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BS:Planned Parenthood Shooter-Christian Terrorist?

GUEST,achmelvich 28 Nov 15 - 07:02 AM
GUEST,Bobby 28 Nov 15 - 06:36 AM
Jim Carroll 28 Nov 15 - 03:43 AM
GUEST 28 Nov 15 - 03:03 AM
GUEST 27 Nov 15 - 10:39 PM
Joe Offer 27 Nov 15 - 10:19 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Nov 15 - 09:31 PM
Greg F. 27 Nov 15 - 09:07 PM
Greg F. 27 Nov 15 - 08:57 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Nov 15 - 08:28 PM
GUEST 27 Nov 15 - 08:03 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Nov 15 - 08:01 PM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 27 Nov 15 - 07:59 PM
GUEST 27 Nov 15 - 07:55 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Nov 15 - 07:43 PM
GUEST,Ebor Fiddler 27 Nov 15 - 07:34 PM
Greg F. 27 Nov 15 - 05:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 28 Nov 15 - 07:02 AM

any 'christians' around who are urging western powere to drop yet more bombs on possibly the most distressed and desperate innocent people on the planet , in the hope of killing a few terrorists, should really have a think about what their religion means. if they are prepared to tolerate the killing of syrian people are they any better than those (falsely) doing it in the name of another religion?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST,Bobby
Date: 28 Nov 15 - 06:36 AM

Should ISIS execute all those Christian bigots?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Nov 15 - 03:43 AM

This incident has about as much to do with Jesus as Islamist terrorism has to do with Allah - nothing whatsoever - both are cases of extremists using religion as an excuse for their extremism, and crass arguments like "your terrorism is nastier than my terrorism" doesn't hack it.
All religions, by their very nature, are open to abuse, and all the major religions have a track record of terrorism, abuse and persecution going back centuries - Christianity is one of the front runners in the Abuse Stakes historically.
The fact that some religious fanatics are less abusive than others at the present time is immaterial - they all hang there like a Sword of Damocles waiting to be misused by one bunch of nutters or another - don't turn your back on any of them!
One thing is certain - religion and politics is a toxic mix, as what is happening today is proving every time we open a newspaper or switch on the news.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Nov 15 - 03:03 AM

I'm sure Greg is making the point that Islamist is removed from Islam too, but try telling that to people who are gullible enough to mistrust people based on their heritage. The words purposely sound similar.

Mind you, these US terrorists get their justification from distorting religious views on when a chemical reaction becomes one of Jesus's sunbeams.

Terrorists all the same.

A pity because away from criminals, debate on the important topic of abortion can never be had whilst ever idiots think their invisible friend has a valid point to make.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 10:39 PM

your usual assertion that the Israeli government is totally blameless,

Ha, ha, ha.....bingo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 10:19 PM

The leaders of Planned Parenthood are wisely withholding judgment. They have nothing to gain by making a premature statement. Most likely, the assailant is an anti-abortion, right-wing, Christian extremist - but we don't know that for sure. Still, the right-wing Christians, even the non-violent ones, have targeted Planned Parenthood unfairly for decades. They completely ignore all the good that Planned Parenthood does for women in need in the United States. I frequently speak out in Catholic circles in support of the good work done by Planned Parenthood, but I know I'm taking a risk every time I say something favorable about Planned Parenthood.

Please note that there are also Christians who have a very favorable opinion of Planned Parenthood. I'm one of them.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 09:31 PM

Oh Guest, I pay plenty of attention to Greg's posts. At times I feel humbled. He can say in one line something that takes me twenty lines. Apart from Dave the Gnome, who lives uncomfortably close to my place of origin so I have to be nice to him( ;-)), Greg is the man I would buy a pint or six for any time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 09:07 PM



(CNN)[Breaking news alert, posted at 8:30 p.m. ET Friday]
A police officer shot during Friday's siege at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs has died, the Colorado Fraternal Order of Police said on Twitter.

Updated at 8:34 p.m.:
At least 11 people, including five police officers, were injured when a gunman attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado on Friday. Officials noted the number could rise as they secure and process the crime scene, while the Colorado Attorney General's office tweeted that there was a "tragic loss of life." Police captured the suspected gunman at 4:52 p.m. local time; his identity remains unknown.

The Colorado Springs clinic is not the first Planned Parenthood facility to come under attack this year. On October 1, an unknown arsonist threw an ignited container of gasoline inside one of the organization's centers in Southern California. The Southern Poverty Law Center identified three similar incidents at Planned Parenthood facilities in Illinois, Louisiana, and Washington in recent months. In September, the FBI warned law-enforcement agencies throughout the country about "lone offenders using tactics of arsons and threats all of which are typical of the pro-life extremist movement."


NB: The "pro-life extremest movement" is overwhelmingly comprised of those who claim to be Christians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 08:57 PM

Greg is making an assertion simply by his posting and the assertion is (as usual) that there is equivalence with Christian and Islamist terrorism.

Horseshit. I never asserted - and do not assert- any such "equivalence".

You could have saved all the time spent with that cut-n-paste garbage. But I suppose it was cathartic for you, Beardie or Beardie-Clone, even though it recapitulates your usual assertion that the Israeli government is totally blameless, whatever it may get up to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 08:28 PM

A bit premature to say anything about this. In a statement, Planned Parenthood said it was not yet clear "if Planned Parenthood was in fact the target of this attack". (Reuters)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 08:03 PM

I guess you haven't been paying much attention to Greg F's posts then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 08:01 PM

No, we can't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 07:59 PM

I don't suppose it has anything to do with the teachings of Jesus, Ebor. I did not see anything in the article that said the assailant identified as Christian either.   But Greg did put a ? Mark on the end, so we cannot assume this is an anti Christian OP can we........


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 07:55 PM

Greg is making an assertion simply by his posting and the assertion is (as usual) that there is equivalence with Christian and Islamist terrorism. Here is a list of Islamist terrorism attacks since 1982. Now show us a list of Christian terrorist attacks from the same period.


    Lebanon November 11, 1982 – Tyre headquarters bombings. 91 dead. 55 injured.[citation needed]....
Quotation deleted - it was an unattributed list of Islamist terrorist attacks from Wikipedia, that covers several screens. The entire text can be found here (click) -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 07:43 PM

We shall see. Greg has reported this without making any assertions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: GUEST,Ebor Fiddler
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 07:34 PM

What has this to do with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth?


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Subject: BS: Another Christian Terrorist?
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Nov 15 - 05:24 PM

Too early to tell, but it sure looks like it:

At least 4 officers, multiple civilians injured in ongoing active shooter situation at Planned Parenthood

Colorado Springs police spokeswoman says, "We still have a gunman that is out there."

By Jesse Paul, Jordan Steffen and John Ingold, The Denver Post



Article Here


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