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BS: You say tomato...

Max 26 Mar 16 - 11:01 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Mar 16 - 09:23 AM
Greg F. 26 Mar 16 - 09:20 AM
Greg F. 26 Mar 16 - 09:17 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 16 - 09:03 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 26 Mar 16 - 08:53 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 16 - 08:48 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 16 - 08:24 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Mar 16 - 07:21 AM
GUEST,raccoon 26 Mar 16 - 06:40 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Mar 16 - 06:17 AM
GUEST,raccoon 26 Mar 16 - 12:19 AM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 07:30 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 07:16 PM
Musket 25 Mar 16 - 06:56 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 06:33 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 06:31 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 06:30 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 06:27 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 06:15 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 06:03 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 06:00 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 05:56 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 05:49 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 05:45 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 05:13 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 04:57 PM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 16 - 04:28 PM
Musket 25 Mar 16 - 12:46 PM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 11:51 AM
MGM·Lion 25 Mar 16 - 11:00 AM
Steve Shaw 25 Mar 16 - 10:23 AM
Musket 25 Mar 16 - 04:18 AM
Backwoodsman 25 Mar 16 - 04:06 AM
GUEST,Eliza 25 Mar 16 - 03:47 AM
Musket 25 Mar 16 - 03:38 AM
GUEST,Eliza 25 Mar 16 - 03:15 AM
GUEST,Eliza 25 Mar 16 - 03:08 AM
GUEST 25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM
Backwoodsman 25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM
Backwoodsman 25 Mar 16 - 12:27 AM
Steve Shaw 24 Mar 16 - 11:12 PM
GUEST,smoke trails 24 Mar 16 - 10:52 PM
Bill D 24 Mar 16 - 10:31 PM
GUEST,smoke trails 24 Mar 16 - 09:34 PM
Tradsinger 24 Mar 16 - 05:52 PM
Bill D 24 Mar 16 - 05:39 PM
Backwoodsman 24 Mar 16 - 05:01 PM
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Steve Shaw 24 Mar 16 - 04:23 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Max
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 11:01 AM

Wow. Great thread.

/sarcasm

Twits.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 09:23 AM

I know, Greg, but thanks for making it clear to others:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 09:20 AM

Not you, Dave.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 09:17 AM

And another temper tantrum thrown by a two year old unfolds in all its majesty.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 09:03 AM

"suddenly become acceptably" ...

And learn to control your adverbs, ignorant little booby!


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 08:53 AM

Michael, you can be and frequently are an obnoxious little ****. Things that you complain about in other posters suddenly become acceptably when you do them. Dual standards seem to be the only one's you adhere to. Why not just give it a rest and as Dave so eloquently says **** off.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 08:48 AM

"How can I make it any simpler?" ······

You can't. Why should you try. Perfect epitome of your no-doubt customary mode of thought and expression, O-thou-gnomically-noxious-nonentity.

Do you kiss your wife with that filthy foul mouth?

What a vomit-inducing speculation!

☠☠☠·☺☺☺·☠☠☠


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 08:24 AM

☞〠☜


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 07:21 AM

How can I make it any simpler? Michael, fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,raccoon
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 06:40 AM

Wouldn't want my last word to be that word - don't think that'd be good at all...


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 06:17 AM

So 'off' is the last word, idiot

I know I promised to eff·off when Gnomititz had his last word but now raccoon has spoilt it for him.

Please all of you let him have it, it means such a lot to the poor little presh·presh·darling

P'raps he might even be the reincarnation of one or other of my mas-in-law at that


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,raccoon
Date: 26 Mar 16 - 12:19 AM

Tupac Shakur's last word(s)


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 07:30 PM

You can't count either. Two words. Fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 07:16 PM

Blimey -- an even bigger -aching bore.

Oh -- 2nd look: it's only the silly old Popguns -- why, they don't even count, do they?

How do I know -- why, Nursey told me of course. She knows everything better than that silly lot of - ah - feminine generative organs...

And they have no biznis to spoil poor ickle Gnomy's fun. How often have I got to say that he has got to have the very last word, coz it so obviously means such a lot to him.

When he's had it, then I promise I really will

FUCK OFF!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:56 PM

Nurse! Get him to fuck off back to bed will you?


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:33 PM

Yep. Now will you fuck off?


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:31 PM

...with just the enquiry as to whether you have any idea just what a ☯☯big>-aching bore UR.................


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:30 PM

???

Fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:27 PM

As Inspector Jack Frost was wont to exclaim when his staff were a bit slow to leave the station after one of his briefings --

"Are you still 'ere!"

Respond, please; and I will then, I promise, leave you with the last word.

I can see how much it means to you, Darling-


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:15 PM

You know, for someone who pretends to be clever you can be really thick at times. Which bit of fuck off is so difficult to understand?


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:03 PM

Anyhow, as they say

Styx.'n'.Jagger&Richards


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:00 PM

... or perhaps you will insist on having it, under the chimerical delusion that you are my m-i-l at that: in which case, someone please send urgently for the men in the white coats...


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:56 PM

... et tu quoque, O Light Of My Life and Darling Of My

& you don't have to have the last word, you know. You're not my mother-in-law...


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:49 PM

Good. Stop talking complete bollocks and fuck off then.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:45 PM

A thoroughly gnomic utterance, to be sure!

Oh, I think I can survive such an assault on my integrity, my dear little fellow. I will, however, take leave to add that, although I long since took the resolution not to indulge in such locutions on this revered forum despite the customary usages of some of the less refined, such as your goodself for instant instance, I do not think nevertheless that the formulation tu quoque would be entirely out of place, or in breach of that resolve.

Best regards azzevva

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:13 PM

Fair enough, Michael. In which case you will not mind one iota when I tell you to fuck off?


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 04:57 PM

It had frequently been established that the fact that one might have OPd a thread gives one no authority to dictate as to the path it is to follow. So don't tell me what is 'the whole point of the thread', if you don't mind, DtG. I shall decide which aspects of the topic I choose to address. If that doesn't suit your notions, tough-ɷ !


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 04:28 PM

The whole point of the thread, Michael, is supposed to be a humourous look at the differences between UK and US English. I know you enjoy having a go at Musket at every opportunity but you are not just wide of the mark with your incicive wit here. You are in a different shooting gallery.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 12:46 PM

Rule Britannia!

^%#ing quisling.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 11:51 AM

'face' not 'faith'


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 11:00 AM

"It's either maths or mathematics. I kept telling you."
.,,.,.

Keep telling us till you're blue in the faith, Popsicle -- & very funny you'll look. But it's 'maths' over here & 'math' over there, for all your foolishly assertive insularity: just as it's 'honour' here & 'honor' there; 'aluminium' here & 'aluminum' there; 'tap' here and 'faucet' there...

Probably no use telling you, tho. None so deaf, as they say...

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 10:23 AM

Dunno about Mr Shitter's first name being John. I'd have thought Jake...


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 04:18 AM

Reminds me of when the late lamented Joseph Anthony Capstick (with quite a few Irish in the audience) decided to tell an Irish joke anyway.. The joke was somewhat forgettable but a lovely aside where he had a character exclaim "Jayzuz!" To which he added "Which is odd because most of them are called Michael."


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 04:06 AM

The Irish have always been 'Paddies' or 'Micks' round my neck of the woods. Never heard them described as 'bog-trotters'.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 03:47 AM

I've never come across 'bog trotter' for Irish either. They were usually called Paddies in West London where I grew up.
(My mother was one!)
And we always called the lavatory the loo. But the boys at school used to refer to the 'bogs' (the lavatory block)


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 03:38 AM

Ok, what the flying is "math?"

It's either maths or mathematics. I kept telling you.

Tsk.

I'd never heard "bog trotter" and for the life of me wouldn't equate it as meaning Irish. The land around where I live was reclaimed by ditches and gulleys a few hundred years ago and we refer to parts that don't drain well as bogs. You wouldn't call the shit house a bog in polite company but between mates, that is what it is.

AND you can't make a cup of tea.
AND a curry should have a taste to it.
AND you call that coffee?
AND breakfast cereal isn't supposed to be 99% sugar
AND taking people at face value gets you nowhere.

Right! Any French people reading this? Your turn next! Form an orderly queue. (Not that you have ever tried.)


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 03:15 AM

I took classes once in British Sign Language, and in those days the sign for 'Irish' was, believe it or not, flicking an imaginary flea from your shoulder!! I was insulted to say the least (I'm half Irish)
Nowadays, BSL is more politically correct, and the sign for Irish is tapping the back of your hand with the crooked index and middle fingers of the other hand.
To return slightly to this thread, it's a shame that American Sign Language is different to BSL. We can't even use the same vocab when signing!


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 03:08 AM

Perhaps Mr Shitter's first name was 'John'.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM

So who was Shitter, because a lot of bogs are named after him as well ?


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM

Well what a bugger I, aided and abetted by a spell-checker which has never heard of 'siphonic', made of that. Let's try again...

Interesting stuff about the siphonic flushing toilet, Thomas Crapper, and the origins of the word 'crap' here....


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 12:27 AM

interesting stuff about the siphon if flushing here....
toilet, Thomas Crapper, and the origins of the word 'crap'


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 11:12 PM

Bog-trotters is not in especially common use as a pejorative for Irish people. I can imagine that bog for toilet originated in the days when the cesspit was all too open and visible, bog-like in appearance, and was deemed at least as treacherously squelchy as a real bog if you happened to find yourself in it. Just a guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,smoke trails
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 10:52 PM

The House of Lords

WWII G.Is called it the crapper


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 10:31 PM

do the math? Ok... if you say so.... but nothing tells me WHY they call the Irish that and the origin of 'bog' as a euphemism. Sometimes origins are lost after everyone gets the reference.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,smoke trails
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 09:34 PM

and I have no idea what a 'bog' is...

The English call the Irish -Bog Trotters-
and their toilets -bogs-,
do the math


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Tradsinger
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 05:52 PM

The differences between American and British English have been amusing people for many decades. My favourite [NB spelling] Americanism is "This aircraft will be airborne momentarily" which can sound alarming to British ears. Unfortunately, the linguistic trade between the UK and the USA is mainly one-way, i.e. from West to East, and we over here have been absorbing 'Americanisms' for years to the extent that we no longer regard them as Americanisms.

I [a Brit] worked in the States for several months and had no trouble at all in communication. I was wrong-footed once in the office when I was asked to put a certain document in the 'bin' [US = tray, UK = wastebasket.] but apart from that, no probs.

The linguistics of English are very complex, with non-native business people developing a sort of business English lingua franca which they readily understand but where English native speakers can rock the boat with idioms that non-native speakers don't 'get'. What would a non-native speaker make of "Are you having me on?" for example.

Anyway, I say let's rejoice in our linguistic biodiversity and let the Brits continue to laugh at American English - and vice versa.

Cheers

Tradsinger


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 05:39 PM

'anaesthetist' ... I hear that as often as the long word. I really prefer it shorter.

But euphemisms are beyond help . Our grocery shelves are full of "bath tissue"...argghh..
I want to write to a couple of the manufacturers and complain.."Say, I tried your bath tissue, and it immediately fell apart and ruined my bath!"
It's plain, simple **toilet paper**.... (and I have no idea what a 'bog' is, even though I get the reference.)

""... you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect."

Now now, be a little kind. Allow them to make this change gradually.
"

And just who is gonna change the 279,368,081 signs? (You are outnumbered world-wide on that, also.)


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 05:01 PM

"the stuff between bricks is mortar.

LynnT
stacker of drystone walls"


It is indeed, according to the dictionary, 'mortar', but in the Backwoods where I live, the brickies call it 'Gobbo'. The plasterers also call plaster-mix 'Gobbo'. It's the quaint local patois, tha knaws. 👍😄

Backwoodsman,
Friend, acquaintance and employer of a number of brickies and plasterers during his almost 50 years of home-ownership.


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 04:33 PM

If Lynne is into dry stone walling, why the fascination with mortar?

I reckon there's a bloke in our village gradually deciding which side to drive on...


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Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 16 - 04:23 PM

"... you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect."

Now now, be a little kind. Allow them to make this change gradually.


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