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BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump

GUEST,Holden deMayo 09 Aug 15 - 05:38 AM
banjoman 09 Aug 15 - 06:14 AM
GUEST,Alan Ross 09 Aug 15 - 06:17 AM
GUEST,Steve Shaw 09 Aug 15 - 06:46 AM
wysiwyg 09 Aug 15 - 07:24 AM
GUEST 09 Aug 15 - 07:36 AM
Janie 09 Aug 15 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,gillymorg4 09 Aug 15 - 10:32 AM
GUEST,don 09 Aug 15 - 10:50 AM
Jack Campin 09 Aug 15 - 10:54 AM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 09 Aug 15 - 10:56 AM
Jeri 09 Aug 15 - 11:02 AM
akenaton 09 Aug 15 - 11:07 AM
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GUEST,don 09 Aug 15 - 11:39 AM
EBarnacle 09 Aug 15 - 11:41 AM
Greg F. 09 Aug 15 - 11:52 AM
Greg F. 09 Aug 15 - 11:59 AM
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Subject: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Holden deMayo
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 05:38 AM

Donald Trump is a fantastic forward thinking man, which is why he would make a great president.

The short of it is that Trump isn't a politically correct politician, that he says what he means and won't apologize for it.

We need a man like this. He won't stand down against wimps regarding military spending and he would be tough on leaches crossing our borders to sell drugs and open their legs for money.

Come on people get behind him.

God Bless America.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: banjoman
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:14 AM

If that man ever becomes president then it should be "God Help America"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:17 AM

Donald Trump is a racist, sexist, ignorant, con man/crook, a verbal bully with no integrity. Self promoting **** who kicks people off property so he can build luxury developments. This financial crook, has faced bankruptcy several times. That says a lot for his ability to balance your country's books. If you thought Nixon was a crook then you ain't seen nothing yet.   The thought of that **** having his hand on the red button.   God help America and the rest of the world. I am ashamed to share his Scottish roots, but at least I don't dye mine like that pathetic aging ****


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:46 AM

Fortunately for America, the following two points are almost certain: Donald Trump will never be President, and there is no God. Phew, what a relief! 😈


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 07:24 AM

My drunk uncle also says whatever is on his mind too, but that's not the best qualification for the office.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 07:36 AM

Governor Sarah Palin would make an ideal running mate. She has the experience in politics and they share many views. They could really excite voters!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Janie
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 09:29 AM

Good one, Holden deMayo! Are you Holden deOnion too?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,gillymorg4
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 10:32 AM

He's no doubt HoldendePecker, as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,don
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 10:50 AM

Anyone who is without isms cast the first stone.

HE IS A GIANT

His giant Achilles heel is his thin skin.

He loves his self proclaimed status.

That which we love presents our greatest vulnerabilities.

Fox news has played him like a wolf tone fiddle..

Meagan was a prosecutor and is well suited to play the role of a bloodthirsty tool of the state.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 10:54 AM

Governor Sarah Palin would make an ideal running mate. She has the experience in politics and they share many views. They could really excite voters!

Palin might still be menstruating so I can't see that happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 10:56 AM

....and you gonna prove a negative, Steve...?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:02 AM

Trump is very good for the Democrats.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:07 AM

Well I know very little about Mr Trump other than he is against political correctness and his politics do not coincide with mine.

However if the question is, " who is the most dangerous to world peace", my tenner would be on Mrs Clinton.

I don't like bashing the US, I admire a lot of things about the people and their views, but surely you could have come up with two better candidates for the "most important job on the planet"?

Do you have no independent news outlets, are there no alternative political views available..... and if not, why not?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:12 AM

It seems to me that politically there is a huge gap of about one millimetre between Democrats and Republicans, and a great amount of blood is spilt on the control of that millimetre.

We have something similar here in Labour and Conservative, but the template is slowly breaking down, smaller more radical parties are appearing on left and right......sometime we may actually get a voice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,don
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:39 AM

If you want Bernie or Hillary to keep the dogs at bay, it would be best to trump up Trump within the bounds of the obvious.

jusayin.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: EBarnacle
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:41 AM

This video compares the required qualifications to be a New York State teacher vs the qualification to be Governor. By analogy, the same applies if you change governor to president of the United States.

http://youtu.be/vngTAuDwfKg


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:52 AM

If that man ever becomes president then it should be "God Help America"

Its already way past "God Help America".

Trump, that turd with legs, is not a problem. The problem is the millions of brain-dead assholes that SUPPORT him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:59 AM

However if the question is, " who is the most dangerous to world peace", my tenner would be on Mrs Clinton.

You'd lose your ten pounds. You've obviously bought into the Tea Party/mainstream media(I can't call them news outlets)/Karl Rove slurs & anti-Hillary campaign that's been waged ever since Bill was president. .

Do you have no independent news outlets

Plenty, and you would obviously benefit from consulting them. Start with PBS.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 12:06 PM

In the twenties, comments about the rudeness and brash insensitive lunacy of an unlikely man running for office after WWII are chillingly similar to the comments made about Trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 12:17 PM

And which man is that?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 12:37 PM

There are something like 22 formally announced Republican and Democratic candidates at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 12:55 PM

Come on Greg be fair, you saw the mess she made in the Middle East.
She's a disaster waiting to happen, President Obama must be tearing his hair out, after their dirty campaign to win the nomination last time.

The one good thing that came from President Obama's election was the thwarting of the Clintons, but she's back and she's mad.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 12:59 PM

I wrote some lyrics, lets all run for Prez.

Greg, surely you jest.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 01:09 PM

Trump's "candidacy" is not a legitimate candidacy. It's more of a promotional ad campaign for the Trump brand (as if he needs more promotion). It's disgraceful the way he's using the political process as a vehicle to further his financial and business interests, but when campaigns -- thanks to Citizens United -- are fueled more by money than by actual issues and ideologies, perhaps this is the inevitable outcome. Trump's loyalties are to his stockholders and to the bottom line of his balance sheet, not to the country.

Corporations are global entities (and people too, my friend, let's not forget, as Mitt Romney reminded us in 2012) that don't recognize things such as borders or boundaries or laws or constitutions or history or any of the other indices that pertain to sovereignty. To them it's as ephemeral (and arbitrary) as crossing a time zone.

It's not beyond the realm of possibilities to imagine Trump as President trying to buy and remake the Arlington Cemetery because it would be a great place for a golf course or another gaudy hotel (with his name up in lights, of course).

Okay, that might be a little over the top, but hey, to a capitalist nothing is beyond the pale when it comes to the opportunity to make a profit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 01:12 PM

Bernie Sanders.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 01:19 PM

The transparency of Trumps flawed temperament is still more appealing than the other fake temperaments of the Republican field, except perhaps Kacinich.


BERNIE


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 01:59 PM

Come on Greg be fair, you saw the mess she made in the Middle East.

How soon they forget. The mess in the Middle East was created by George Dumbya Bush and company long before Hillary became secretary of state.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled asshole, Donald Trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 02:53 PM

..."if the question is, " who is the most dangerous to world peace", my tenner would be on Mrs Clinton." ake

Your credibility ain't top notch, ake. I recall you were in favor of the Palin. You make me laugh.

Donuel, I suspect you misspoke @12:06. Don't you mean "an unlikely man" after WWI, not WWII?

Me for Bernie! With Elizabeth Warren in the Cabinet!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 03:03 PM

He is the most aptly-named person ever to run for the position of POTUS.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 04:41 PM

Ebbie, if you need a laugh don't look to me, just look at your candidates.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 04:54 PM

OK Greg, who dragged President Obama into Libya against his better judgement, in a cynical attempt to raise her profile for the next election.
"We came etc"    
Libya was arguably a bigger crime and provoked a situation which will prove to be even more dangerous than Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Janie
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 05:27 PM

Well and concisely said, Jeri. He is great for the Democratic party. I hope he stays in the race. I especially hope he launches an Independent run once the primary voting starts and rational Republicans begin to have some influence. Assuming of course, that happens. As surreal a scenerio as it seems to me that he would actually be the Republican nominee, I suppose that could happen.

Regardless, I am inclined to do everything I can to support his continued candidacy. Greatly increases the likelihood of a Democratic victory for the presidency. If the Dems can figure out how to play it, also increases the likelihood of greater representation in Congress of Democrats and rational, moderate Republicans.

I appreciate the role of gadflies in politics. But I don't want a congress full of them and that is the case with the Republican party at this point in time. Plus, they are in total denial, as are the constituents who elected them, of their conscious and unconscious racism and how that has influenced the hard lines they have drawn that they delusionally call ideological positions. Facing the reality of one's own racism, from which each and every human being suffers, is very hard and rarely done.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 05:39 PM

We have exactly the same position in the UK Janie, where conservatives are actually joining the Labour party in order to vote for a socialist to be leader, they reckon a socialist would be unelectable ......isn't it totally disgusting, undemocratic, and immoral. ?????


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 05:48 PM

Libya was arguably a bigger crime

According to.....You?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Joe_F
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:11 PM

George Soros & Donald Trump should have a drink together. They both think they are so rich, they must be smart.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:32 PM

Sorry, Joe - Mr. Soros isn't anything like the piece of crap that Trump is. And he actually IS pretty smart.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 06:44 PM

I re-iterate my earlier comments. The man is a sexist, racist metaphorical thug; a bully and a rip off businessman who has connections to criminals. Ideal for the Presidency - just like Nixon then.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 08:56 PM

Janie, are you seriously suggesting that we are all natural bOrn "racists", or have I misread your post? I do hope I am mistaken. If not, I am gratefully relieved not to have your misanthropic view of the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Janie
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:38 PM

I think you have misinterpreted my post, HiLo. These days there is little patience on Mudcat for lengthy, somewhat academic posts. But over the years others, as well as myself have posted about how the human brain works, as well about being conscious vs unconscious of biases, which none of us human beings can be free of.

If you choose, will be glad to discuss via pm. Not gonna go there on the forum for three reasons.

The most important reason in terms of today's Mudcat is I don't choose to deal with trolls or to deal with people who have no respect for Mudcat as a community and see it only as an on-line forum, and know from experience a discussion here will likely draw trolls.

The second reason is I have written about how the human brain processes information and the by-products, including over-generalization and stereotyping extensively in the past. So have many others who are part of this community.   I don't need to repeat that information, nor do most folks in the community have any interest in me repeating that info.

Thirdly, and perhaps it should be firstly - I am not a pithy, to the point writer. I'm long winded, precise but not concise - comes from years as a policy writer - great for closing loopholes and minimizing the opportunities for misinterpreting/misapplying public policy by line workers and local administrators, but awful for posting on Mudcat. This already too long post is proof.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 09 Aug 15 - 11:58 PM

I am not a troll. I am not hiding and would say what I say to Mr. Trump's face. If you are putting him forward as a potential world leader, and not facing up to the man's proven crooked business activities, past or present - then you are fooling people. The man has set himself for criticism for the things he says and his actions (many of which have been exposed in TV documentaries that you probably haven't seen in the US. He has kicked people off land; built on environmentally sensitive land; promised Scotland jobs that never appeared -and had links to people who were in organised crime. Apart from that there are numerous other past crooked dealings that have been conveniently covered up. So the author of the thread set Mr. Trump up for criticism by using the theme of the "greatness of Donald Trump".   He is not great.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 12:06 AM

Janie, thank you for your reply. I very we have misunderstood you. But for the reasons you gave, we shall leave it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Amos
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 12:16 AM

He is rampantly unqualified to hold the offive he pretends tyo seek. Campaign bluster is not an index of competency. Look at the last Republican president~!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Janie
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 12:46 AM

Agree Alan Ross. His strong polling among the Republican base, along with some likelihood (who knows if he is serious,) that he may run as an independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination, will be the best thing since sliced bread for Democrats. (Of which I are one:>) I think most thoughtful Republicans also recognize what an ass he is and would not vote for him in the general election. Don't know if that means they would stay home or vote the Democratic ticket. If he runs as an independent, he splits the conservative vote. As long as he stays in the race, progressives win.

Huzzah The Donald! If, as a result of him staying his course, the Democratic candidate wins the presidency and the Dems also increase the number of congressional seats they hold, I will gladly kiss the ass of the Ass.

With his independent billions and his ego, he sadly but realistically represents the best hope of progressives to win in spite of Citizens United. He doesn't have to answer to the Koch Bros. And he really is unelectable.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 01:28 AM

Yep. I am apolitical, just don't dig this man as a potential world leader. How can you trust somebody who had known links to underworld criminals? He also lied to the Scottish government to get planning for his Aberdeen golf course, promising over 800 jobs and getting a mere 60 odd. Shows how sincere the man is. People were kicked off their land, and environmentally sensitive land was sacrificed to allow him to build on the basis of this economic bribery.

Then there were dodgy condo deals, for which he was sued.... numerous other examples can be found. He bullies journalists, particularly female ones if they ask him awkward questions. Does anybody remember the Selina Scott bullying - when she filmed a BBC TV programme which didn't show him in a favourable light? This is the man they want for President, a megalomaniac tyrant.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 01:47 AM

I think there is a need for a conservative voice in the governing of the United States, but I think Donald Trump is a caricature of the conservative point of view. For that matter, most of the Republican candidates are caricatures of the conservative point of view. At this point, Jeb Bush seems to be the only rational candidate on the Republican side, and I have my questions about him. It makes me look back and think that maybe George W. wasn't so bad.

I'm starting to think that Joe Biden isn't a bad idea. It's time for us moderates to have a voice.

-Joe Offer, Radical Moderate-

P.S. And I still think Barack Obama has done a great job as President.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,Alan Ross
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 02:15 AM

Apologies I have to correct myself. The TV documentary with Selina Scott was a Grampian TV programme from the 1990's. There have been recent BBC documentaries exposing criminal links and the business deals. There have also been films like 'You've been Trumped'. That's my last word on the subject!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 05:01 AM

I wonder if he realises that in some parts of the UK a trump is a noisy fart?

Just askin'

RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: Stu
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 05:35 AM

From the UK the Democrats are a conservative voice ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST,LIGHTER, no cookie
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 06:51 AM

> At this point, Jeb Bush seems to be the only rational candidate on the Republican side.

Surely you jest. (Unless by "rational" you mean "viable.")

Check out both Kasich and Gilmore, each polling close to zero among the GOP - of course. And Fiorina at least has some dignity.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Greatness of Donald Trump
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 15 - 07:04 AM

He does seems to "grate" on many people. ;)


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