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selby 04 Aug 14 - 02:04 AM
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GUEST,The Station Inn, Whitby 04 Aug 14 - 03:59 PM
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r.padgett 06 Aug 14 - 05:08 AM
GUEST 06 Aug 14 - 05:23 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 06 Aug 14 - 06:38 AM
Mo the caller 06 Aug 14 - 12:03 PM
Jack Campin 06 Aug 14 - 01:09 PM
GUEST,Guest 06 Aug 14 - 01:46 PM
Susan of DT 09 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM
Jack Campin 11 Aug 14 - 02:13 PM
Noreen 11 Aug 14 - 08:33 PM
GUEST,Guest 11 Aug 14 - 08:57 PM
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Mo the caller 12 Aug 14 - 02:27 AM
GUEST 12 Aug 14 - 02:52 AM
Jack Campin 12 Aug 14 - 03:39 AM
Noreen 12 Aug 14 - 05:22 AM
Betsy 12 Aug 14 - 06:28 AM
Paul Reade 12 Aug 14 - 07:16 AM
Jack Campin 12 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM
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Jack Campin 12 Aug 14 - 01:48 PM
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Jack Campin 15 Aug 14 - 06:57 AM
Mysha 15 Aug 14 - 07:08 AM
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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 01:32 AM

Yes the Endeavour is up and running. And the pie shop opposite provides a very welcome break.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: selby
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:04 AM

I also understand there is a very good folk festival happening in Whitby around that time with some good concerts.May be worth checking out.
Keith


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:02 AM

Agree with comment above about pie shop opposite. Went the other week and discovered that you are welcome to take in your own alcoholic drinks if you wish.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:26 AM

Well put Keith.

I knew there was a reason we were thinking of going to Whitby around that time.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 05:30 AM

Think you missed the point, Keith....


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 05:48 AM

Methinks Keith is being ironic, nowt wrong with that. The festival has to be one of the best, if not the best, festivals in the country. Because of that it also attracts a large fringe, again possibly the best in the country. Just as a thought though Keith if everyone who came to Whitby tried to get into the festival "proper" there would no doubt be major ructions at most venues!!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: nutty
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:44 AM

Whats the current situation on parking camper vans in Whitby? At one time it was muted that the Council were going to ban them - Has that now been quashed?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM

There are new parking rules this year. See the link posted by "guest" 3 Aug 5:04 AM.

No response to the request about what is actually happening on the ground.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,The Station Inn, Whitby
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:59 PM

As always we will be open longer than usual for Whitby Folk Festival, our opening times are as follows:

Fri 15th Aug to Fri 22nd Aug inclusive - 10am to 2am daily,

We look forward to seeing you all again for another great week!

Everyone welcome :)

Cheers,
Colin, Andrew, Pat, Fen, Carly, Rob, Vicky and Lucy x


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,cujimmy
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 07:45 AM

The Station was brilliant last year, looking forward to music and having a few jars (x 100) in there this year, FILO was very good too, what a shame its not happening in there again this year.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:31 AM

Re pensioners not getting a free pass on the park and ride bus. As my good lady asks why should anyone get a free ride on it. You are supposed to park out of town and use the bus to get into town and back to the car park. It is NOT a normal bus service but is there in an attempt to reduce parking congestion in the town centre.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:08 AM

What a pity that the Park and Ride is not part of the normal service and a charge is made, unlike other tourist towns and cities, and keeping with the National bus pass concessions

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:23 AM

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Re pensioners not getting a free pass on the park and ride bus. As my good lady asks why should anyone get a free ride on it."

@Raggytash
Many P&R schemes accept passes. A factual warning that Whitby's was not one of those schemes does not imply an opinion that it should be.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 06:38 AM

Point taken. I defer to your greater knowledge of Bus Schemes, I rarely take the bus although I have pinched the odd car in the past.


Joking,only joking I haven't pinched the odd car in the past ........


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 12:03 PM

Chester Park and Ride used to accept my bus pass. It caused chaos in the bus queues when they stopped it, and all us old dodderers had to get off the bus and go and find change for the ticket machine (all indignant)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 01:09 PM

You can use a pensioners' bus pass on any bus in Scotland, and that includes park&rides. Might be relevant for people visiting Edinburgh or Glasgow for a festival...

...from somewhere else in Scotland. Scotland and England don't recognize each other's bus passes.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 01:46 PM

Suggest that the parking issue be addressed on the separate thread.

Just for info - Pensioner pass holders pay a reduced fare on York P & R.

Once the Conservatives are voted back in next year by all the well off pensioners then bus passes will disappear - be warned!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Susan of DT
Date: 09 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM

See you all there. Dick Greenhaus and I are coming over this year.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 02:13 PM

Passing this on, about the Eurosessions:

The sessions will be held every afternoon starting on Saturday from 3pm until 5pm at Whitby Yacht Club, Pier Road - on the corner opposite the bandstand for anyone who hasn't been before. Dancing is encouraged at all these sessions.

You may also be interested in 2 other fringe workshops with de Mowbray's Musicke which the Yacht Club is hosting immediately before the Eurosession. The first of these is on Tuesday, 19 August from 2pm - 3pm - Mediaeval Dances as danced by the common people; and the second is on Wednesday 20 August from 2pm - 3pm - Tudor Dances of court and country.


I'll be there.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 08:33 PM

Very interesting, thank you Jack- but what is a Eurosession?


Keith, are you assuming that people asking about fringe sessions are not buying festival tickets?

We have come to Whitby with full tickets for several years, and enjoy fringing too- it's all part of the Wonderful Whitby experience.
Exhibiting a negative attitude to the fringe doesn't do anyone any good. Other festivals I know well that have discouraged fringers without festival tickets have found that these would-be fringers do NOT buy festival tickets, they just stay away altogether- to the detriment of the whole festival.

Let's keep Whitby inclusive! :)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 08:57 PM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

The person above is obviously quite happy to subsidise these parasites. I personally would rather not.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 11:54 PM

Why are fringes important at festivals?

They off alternative complementary activites to the main festival
B3cause fringe activities are usually free they pull in passers by who might not be especially interested in the music
Some festivsl are overorganised and fringes provide opportunities for more spontaneous singarounds and session of which there are fewer at so e festival
By their ticket cost, festivals are at risk of excluding their target audience. Fringe activities permit inclusion of all regardless of cost.
People who attend fringes to festival are hardly "parasites" but probavly complement the main event?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 02:27 AM

At Whitby there is the Festival Fringe, listed in the programme which although free is visited by a steward with a collecting tin, as well as an informal fringe organised on the grapevine.
For many season ticket holders the fringe and free events are an important part of the week and we would think twice about coming if all that was on offer was concerts and dance workshops.

Some festivals may thrive on Big Names but Whitby is about taking part.

Some of the friends I meet at Whitby have season tickets. Some prefer to play music in pubs most of the day but buy a ticket for any workshop that takes their fancy. Others perhaps are happy to meet up with a group of friends and make music, which means that there is always a session going on when we want one.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 02:52 AM

I like it!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 03:39 AM

I presume the content-free message before this was a spammer testing.

The Eurosession plays tunes from continental Europe. Predominantly French but anything goes. At one point last year we had three nyckelharpas at once.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 05:22 AM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

I don't bother entering into conversation with someone hiding their head in a paper bag, which obviously will make understanding difficult.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Betsy
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 06:28 AM

Raggytash, it might be a good idea to "Refresh" the Glaisdale train thread.
I would do it myself but can't remember the exact Subject title .

Thanks

Betsy .


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Paul Reade
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 07:16 AM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

Sessions (and folk clubs) are the "bedrock" of the folk scene - just people who love to get together and sing, play or just listen to the music we love.

Festivals on the other hand seem to be elitist "closed shops" with the same old faces headlining, which is why I rarely go to them. What I do object to is that they expect the rest of us to subsidise them either by "contributing financially" or through the various "festival fundraisers" I've seen advertised.

To turn this whole argument on its head, without the clubs and sessions there wouldn't even be any festivals.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM

The "official" festival and the fringe complement each other very well at Whitby. A lot of the same people go to sessions and concerts, ceilidhs or workshops. We won't be buying a weekly ticket this year, but we go to enough official events that it would nearly be cost-effective.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 10:36 AM

"Festivals on the other hand seem to be elitist "closed shops" with the same old faces headlining, which is why I rarely go to them. "

Probably because of Whitby's anti-elitist system of listing performers aphabetically. 422 always end up top of the bill - they really should stop booking oldies like Sam Pirt .....


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 01:48 PM

Are there any early music workshops this year?

I'd like to know so I can decide which instruments to pack.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 01:47 PM

Nobody?

A couple of years ago there was an early music workshop with Andy Casserley and others. Can somebody look in their programme?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 06:16 PM

Really Jack you must stop being a professional Scot and buy a programme in advance - the postage is only a wee bawbee after all.

Too late now though - just think - you could have had one weeks ago and be all packed and ready to go with all the right nose flutes and bangalodeons.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 09:15 PM

Posting as a mod, but I don't want to leave this in someone else's post.

Someone else's anonymity is no excuse for abuse. Feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but please forgo the verbal beating. I deleted an abusive post and replies. Please understand that abuse is going to hit anyone who reads it, not just your intended target.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: vectis
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 12:31 AM

This parasite used to go to quite a few concerts and workshops just paying at the door so many of us do contribute to the festival. We do put into the tins, spend money in the town and support the teams dancing around the place. I just couldn't make a ticket pay as I went there to sing and play most of the time.
Oh! And raise money for the lifeboat too.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Musket
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 02:22 AM

I love Whitby and have done on and off for 35 years now.

Luckily, in all that time I never seem to come across any of the name calling and professional versus beardy with crib sheet in a pub arguments that seem to haunt this thread.

I go to enjoy both and always do.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 05:27 AM

Vectis

The parasite comment obviously does not apply to you and you are not alone in that.

It is worth pointing out though that without the festival there would be no fringe.

You obviously acknowledge that by contributing financially.

A lot of people do not - they are the parasites.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 04:08 AM

Right, now Whitby ff week starts Saturday so get your bucket and spades and bodhrans and rattles and lollipops and wave your hankies!!

Don't forget your wallets as beer is expensive, play that instrument you have been practising all year and sing those songs where ever and whenever you can

Tickets are for what you want to see when you want to see 'em and rattle the collectors bucket as you go along watching the well drilled dancers (and some not so well drilled!)

Enjoy yourselves or else!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 06:57 AM

Really Jack you must stop being a professional Scot and buy a programme in advance - the postage is only a wee bawbee after all.
Posting as a mod, but I don't want to leave this in someone else's post.
Someone else's anonymity is no excuse for abuse. Feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but please forgo the verbal beating. I deleted an abusive post and replies. Please understand that abuse is going to hit anyone who reads it, not just your intended target.


Read back in the thread and you will see that the poster is an anonymous bully who has some kind of grudge about me (and posts in response to just about anything I say about Whitby). There is NO excuse for letting a thug like that indulge in that kind of harassment and it's put itself far beyond the point where it merits politeness in response. Get the cunt off Mudcat NOW.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mysha
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 07:08 AM

Jeri,

Someone's own anonymity is no excuse for abuse either. They should feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but they should forgo the verbal baiting.

Could you, please, remove the insulting post as you've remove the abusive replies to it.

Thanks,
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM

I agree no one shall post aggressive and insulting comments and these should be removed, but, there is never an excuse for obscenity Jack


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 01:56 PM

It has been lovely to meet Susan of DT and Dick Greenhaus in Whitby again, and to hear them singing rare and interesting ballads at the lunchtime sessions. Dick was showing pre-publication copies of a couple of new books from Camsco publications - a second volume of unpublished 'Songs the Whalemen Sang' by Gale Huntington, and a book by Ed Cray on the Wild West shows - both of which looked very intriguing, and I look forward to seeing them on sale soon.

Matthew


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 02:46 PM

it is some while since i have been booked at Whitby. I think it is the perfect location for a festival, I prefer it to Sidmouth.
Malcolm Storey was better as a festival organiser than a creeketer


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 23 Aug 14 - 05:03 PM

Over the years we've had 'dance from 9.30 am- 1.30 am' Whitbys
'Join the Band' Whitbys (and play for the Hobby Horse Club)
'harmony singing' Whitbys
'session Whitbys'

This year was a 'concert Whitby', and we are now experts at the venues with the most comfortable seats.
I don't usually go to festivals for the concerts - but what an excellent line-up. A real pleasure.
As were all the other bits and pieces we fitted in.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Musket
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 03:21 AM

I managed to go twice, so obviously loved it.

After helping out a band I know who had a member ill, I went back again a couple of days later just to find old friends and join in a few sessions.

Of course, we can hanker for the days when Whitby was the warm up for Stainsby but today's festival is still good fun, either way.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: stallion
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 03:38 AM

Good Lord, somethings never change, good to see the bickering is still going on children.
So, what happened to the Endeavour on Thursday night? Nice little singalong but the "usual suspects" weren't there. Looked around for the "comforters" on the floor but couldn't see any. Any, tidy up kids, spit spot.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Les from Hull
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:47 AM

Endeavour has recently changed hands (twice) so we hadn't got the same arrangements. Maybe next year.

We remember what a smashing time we had last time, thanks to you and the lads. We will be doing the singarounds at Hull Folk Festival on 12-14 Sept.

Maggie and Les (the Usual Suspects)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Soldier boy
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:54 AM

Another brilliant festival as usual. What made it extra special for me this year was finding 'The Star' pub which is on a little street that runs passed the back of The Ship Inn, just back from the harbour on the opposite side from the Abbey. This pub is now run by John and his wife and very quickly became the place to be for the best singaround sessions in Whitby. Everyone was made to feel very welcome indeed and with all beers (including three real ales in tip-top condition!)priced at just £2.50 a pint you really couldn't go wrong. It will definately be my first port of call next year. Thank you John for doing such an excellent job as host and organiser and I hope your new venture goes from strength to strength, you deserve it.
I would encourage everyone to head for The Star on any visit to Whitby and I'm sure you won't be disappointed; it really is 'a star'!

Chris


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:54 AM

Hull Folk Festival - what's that Les?

First I have heard of it!

Perhaps someone should start a thread?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Acorn4
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 01:20 PM

I must endorse the excellent comments about The Star. The morning story/poetry sessions there were also very good as well as the singarounds. Only problem is as with all popular venues you have to get in early to get a seat.


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