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Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4

Felipa 18 Nov 15 - 02:28 PM
FreddyHeadey 19 Nov 15 - 11:29 AM
FreddyHeadey 19 Nov 15 - 12:04 PM
FreddyHeadey 22 Aug 19 - 11:24 AM
The Sandman 22 Aug 19 - 04:57 PM
The Sandman 22 Aug 19 - 05:14 PM
Jim Carroll 23 Aug 19 - 03:35 AM
GUEST,jim bainbridge 23 Aug 19 - 04:59 AM
Jim Carroll 23 Aug 19 - 05:15 AM
Dave Hanson 23 Aug 19 - 07:04 AM
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Jim Carroll 23 Aug 19 - 08:54 AM
The Sandman 24 Aug 19 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 24 Aug 19 - 04:05 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 Aug 19 - 04:11 AM
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Subject: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 2
From: Felipa
Date: 18 Nov 15 - 02:28 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/programmes/schedules

it's on now (19 -20.00 18 Nov) radio 2m not 4!


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 19 Nov 15 - 11:29 AM

Prog link 18 Nov 2015
BBC R2 Folk Show --Joy Of Living' chat - Seeger &Carthy &CCarthy


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 19 Nov 15 - 12:04 PM

Prog link 18 Nov 2015
BBC R2 Folk Show --Joy Of Living' chat - PSeeger &MCarthy &ECarthy   ... @ ~ minutes.

17.00 chat
17.30 Chaim Tannenbaum - My Old Man
21.20 chat
27.10 Eliza Carthy - Thirty foot Trailer
31.40 chat
37.10 Martin Carthy - I'm Champion At Keeping Them Rolling
40.20 ends


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 22 Aug 19 - 11:24 AM

How Folk Songs Should Be Sung
January 2012

"Immediately after the success of the BBC Radio Ballads, Ewan MacColl set about the Herculean task of trying to drag British folk music into mainstream culture. Frustrated by the dreary amateurishness of folk song performance, he decided to establish his own centre of excellence to professionalise the art. He called it "The Critics Group".

MacColl tutored select artists "to sing folk songs the way they should be sung" and to think about the origins of what they were singing. He introduced Stanislavski technique and Laban theory into folk performance and explored style, content and delivery.

BBC producer Charles Parker recorded these sessions to aid group analysis. 40 years on, the tapes have come to light. For the first time, a clear sound picture can be constructed of this influential group in action.
Former group members Peggy Seeger, Sandra Kerr, Frankie Armstrong, Richard Snell, Brian Pearson and Phil Colclough recount six frantic years of rehearsing, performing and criticising each other. They recall the powerful hold that Ewan MacColl exerted which was eventually to lead to the collapse of the group in acrimony and blame.

Presenter Martin Carthy MBE, now an elder statesman of the British folk music scene, shared many of McColl's ambitions but didn't join the group himself. He listens to the recordings and assesses the legacy of MacColl's controversial experiment.

Producers: Genevieve Tudor and Chris Eldon Lee
A Culture Wise Production for BBC Radio 4."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b018wy4j


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 19 - 04:57 PM

an important statement, from sandra kerr"a real imnsight into the fact that you could work at this stuff" something we all need to do including floorsingers in singers clubs , practice practice


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 19 - 05:14 PM

fascinating pr0ogramme thankyou


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 03:35 AM

Can't access the programme - the BBC don't like us living in Ireland listening in
"to sing folk songs the way they should be sung"
That phrase and the included quote is one of the most distorted description of what the Critics Group was about still doing the rounds - the Group was set up to collectively discuss and experiment with singing techniques and song analysis in order that we - a group - should improve our technique and understanding COLLECTIVELY
As I write, the recordings of those meetings are being digitised on this computer - there are several hundreds of them in all
Unfortunately MacColl, the Critics Group, and the work we did has become a no-go area of discussion and the inaccuracies and distortions of the work still flourish
A shameful loss to folk song, in my opinion
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 04:59 AM

Jim, there was no problem listening to BBC radio in Ireland online when I was there.
However now you need to sign in, with passwords & all that crap based on a postcode- obviously weeding out non-UK listeners? (another indication of the current 'little England' mentality?)

Maybe you could just use a phoney one- you can have mine if you wish!

Can't say I have ever been tempted to listen to Radio 2, though & especially the ghastly 'Folk Show'


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 05:15 AM

THanks jim would much appreciate that
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 07:04 AM

The BBC Radio 2 folk programme went to shit when Jim Lloyd was replaced, it has never recovered.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 08:38 AM

Jim -try postcode DG8 8LU    Jim B- hope it works?


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Aug 19 - 08:54 AM

THanks again Jim
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Aug 19 - 03:49 AM

jim if you have any trouble hers another , rm15 6ru. i did not have any poroblem, i just pasted the link, weird.


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 24 Aug 19 - 04:05 AM

I could down;load the file no bother, without the need to sign in.


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Aug 19 - 04:11 AM

Dunno how long it will last but there is a free VPN called Keep Solid that has a BBC iPlayer setting that lets you watch or listen to iPlayer from anywhere in the world.


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Aug 19 - 04:34 AM

Peter - that would be magnificent
I have archived most of ewan's programmes
There will be pint behind the bar at Friels for you
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ewan MacColl BBC radio 4
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Aug 19 - 08:51 PM

I'm getting the Download option on the BBC webpage down here in Australia with no issue.... maybe Brexit's already kicked in over there, Jim? :-)


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