night Man United pushed Liverpool off the top Of the League.

They beat Burnley in a dour game . United wasted several chances until Pogba finished a superb goat from a Rashford cross.

United dominated the game preventing Burnley any chance of even getting
a of getting a shot in.

I hope we can do the same to Liver pool at the weekend.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 05:56 PM

Back where we belong!! Yeah!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 06:46 AM

hi Steve et al

Yes it was a great game. Both teams went for it and made a game that was great to watch.

We now have drawn Liverpool .....will the sparks fly ? or will they make a boring defensive game. We will see .....

Cheers

Mike......Just going for our "Jabs"

Makes a change to be Top of' the pile.....but as our Ages are
Eighty Five ( me ) And Eighty two ( Er indoors ) We got in quite quickly and at our own GP. Nice and convenient etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 21 - 08:00 PM

Don't want to go too hyper about this, but the FA Cup third round game at Villa tonight was a bloody wonderful moment for sport. Villa had to put out a total youth team after their first team, and most of the management, were floored by coronavirus issues. Klopp was respectful in putting out a really strong lineup. Milner, Gino, Hendo, Mo, Fab, Bobby, Thiago, Shaq, Minamino and Sadio were all on show. The young Villa lads (a few of them were so young that their dads had to drop them off at the ground, as many hadn't passed their driving tests yet) put in a helluva great first-half performance. Louie Barry, aged 17, humbled Liverpool with a superb equaliser just before half-time. How good was it to see the ref walking back to the circle after that goal, grinning at Louie like a bloody Cheshire Cat! The Liverpool greats really had to get their act together after the break to beat, but not humble, the Villa lads, and they did it (eventually) in a really good, friendly spirit (though, as ever, taking no prisoners). So respectful. What a brilliant night for sport. Yet we could easily be facing another footie lockdown...Hard times of old England... :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 08:43 PM

There's a lovely tribute to Colin Bell in the Guardian, written by Simon Hattenstone (clearly a fan of King Colin, but that's footy for ya!). Very googlable...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 04:30 PM

And now the great Colin Bell has died... :-(

Anyone remember the Bell-Waldron restaurant in Whitefield? I never dined there, but my mum knew Colin...

Colin Waldron, of Burnley FC fame, eventually opened a bookies in Nelson. None of yer millions a month in those days...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:27 PM

And Gerry...Aw, bugger... :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 11:45 AM

Sad to hear about Tommy Docherty the other day :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 09:58 AM

Hi Raggy

I couldn't agree more !!!! Pogba does nothing but cause trouble .

I know he can play IF HE Wants TO. But usually he just lumbers around.

He is not anything near to what he should be for his money!!!!!

Cheers

Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 08:26 AM

i meant defoe


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 08:13 AM

i predicted the blades would be releghated last year , i was a year earlyk, unless they can get a striker, maybe they should approach rangers about the wee fellow


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:14 AM

He's another Ballotelli, innit. Fergie would have offloaded him aeons ago. Liverpool's recent success is built around a whole-team ethos. No-one is irreplaceable but everyone is invaluable. Man U have got to get away from pinning their hopes on one or two (Bruno, for example). Spurs are currently making the same mistake with Son and Kane. The decline of Barca is solely because the ethic is whatever you do, get it to Messi...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:09 AM

I, for my sins, support Sheffield United. I think it's a real shame that a club who should never have been relegated (yah booh West Ham!), and who took so long to haul themselves back up from the lower divisions, and who looked so promising last season, are right back down the bottom again. I guess the other teams have just worked out how to play them. And they desperately need a decent goalscorer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:02 AM

I've said this before MikeL2 and I'll say it again.

Pogba has to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 06:28 AM

HI Steve And Raggy

Yes we have hit the T0P..... Phew....

It is something that we Man U supporters have been waiting for....too   Long.

I have watched both Liverpool and United recently and I think that United have improved

United have improved quite a lot while Liverpool have dropped off
somewhat.

I know we have a way to go but they can give it a real go.

I think there is some problems in the dressing room with some of their best players are involved.

Long way to go yet but I wait expectively......

All the best.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:32 PM

I'm from Radcliffe, which is a lot nearer to Bury, Bolton, Oldham and Rochdale than to Old Trafford, and in any case it's a tribal thing in me family. Man U won't win the league because they are far too immature as a team, they rely far too much on Pogba, Marcus and Bruno, and Ole can't seem to get the consistent best out of the likes of Martial. They're good but not good enough, not yet...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 05:58 PM

So only goal difference between Liverpool and Manchester United!

Who'd have thought it!!

I am not suggesting that I expect United to win the Premiership but I think it might put the wind up a few Scousers and those turncoats from Manchester who support the team.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 06:35 PM

Well many a pundit has said the same. But the seven today has wiped out Liverpool's less than ideal goal difference. Top goal scoring, best goal diff, top of the Christmas table. Be very afraid, Premier League...

And I'll tell you summat else. Every one of those seven goals was a gem. Deny that at your peril!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 05:42 PM

How often does a team score seven and ship seven in the same season?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 02:03 PM

That is, Palace nil, Liverpool seven. I need say no more!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 01:20 PM

7.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 01:20 PM

"anyway mr clever clogs,"

In what way am I being Mr Clever Clogs.

I said I couldn't find any reference to him playing in goal for England.

I cannot find any reference to him playing in goal for Preston either.

I didn't say he hadn't I said I could find no reference to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 12:57 PM

no i cannot find it at the momemt, i read it somewhere maybe its wrong ,anyway mr clever clogs, the point is he was versatile and played in different positions in an international career


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 09:18 AM

there is only ONE United, the other are the like of Cambridge, Rotherham, Carlisle and other similar lessor teams

Oh, come on, Manchester United are better than that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 07:05 AM

Can you provide any links to information about Tom Finney playing in goal for England.

Given that he wasn't a very tall man I would have thought that other outfield players would have been chosen before him.

I simply cannot find any reference to him playing in goal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 10:09 PM

Inotice that todays football has less tackling and less dribbling .
i believe that Finney played once as goalkeeper i think the regular goalkeeper had been injured.
Anyone care to guess why Raggytash is like a bear with a sore head


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 05:26 PM

Anyone care to guess why he is shouting?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 04:55 PM

WHAT I NOTICE WAS THE AMOUNT OF DRIBBLING IN THE 1950S COMPARED TO TODAY


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 04:26 PM

Oh G force there is only ONE United, the other are the like of Cambridge, Rotherham, Carlisle and other similar lessor teams


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 01:49 PM

Which one is 'United'?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 09:50 AM

hi

Iwatched Man United beat Sheffield United last night. Good to watch United swing the ball around ,,,,,,,but oh Dear ,,,,,,,,what about that defence ....?????

it needs better than this.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:12 PM

When I was 13 I was picked for the Thornleigh under-14 cricket team. One day we played Preston Catholic College at their school. I scored 29, the second-highest score of the season, and I was eventually out LBW (it was an unjust decision in m'humble, delivered by their sports teacher) after they'd used ten different bowlers against me. Also in the match I ran one of their lads out with a mighty throw from the square leg boundary, hitting the one stump directly. We won. It got me a mention in the annual school magazine. It was possibly the greatest day of my life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 02:05 PM

My Father who was born in Preston always spoke very highly of Sir Tom Finney.

I believe Tom played Left Wing, Inside Left, Centre Forward, Inside Right and Right Wing for England.

I have to say I was unaware he had ever played Goalkeeper and to date have been unable to find any reference to this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 09:22 AM

Tom Finney was slightly before my time, but my dad always said that he was the greatest. My boyhood hero was Jimmy McIlroy. Tribalism prohibits me from considering anyone who played for Man U. :-) As for the greatest of all, pick from Pele, Maradona and Messi. In m'humble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:13 AM

hi Sandman I Agree whith your commemts re. Tom Finny ect.

I think Georgie Best is the best I have seen.

Pity about the drinking....but hey ho....that's life.

Cheers

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:08 AM

hi stev. congrats on the Spurs game. Best Game I have watches for some time.

Clop realy upset Mourino Ha Ha .

WE Play today in what apears th be an easy game........ but with United these days Who Knows...???

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 05:46 AM

the preston plumber tom finney played centre forward left wing right wing and goalkeeper for england,
then we havent mentioned pele or george best


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 01:23 AM

Maradonna was not the bes, could he play in different positions. Tom Finney could, then we hqve to consider messi, stan matthews,ronaldo jimmy greaves bobby charlton


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Dec 20 - 07:38 PM

Well what a match at Anfield. Edge of seat stuff from start to finish, with Bobby Firmino polishing off Spurs with a devastating header. Huge!

I got this on Amazon Prime by the way, on a 30-day free trial. There are no catches. And I got the free trial even though I had one last year!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 10:21 AM

Well I suppose that the outcome of that game was just about fair. A few years ago the penalty would never have been given. It was as soft as you like - AND there was no clear and obvious error. A few years ago Mo would not have been given offside. And the ref gave a Brighton player a yellow card for a foul that clearly wasn't a foul. Liverpool went on to score from the ensuing free kick but the goal was correctly judged to have been offside. Technically, all the decisions went the right way in the end. But the technology is seriously getting in the way of the game, and the ref didn't exactly help. I want a game played by human beings refereed by a human being.

And I fully agree with Jurgen about the Wednesday night-Saturday morning issue. It isn't fair on the club and it's dangerous for the players. The broadcasters are calling all the shots and the well-being of the the players comes a poor second.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 08:54 AM

hi steve

long time no see

Yes the football World will miss him

Just watching Liverpool v Brighton.

Brighton will rue their missed chances . including penalty .

They are suffering somewhat lately.

Man U very poor at the moment but have made a couple of good perform ences lately.

Liverpool Just scored.

Stay safe

Mike


Cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Nov 20 - 12:16 PM

Maradona gone. Damn. He was a rogue but he was the best. :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM

And coverage of tonight's 'friendly' match is about to start:

What time is England v Wales kick-off?
England v Wales kicks off at 8pm on Thursday, October 8.

Is England v Wales on TV?
Yes, the game will be screened live on S4C. Coverage begins at 7.30pm.

It will also be broadcast live on ITV1. Coverage on that channel also starts 30 minutes before kick-off.

Two channels as the commentating will be available in two languages.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Oct 20 - 11:30 AM

High G Force

Thanks for opening this topic.

As a longtime Man United supporter I am still astonished by the by the players' lack of dedication etc.

I was also amazed by Liverpool's performance....if it were possible they were worse !!!!.

Serious changes will have to be made. Liverpool have the squad to put them back to to to.

I fear that Man United will be going the other way......
I don't think the transfers were good enough to make much improvement.

No doubt that Steve will have his view. .....

cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 06 Oct 20 - 09:10 AM

This thread has gone a bit quiet lately. But with Manchester United and Liverpool both losing by five goal margins, I would have thought someone would have something to say.

Not me though, I'm a lifelong Sheffield United supporter, I'm keeping quiet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 02:42 PM

"Parking the bus" is a team putting ALL their players in a defensive roll. Not, or rarely, venturing out of their own half, not trying to score a goal, merely preventing the opposing team from scoring.

Boring as hell if you have to suffer watching such a match.


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