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BS: Qu: Regarding Religion

Keith A of Hertford 01 Mar 16 - 06:34 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 01 Mar 16 - 05:39 AM
GUEST,Dave 01 Mar 16 - 05:36 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Mar 16 - 05:34 AM
Steve Shaw 01 Mar 16 - 05:33 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 01 Mar 16 - 05:31 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Mar 16 - 05:30 AM
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Keith A of Hertford 01 Mar 16 - 05:05 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 01 Mar 16 - 04:50 AM
MGM·Lion 01 Mar 16 - 04:45 AM
MGM·Lion 01 Mar 16 - 04:35 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 01 Mar 16 - 04:32 AM
Steve Shaw 01 Mar 16 - 04:14 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Mar 16 - 03:55 AM
Jim Carroll 01 Mar 16 - 02:54 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Mar 16 - 02:34 AM
GUEST,Musket 01 Mar 16 - 02:22 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 29 Feb 16 - 07:45 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 06:34 AM

Rag, it has always been understood as "do no murder" since Moses.
The Israelites were constantly at war.

There is no indication in the New Testament that it is unjust, immoral, or inappropriate for secular civil governments to execute those guilty of shedding innocent blood.[52]

Like the Old Testament, the New Testament seems to depict the lawful use of force by soldiers in legitimate battles as justified.[53] The profession of soldier is used as a metaphor by Paul exhorting the Ephesians to "put on the full armor of God."[54] Cornelius, the Roman centurion, is portrayed as a righteous and God-fearing man.[55] Jesus praises the faith of a Roman centurion on the occasion of healing the centurion's servant, and states that he has not found such great faith even in Israel.[56] When John the Baptist was preaching repentance and baptizing penitent sinners in the Jordan river, soldiers came to John and asked for specific instructions regarding their repentance.John the Baptist did not demand that the soldiers renounce their profession, instead he exhorted them to be content with their pay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:39 AM

As I said earlier there are no provisos in "Thou shalt not kill"


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:36 AM

Thats a massive cop-out Keith. Of course he would heal the daughter of a centurion, he would even heal the centurion himself I believe, but that does not mean that he had no objection to him being a centurion. "Love your enemies", didn't he say that? Religion is often invoked as a defence of nationalism, but the consistent Christian position is in my view theQuaker one.

You are right in your earlier post of course that plenty of atheists have been violent murderers too.

Michael, I think that all of your examples are ones in which religion is commandeered as a justification for violence whose real motivation is a thirst for power. ISIS, thats another matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:34 AM

Quite right Rag.
Well spotted.
It was referenced in my last post anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:33 AM

Michael, I will thank you for not misrepresenting what I said. You truncated my remark by starting the quote "people in history" when what I actually typed was "many people in history". Stop pretending you're Keith for a minute, will you.

Keith, ask a hundred Christians what the fifth commandment is. If they don't all say "thou shalt not kill" I'll eat my hat. "Usually translated as do no murder" my arse. As for healing the daughter of a centurion, well she wasn't the centurion, and several other considerations besides. For example, the fact that he didn't do it. Even if he had done, at least he wasn't clinging to the tenet that the sins of the father are visited upon the daughter. Complicated stuff, this biblical morality. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:31 AM

PS: I thought it was a centurions servant. Luke 7-9 ESV


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:30 AM

Wiki,

"Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), You shall not murder (Hebrew לֹא תִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) or You shall not kill (KJV), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17.

The imperative is against unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.[2] The Hebrew Bible contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also allows for justified killing in the context of warfare, capital punishment, and self-defense."

The New Testament is in agreement that murder is a grave moral evil,[44] and maintains the Old Testament view of bloodguilt.[45] Jesus himself repeats and expands upon the commandment, "Do not murder."[46] The New Testament depicts Jesus as explaining that murder, as well as other sins, comes from the heart.

For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

— Matthew 15:19 (NIV)
The New Testament acknowledges the just and proper role of civil government in maintaining justice[47] and punishing evildoers, even to the point of "bearing the sword."[48]

Like the Old Testament, the New Testament seems to depict the lawful use of force by soldiers in legitimate battles as justified.[53] The profession of soldier is used as a metaphor by Paul exhorting the Ephesians to "put on the full armor of God."[54] Cornelius, the Roman centurion, is portrayed as a righteous and God-fearing man.[55] Jesus praises the faith of a Roman centurion on the occasion of healing the centurion's servant, and states that he has not found such great faith even in Israel.[56] When John the Baptist was preaching repentance and baptizing penitent sinners in the Jordan river, soldiers came to John and asked for specific instructions regarding their repentance. John the Baptist did not demand that the soldiers renounce their profession, instead he exhorted them to be content with their pay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:27 AM

Ahem ...... No, the 5th (or sometimes 6th) commandment states quite clearly "Thou shalt not kill" Full stop, no proviso's included.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 05:05 AM

It is usually translated as do no murder Rag.
Jesus had no objection to people being serving soldiers. He healed the daughter of a Centurion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 04:50 AM

Funny that Michael, I thought it was one of the 10 commandments.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 04:45 AM

"thou shalt not kill" .. a basic tenet of Christianity".

No it isn't Raggy — or there would never have been the Holy Office [aka Spanish Inquisition], Crusades, Reformation/Counter-Reformation with concomitant burnings & hangings, Salem witch trials ...

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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 04:35 AM

"people in history have been killed in the name of religion but that very few actually have been killed because of their religion. There has nearly always been another reason".
.,,.

This seems to me perhaps an oversimplified dichotomy. Surely both sides of this equation are generally present, but in varying proportions. Certain Islamic polities will nowadays execute people for converting to another religion, for instance. Are not both a religious and a politically ideological element involved in such occasions? The same is surely true of all such goings-on, from Christians-to-the-Lions to the Crusades to the Holocaust, Intifada, 6-Day-War....?

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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 04:32 AM

I might be wrong in this but I cannot recall any of the people on the list saying "thou shalt not kill" which is a basic tenet of Christianity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 04:14 AM

There's a gulf of difference between killing people in the name of atheism and killing people because they're atheists. In fact, I don't recall any of your hit-list ever saying that they were coming to get you because you're not an atheist like me. Dictators with expansionist notions kill people to gain even more territory and power. Religion is the veneer of respectability they attempt to cover themselves with in order to convince their own side that what they're doing is right. My view is that many people in history have been killed in the name of religion but that very few actually have been killed because of their religion. There has nearly always been another reason. I dislike all organised religions but if I want to find sticks to beat them with I can find plenty without resorting to dishonesty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Atheist Ideologies.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 03:55 AM

Does anyone have any idea how many people have been killed in the name of atheist ideologies, and imposing those ideologies on neighbouring people, and their own.

Some significant names from 20th Century would be Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 02:54 AM

"Evidence??...Just look how they are treated in Mudcat!!"
You mean disagreed with - tsk-tsk what a shower of inhuman bastards we are!!
Perhaps you might like to provide examples where it has been suggested that anybody has suggested we should lynch or harm in any way, Christians, or ny other religious group - no? - thought not!!
Haven't been to a good lynching for years.
It is rabble-rousers like your good self who bring about lynchings and persecution
Christians, as with all religion, are persecutors and potential persecutors in the name of their various beliefs and superstitions.
I respect Joe for much he has to say - I do not respect his defence of a church that has done the damage it is done, and is continuing to do - not even when he reduces that defence to "what they say isn't important any more - go and count that many thousands of failies and individuals that have been tainted because of widespread - world-wide, it transpires - clerical abuse.
Or the effects the church is still having on over-population, or sexually transmitted diseases, or the lives off homosexuals,or the education of our children..... or all the other ills of the world that the church still has its grubby hands on.
If you believe that discussion and criticism of that is "lynching", you live in a strange, disturbed world.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 02:34 AM

Oh, just look at the responses to 'pete of 7**'...even Joe Offer has had some 'belittling replies'.....not to mention attacks by YOU, Greg F., Steve Shaw just to mention a few....and though I'm not promoting any particular 'religion', I also get flak, if I comment on 'God', in response to somebody's semi-literate diatribe on the subject...and frankly, I can't believe you are pretending to playing being ignorant regarding this!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 02:22 AM

Anybody who says they have a faith isn't treated in any way differently to anyone else Goofus. I don't recall any post by anyone to that end.

I do however see what happens when reality is scorned by people pushing superstition or claiming in debate the certainty of impossible things. I for one really lace into the concept of religious organisations trying to control communities or demanding respect whilst abusing vulnerable children and adults.

No. You confuse personal need for a comfort blanket with the rotten corruption that convinces feeble minds of its importance in life.

Nothing to do with any ideology or political outlook. It's god botherers who try to introduce their sky pixies to politics, not normal people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 07:45 PM

Jim Carroll: "Are you really suggesting thAt liberals want to lynch Christians
Do you have nay evidence of this."

Evidence??...Just look how they are treated in Mudcat!!

...but, you're right: "Takes all sorts to make a discussion forum - I suppose."

First it starts with 'talk'...and gathering from the 'talk' on here, there is a disproportionate amount of animosity towards Christians on here...from there it escalates...and do we really need that??

There was a time in Germany, that the 'hate rhetoric' was aimed at the Jews...I think it escalated, don't you think?

I may not...no I'll change that, I DO not agree with a lot of the tenants of a whole lot of 'religions'...and unless someone WANTS to discus it, I'll hold forth...but not at all like the ATTACKS, accusations, attempts to discredit, and baiting to close the thread that goes on within predominately 'liberal' groups, as in here.

I'm having a hard time believing that you are not aware of that....so your next post(or someone else's) will be a smear tactic...or maybe she'll just close the thread....which SHOULD be your clue!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 07:24 PM

"It's a hate group..you know, like how 'liberals' feel towards Christian 'religions'.."
Are you really suggesting thAt liberals want to lynch Christians
Do you have nay evidence of this?
Takes all sorts to make a discussion forum - I suppose
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 04:00 PM

Plenty of liberals feel very positively towards Christian religions, and are indeed part of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: mg
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:46 PM

please follow what is going on regarding australian cardinal and abuse survivors and testimony in rome. absolutely profound implications for catholic church. much will be exposed i think, including absolute incompetence, narcissism, criminal orientation of higherups, in terms of thumbing their noses..their ontologically altered noses..at the law.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:30 PM

Dave, the KKK is a 'White Supremacist' group, mostly in the South, who hates blacks, and was known for lynching them, among other forms of persecuting them. Just Google 'KKK'...you'll get a disgusting insight.

It's a hate group..you know, like how 'liberals' feel towards Christian 'religions'.....you know, like the Chi-Com feel towards the Tibetan monks...

Musket: "Corporate backers..."

Yeah, the guys who own the media, and the 'party bosses...and about everything you think. They want control of both the money and property, while they remain at the top, and control it all....while pretending it's all 'political'.

BTW, Do you think those guys live like YOU or I do???...or have any plans to do so???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:08 PM

Not a clue GfS, whole lot is completely over my head. I know nothing of this Alabama or KKK of which you write. Not my country mate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:08 PM

Corporate backers... Good old Goofus. We make allowances for foreigners you know..

Your sincerely

Musket

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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:00 PM

Sorry??...You got your question answered, didn't you?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 02:47 PM

Sorry guys, I seem to have inadvertently left the door unlocked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 02:21 PM

Dave: "Why is it that some people, seeing a perfectly good thread on religion, can't resist trying to get it closed down by introducing the subject of sex."

Because their corporate backers find certain 'religions' a threat to their agendas. They hide it behind 'politics'.

One thing I find rather hypocritical, is that while the 'so-called liberals' love to scream 'racism' and 'bigot', basing it on the part of the Constitution that guarantees 'equality'....they look the other way, when it comes to 'creed'...as in race, CREED or color. They hopped on the bandwagon and venerate Martin Luther King....but stop up their ears, and close their eyes that REVEREND Martin Luther King began his message, FROM HIS PULPIT, in the Dexter Avenue BAPTIST Church in Montgomery, Alabama, and later helped found the Southern CHRISTIAN Leadership Conference (SCLC) in 1957, serving as its first president.

A lot of the phony 'so-called liberals' jump aboard...NOT because of any sense of compassion towards blacks, but because they wanted to 'belong' to something, as a way of recognition for something...ANYTHING...and what they became was the moral equivalent of the KKK of the '60's and 70's when anyone posts a post regarding 'religion'. They will denigrate them, try to discredit them, mock them, change the subject, and try in essence to get the thread closed down....and frankly how a person feels to regard 'God', in any of the concepts, within their own minds, is really NONE of their business!!

But it bugs them. They have to stomp it out...and can't even come up with a good reason why!! They coddle the blacks(and a lot of them don't even know very many of them that they call 'friends'...but just because it is a 'cause' that they can pretend to 'feel important', about.

Some folks may have differences with certain denominations...and certain denominations have brought some of that upon themselves..but the way they are treated, BY those who don't have the foggiest idea of what they are talking about, is, as I said before, the moral equivalent of the KKK!!!

They LOVE to spout Vladimir Lenin...except this one:
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the Russian revolutionary who founded Bolshevism which became Soviet Communism, said, "I made a mistake. Without doubt, an oppressed multitude had to be liberated. But our method only provoked further oppression and atrocious massacres. My living nightmare is to find myself lost in an ocean of red with the blood of innumerable victims. It is too late now to alter the past, but what was needed to save Russia were ten Francis of Assisi's" (Letters on Modern Atheism)."

But the history only teaches us that man NEVER learns from history!!!

...and the passage from the Constitution, of which the 'so-called liberals' about 'equality', is based of the Judaeo/Christian concept which the Constitution is based on!!..Thought they will stupidly argue, and beg to differ...but they are WRONG!!

"Wash one's mind of Judaeo Christian connection…it does not exist..it is a trap millions are falling into".

OR you can make the same mistake Lenin chased..until he wised up!!
(See Lenin's quote above).

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 12:38 PM

I prefer missionary, although you need less room playing doggies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 11:52 AM

We're running out of room, cremation only 


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 11:34 AM

"I had visions of you illicitly dossing all night in the crypt"
How date you? - d'you think I have no respect for consecrated ground?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 11:33 AM

Why is it that some people, seeing a perfectly good thread on religion, can't resist trying to get it closed down by introducing the subject of sex.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 11:20 AM

Thank Christ for that. I had visions of you illicitly dossing all night in the crypt then indulging in further, er, illicitry before the early morning shift. My mind has ceased to boggle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 10:02 AM

Very much pm
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 09:51 AM

am or pm Jim?


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 07:03 AM

July 4th 1963 at 6-30 in the crypt of Liverpool's Catholic Cathedral
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 06:32 AM

Nah, it was the 7th May 1969.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 06:26 AM

And wasn't 1963 the year sexual intercourse was invented? Vintage year, that one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 06:22 AM

Yes, strange how cremation was regarded as an abomination until 1963 when the Pope changed his mind and said it wasn't after all. :-). All to do with believing in the resurrection of the body. You'd have thought that resurrecting a pile of ashes would be no more difficult for God than resurrecting a worm-eaten pile of mouldering compost, but hey ho. It's amazing the little things that God can get cross about. I mean, one piddling nicked bloody apple and we're all in the shite for evermore...


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 05:52 AM

I suppose you all know that, as with Glasgow, our two teams are fairly rigidly divided into religious groups.
I've just learned that my Uncle Freddie managed to buy himself a plot in Goodson Park and his urn now rests under the 'blessed turf'
Never been sure how the Church squares that sort of thing with their somewhat jaundiced view of cremation.
Did you know that there are only four crematoria in the whole of the Republic of Ireland - one of the first being sited in the town of Ovens, in Cork - you can't beat the Irish sense of humour!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 05:41 AM

It's a genetic thing. I come from one of those thousands of families which have an inbuilt and irremovable hatred of Manchester United. I have a grudging respect for City because they have several of my favourite players. Sergio Aguero would get in my world team anytime. And we're grateful for James Milner. Actually, as a lad I went most often to Gigg Lane as it was just up the road from where we lived, but my first love was Burnley in their early sixties glory days, the great Jimmy Mac being my hero. Truth to tell, I just love a good footie match well played. It really can be the Beautiful Game, played on much better pitches than I ever remember and so fast and skilful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 04:40 AM

Jim it's Steve Shaw who is a Mancunian and I have to say in supporting Liverpool a disappointment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 03:42 AM

Sorry lads, 'bout time we drifted back to spiritual matters rather than the important things in life
My and my Uncle Louie's fault entirely
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 29 Feb 16 - 02:45 AM

True. It looks like Hull will be promoted with us. Except they'll be lazy and not have to go through the play offs first.

Been a few years since I went to Anfield. Came away with points the last time I went, but these days most people say that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 05:56 PM

As does scum. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 03:37 PM

Nothing unjust mate. Cream rises to the top, and vice versa.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 03:28 PM

Yeah, and Liverppol unjustly kicked out on bloody penalties. Damn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 11:14 AM

Well, at least we've got the thread back on to

R E L I G I O N!

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Up The Gunners -- tho I've just watched Man U win — Poo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 11:00 AM

Liverpool and Man U connections eh? Why am I not surprised? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Qu: Regarding Religion
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 10:45 AM

"a Mancunian supporting Liverpool."
Sorry lads - not a Mancunian - born and bred in the Pool
No interest in football whatever - that and the Beatles drove me away from home.
Family story tells of my going into town with my dad on the top of the bus and passing the Everton ground - pointing to the Stand, I asked him what that big building was.
Before he could reply the man in the seat behind said "Eh mate, are you bringing up a ******* atheist?"
More interested in the fact that my Uncle Louie was a crooked businessman rather than what team he owned/supported.
Jim Carroll
Went to a Man City game once (at Fulham) - my mate had to wake me up when it was over
Jim Carroll


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