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BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything

Stu 13 Oct 17 - 07:59 AM
akenaton 13 Oct 17 - 07:49 AM
DMcG 13 Oct 17 - 07:47 AM
akenaton 13 Oct 17 - 07:44 AM
DMcG 13 Oct 17 - 07:41 AM
Donuel 13 Oct 17 - 07:40 AM
Keith A of Hertford 13 Oct 17 - 07:28 AM
Big Al Whittle 13 Oct 17 - 07:21 AM
Donuel 13 Oct 17 - 07:06 AM
Steve Shaw 13 Oct 17 - 06:53 AM
akenaton 13 Oct 17 - 06:47 AM
akenaton 13 Oct 17 - 06:33 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Stu
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:59 AM

"most hollywood women made their deal with the devil"

Blaming the victim? That's big of you, and not untypical of the old white mysoginist we seem to lumbered with in our society, and who seem to proliferate on this forum these days. Reprehensible.



"Sex to males is primarily a driver of behaviour, to most women sex is a means to an end."

You do talk some utter shite. It's this sort of unreconstructed and ignorant nastiness that is to blame for this debacle. This is really not nice even by your lowest homophobic, facist standards.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:49 AM

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You see hypocritical virtue in the silence surrounding spousal abuse.

If your focus is abuse you might agree with accusers, if your focus is a different agenda you might agree with Al."

Could you please explain this Don, your precise meaning is unclear.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:47 AM

A rather cynical quote from Evita:

There is noone, noone at all
Never has been, and never will be a lover, male or female
Who hasn't an eye on, in fact they rely on
Tricks they can try on their partner
They're hoping their lover will help them or keep them
Support them, promote them
Don't blame them, you're the same


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:44 AM

"So you’re saying that all women have sex in their armoury as a potent weapon. Shows how much you know about sex. Of course, you’ve demonstrated that here many times before."

Well Steve I didn't actually say that, but your remarks indicate that you have very little understanding of human nature.
Sex to males is primarily a driver of behaviour, to most women sex is a means to an end. This applies to all animals not just humans.
I could go on to discuss this subject at length, but I doubt the thread will last another couple of hours. I can give many examples none of which would attempt to excuse rape or forced sexual intercourse, the law must be upheld even against natural urges..


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:41 AM

There's a lot of hypocrisy in general anout this. While this is an extreme example, I hope, which of us did not think this sort of thing happened?


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:40 AM

You see hypocritical virtue in the silence surrounding spousal abuse.

If your focus is abuse you might agree with accusers, if your focus is a different agenda you might agree with Al.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:28 AM

There was a lot of hypocritical virtue signalling at the Oscars from people who knew about this but chose to collude in the conspiracy of silence.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:21 AM

nah! its not that. its just all so weird.

Someone says -oh yeh! he's well known for it. the stories are legion. Could you get to the point where you're pitching a script and not know of his reputation.

Then someone else comes on all Doris Day - - oh gosh gee! you don't really want me to do that...

And the you have people like Alan Parker says - my working week is criss crossing continents begging people to fund my films..
And there's this guy supposedly doling out money from his office in Hollywood.

If you don't smell a rodent in the machine.....


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 07:06 AM

So you want to be an ingénue Big Al?

A Weinstein apologist right here on Mudcat?

The only reason there are such creatures like Cosby apologists, or Harvey the Hut supporters is because they are either envious of sex abusers or harbor deep seated hatred.

While innocent until proven guilty I would wear gloves when they DNA test that casting couch.

the word plaything sums up the authors attitude toward his prey.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 06:53 AM

So you’re saying that all women have sex in their armoury as a potent weapon. Shows how much you know about sex. Of course, you’ve demonstrated that here many times before.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 06:47 AM

Sorry Al cross posted, but I'm afraid your writing contains too much common sense and truth to be widely accepted here.

Prepare for the onslaught.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 06:33 AM

Outrage? I'm afraid this is an extremely complicated subject with its roots in the type of society we have become.

I have been talking to a friend who managed popular music performers in the seventies and eighties, and he tells another different tale.
Sex, as all women know can be an extremely potent weapon.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 06:32 AM

i love the way there is never a shred of scepticism.

this is an industry where images of women are routinely bartered down to the lowest common denominator. One suspects they teach that at script writing school.

most hollywood women made their deal with the devil - accepting its gross standards many years before they get to meet someone as important as Weinstein.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 05:59 AM

At first I thought this issue was going to be a tabloidistic Hollywood celebrity bubble thing. I’m really glad to see how it’s becoming an issue that’s highlighting something a lot more widespread and about which there is nowhere near enough outrage.


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Subject: RE: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Stu
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 05:54 AM

So it's OK to joke about the abuse of women? I pray there is a cultural reference here I am misconstruing.


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Subject: BS: if I'd been Weinstein's sexual plaything
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 05:40 AM

I could order Martin strings (coated) two dozen srts at a time - getting a good discount


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