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Lyr Req: Madame Sosthene / Sosthène / Sothene

darkriver 06 Dec 99 - 12:29 AM
ginnyandtracy@rtol.net 06 Dec 99 - 11:41 AM
darkriver 06 Dec 99 - 02:54 PM
lamarca 06 Dec 99 - 03:55 PM
Joe Offer 06 Dec 99 - 04:03 PM
Tracy Schwarz 10 Dec 99 - 09:24 PM
Metchosin 10 Dec 99 - 09:56 PM
darkriver 03 Aug 03 - 07:43 PM
GUEST,Dead Horse (sans biscuit) 04 Aug 03 - 02:28 PM
Dead Horse 04 Aug 03 - 02:34 PM
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Subject: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: darkriver
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 12:29 AM

I'm stumped on this one. Michael Doucet plays and sings a song he titles "Madame Sosthene." I think one or two of the truly old farts (Dewey Balfa comes to mind) also sings it, although they apparently drop the second "s".

Anyway, I can't find the lyrics anywhere. Does anyone have a source they can point me to--a specific book you know would have this song in it. I just can't hear the lyrics with Doucet's singing (I'm hard of hearing which doesn't help at all.)

It's a pretty waltz. Anyone know it?

Thanks.

Doug aka darkriver


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: ginnyandtracy@rtol.net
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 11:41 AM

Doug aka Darkriver(?): understand first that there are no absolute words to any Cajun song because all Cajuns sing their own version of whatever, be it Jolie Blonde or Madame Sosthene, although you might say there are certain thought habits perticular to each song (possible exception: songs connected with personalities like Iry LeJeune or Dewey Balfa). I don't know what Michael Doucet sang, but here's some I learned some years ago, which may be close to his lyrics and can give you a foot in the door to understanding what words are different:
Oh, Madame Sosthene, mais donnez moi-z-Alida
C'est la seule que moi j'aim'rais, depuis d'l'age de quatorze ans
Voulez pas me la donner, j'vas faire serment de la voler
J'vas la passer par la fenetre, and ramener dans ma biroutte.
Hope this helps. Hope you understand it. Tracy Schwarz.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: darkriver
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 02:54 PM

Tracy,

Thank you! That was fast! I do understand what you wrote. The info about the uncertainty of Cajun lyrics is new to me (shows you how much I know, even though I've enjoyed listening and dancing to the music for years).

Are there some printed sources about this musical style? As I wrote up at the top of the thread, I haven't had much luck with the Internet or with my local library. If I knew the names of some of the Cajun-music researchers, I might have more success. Anyone got some names? I'll publish whatever I find to this or another thread.

Again, thanks.

doug (the 'darkriver' is just a login name, that's all)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: lamarca
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 03:55 PM

Ann Savoy has edited a very fine collection called "Cajun Music, a Reflection of the People". She and her husband, Marc, are both great Cajun musicians (Marc builds wonderful accordions, too). I think the book is still in print, so check it out. Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 04:03 PM

Seems to me there ought to be some good Cajun resources on the Web. All I've found so far is the Louisiana Folklife Festival. Might be a good starting place, though.
-Joe offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: Tracy Schwarz
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:24 PM

Hello Again doug aka Darkriver! The 2nd line of "Madame Sosthene" should read "Alle est la seule que moi j'aim'rais" instead of "c'est..." I highly recommend the book "Ye Yaille, Chere!" by Raymond E. Francois, Thunderstone Press, 123 Florida Court, Lafayette LA 70503. If You don't have any luck contacting him, then call Larry Miller at Bon Tee Cajun Accordions, 318-779-2456. That book's full of good Cajun lyrics. let the good songs roll! Tracy Schwarz.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: Metchosin
Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:56 PM

There's a history site regarding Acadians at http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1983/6/83.06.02.x.html if you want to type out such a long address.Sorry I don't know how to do the blue clickety thing.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: darkriver
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 07:43 PM

In the years since I posted this query, we've made some progress on the Internet.

In a later thread (Tune Req: Cajun sheet music?), Dead Horse mentions the excellent site
QUELQUES CHANSONS CAJUNS
    --which has lyrics and some sheet music excerpts.

And in the same thread, the ever-reliable and always knowledgable Masato Sakurai lists these collections of Cajun songs & music:

Ann Allen Savoy, Cajun Music: A Reflection of a People, vol. 1 (Bluebird Press, 1984)

Raymond E. François, Yé Yaille, Chère!: Traditional Cajun Dance Music (Swallow Publications, 1990)

Irène Thérèse Whitfield, Louisina French Folk Songs (1939; reprint Dover, 1969) [out of print]

From another later thread (Lyr Add: LAISSE LE BON TEMPS ROULER (C. Chenier)), we have

http://www.brucedaigrepont.com/lyrics.htm
    --as the name says, part of Bruce Daigrepont Cajun Band Web site

The Encyclopedia of Cajun Culture
    --Quite extensive, with annotated bibliographies and music selections

Thanks all.

doug


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: GUEST,Dead Horse (sans biscuit)
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 02:28 PM

Try this for size (but Tracy Schwarz IS the authority, here)

Oh, madam Sosthèn, mais donnez-moi votre petite fille
Elle est la seul que j'ai aimèe depuis l'âge de 14 ans.
Si vous n'voulez pas m'la donner, j'vous fait serment de la voler,
J'la pass'rai par la finètre pour l'emporter dans ma maison.

Eh, madam Sosthèn, mais donnez-moi votre petite fille,
Elle est la seul' que j'ai aimee depuis l'âge de connaissance.
Si vous n' voulez pas m'la donner, j'vous fait serment de la voler,
Je vais la mettre dans ma brouette, pour la rouler à ma maison.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Madame Sosthene' [or Sothene]
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 02:34 PM

Babelfish turned the lyrics into THIS:-

Oh, madam Sosthèn, but give me your small daughter
It is only that I have loved her since the age of 14 years.
If you do not give her to me, I have made an oath to steal her,
I will drag her through the window, and take her to my house.

Eh, madam Sosthèn, but give me your small daughter,
It is only that I loved her since I've known her.
If you do not give her to me, I have made an oath to steal her,
I will set off in my wheelbarrow, and roll her to my house.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. It's a great tune, honest.


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