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kendall 19 Oct 13 - 03:17 PM
kendall 19 Oct 13 - 03:21 PM
GUEST,Eliza 19 Oct 13 - 04:08 PM
GUEST 19 Oct 13 - 04:54 PM
Jeri 19 Oct 13 - 05:55 PM
Jeri 19 Oct 13 - 06:01 PM
Greg F. 19 Oct 13 - 06:22 PM
kendall 19 Oct 13 - 08:40 PM
Jeri 19 Oct 13 - 08:49 PM
Rapparee 19 Oct 13 - 09:19 PM
Jeri 19 Oct 13 - 09:36 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 19 Oct 13 - 09:37 PM
Jeri 19 Oct 13 - 09:55 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Oct 13 - 12:47 AM
GUEST,Eliza 20 Oct 13 - 06:19 AM
Rapparee 20 Oct 13 - 07:53 AM
GUEST,kendall 20 Oct 13 - 09:33 AM
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Subject: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 03:17 PM

For the past few months we have had an infestation of little grubs that look like maggots that stick to the living room ceiling. The are white and they have what looks like eyes. I've killed over two dozen in the past three days. We also have little flying things that look like moths. I have no idea how they got on the ceiling.
Orange juice is a great trap for the flying things, but, what about the maggots?
By the way, I'm sure they are not real maggots. Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 03:21 PM

Sounds like a good name for a song


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 04:08 PM

Sound like moth grubs, either clothes moths or 'pantry moths'. Either are not good news, as an infestation is hard to eradicate. Get rid of them ASAP. The grubs look like maggots but smaller. All are just the larvae of the adult stage. Put all perishable food in sealable containers, or in the fridge. Check flour, porridge oats, cereal packets etc for signs of infestation, as that's where they've probably come from. Check all wardrobes and drawers for moths in clothes. If found, use moth-killer. They only live in woolly things, so man-made fibres should be ok. You need a spray for the larvae on the ceiling. Do as much of the house as you can. If you do nothing, they'll get a real hold.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 04:54 PM

Take a spray bottle of water with about 10% bleach. Spray the ceiling including if you can any grubs you see. They will croak. Repeat after two days. If you eat any of the grubs, repeat sooner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 05:55 PM

As Eliza said...
Sounds like Indian Meal Moth larvae. Killing them is good, but the main problem is where they're hatching from. They like stored grain products & starchy things: rice, popcorn, cereal, lentils and the like. These guys are why I keep a lot of things in the freezer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 06:01 PM

Dear GUEST, do you eat the grubs before or after you spray them with the chlorine solution? I think some nice balsamic vinegar might taste better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 06:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUHv89OpuM


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 08:40 PM

I've been smacking them with a fly swatter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 08:49 PM

Does Jacqui have a video recorder?


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 09:19 PM

Maggots on the ceiling
Maggots on the floor
Maggots on your dinner plate --
Who could ask for more?


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 09:36 PM

When I had larvae on MY ceiling, and I tried whacking them with the flyswatter, they fell through the holes in it. Then I spent a bit trying to find them on the floor and whacking the crap out of them. After that happened several times, I just nudged them off the ceiling,caught them in a plastic container, and flushed 'em. It was more efficient to find out what they were hatching out of and getting rid of THAT.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 09:37 PM

Chuck them in your favorite 'Rice-a-Roni'...nobody will even notice.

BTW, the bleach idea is NOT a good one, unless you have white acoustic ceilings. You might get rid of the boogers, but it may bleach lighter spots on the surface.
Get a good 3 month indoor/outdoor spray insecticide...and spray Jacqui with it...if she's not a bug, it won't bother her....if she keels over, at least nobody will be bugging you to do something about the new house guests! ....besides, they make a great conversational piece!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 09:55 PM

I'm guessing he might have been joking about the bleach. What I though of when he suggested it is that 1) my kitchen ceiling isn't waterproof, and 2) what goes up must come down (if it doesn't stick), so one would get a face, head, and shoulders full of a (fairly mild) chlorine solution.

One would have a similar experience with insecticide, most of which is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. This is mild, of course, because bugs are small. Another ACE inhibitor is sarin nerve agent. Insecticide is nowhere near as bad as sarin people-cide, but it still isn't a good idea to get it in your eyes, on your skin, or in your lungs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 12:47 AM

Well, most kitchens don't have white acoustic ceilings, anyway....BUT, a solution of water mixed with bleach is GREAT for getting water spots out of acoustic ceilings!! Works every time!

GfS

P.S. The Rice-a-Roni idea was the best. though..AND it'll save you money on your food bill!


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 06:19 AM

Have you a Hoover (vacuum cleaner) with a nozzle? If so, could you perhaps try vacuuming them off the ceiling and all other places? If I had the things I think I'd try that, as once in the Hoover bag, they'd be easier to dispose of. I have dozens of plastic sealable containers for all my dry goods such as flour, oats, cereal, Bisto etc. You sometimes get tiny mites, flour weevils, moths etc which arrive in packets bought at the supermarket. If in a container, you can at least chuck the lot out straightaway and they can't migrate to other food. I also empty completely my cupboards and drawers regularly and Hoover them out. That way, nothing can linger and multiply. I do love a good 'turn-out' (or 'fie-out as they say in Norfolk). Very therapeutic on a rainy day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 07:53 AM

They're 90% protein. Eat up!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 09:33 AM

Why only on the living room ceiling?


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 09:43 AM

In Borneo, early 60's, we found that the oats in the ration packs were infested with weevils, the C. O. contacted the Medical Corps in Singapore who said: "They're quite nutritious, don't worry about it." So we didn't - just chucked the oats in with the stew and ate the lot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 09:44 AM

They're crawling up from somewhere.
Check the furniture and whatever's under the migratory path. Got any spilled nuts or chips in your cushions? Any errant dog food under the sofa?


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 09:53 AM

Guest, yeah, if you're hungry enough you can overcome the "ew" factor. They don't have much taste. I was eating something about a year ago, when I thought to myself "I don't think this is supposed to have coconut in it." I'd just bitten it and didn't actually chew & swallow it (at least not that one), but that was the one that led me to the upward and outward migration from the hanging basket in the kitchen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 10:36 AM

They go up high, attach themselves and hang downwards to pupate. Later the pupa case will split and a new moth will emerge, ready to munch on your clothes, furniture or food!


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 12:11 PM

In the living room my first guess would be clothes moths. Probably living in the carpet. You can get pheromone traps for the adults if you don't want to spray. As Eliza says use a hoover on the larvae.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,SINS
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 12:16 PM

My father opened an ancient box of oatmeal and let loose a plague of those things. They thrive on dampness. Run a dehumidifer. And Kill Kill Kill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 12:32 PM

Do you have a bag of birdseed or dog food in the house? They're both major causes of the little bastards getting into the house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 12:33 PM

A year ago I bought a plastic 10# bag of fancy hulled bird seed and didn't take it out of the paper bag for a while. When I did I realized it was full of weevils/moths that had spread into the sun room where the bag was stored. I fought those damned moths for ages because they got inside a large case of an arcade video game my son had stored in there. I used a swatter also, but got nowhere, more kept turning up.

I'm not sure what they were eating and generating from after the bird seed was gone - perhaps the cellulose of the MDF of the arcade case? They seemed to come from that corner of the room, and I eventually got rid of the case. But they got established enough that there are still a couple a month seen in the house.

The answer is twofold - put anything that is a food grain into the freezer and leave it there for a while. If you have room, leave it in the freezer until you're ready to use it. Bags of flour, and secondary food sources like raw dry pasta and bags of beans all should be frozen. Clean out the cupboards where those things lived. They can also get into carpets and clothes - they are quite a universal pest. Vacuum, keep an eye on the closet, and finally, put out moth traps.

For what they are, moth traps seem expensive. A three sided sticky open-ended container that you arm by adding a little pheromone-embedded tag to the inside of the trap. Two of them will set you back $15 at Home Depot, more at other hardware stores. Once it is set up in the room where you're seeing the moths they will appear within minutes and fling themselves onto the glue. The males are attracted to this box that smells like the female moths. The trap lasts for about three months.

I tried several brands, and the ones I settled on (and still have here because I still find a few of these pests in low levels) are mail ordered from Amazon: Catchmaster Moth and Pantry Pest trap. I ordered some from Home Depot but they had to be mail ordered and they were a lot more expensive than these (the HD website makes it look like you get 12 traps for the price, but it is poorly marked packaging, there is a word in block print next to the 2 that makes it look like a 12. I complained about this.) This trap has the thickest stickiest insides I've ever seen, and they work well.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 02:21 PM

I find that a small glass of either scotch or orange juice will attract the moths, and it's curtains for them if they land in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 02:52 PM

I found their lair. An almost new box of oatmeal.
I sorta feel like James Whitmore in that awful sci fi flick, THEM.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Bert
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 03:08 PM

Also, I would suggest that you throw out all flours, grains cereals and pulses. It might seem a bit extreme and expensive but it is much cheaper than having them keep coming back. We had a similar infestation once and by the time it was noticed, the little buggers had infested everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 06:46 PM

What a waste of Scotch!


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 07:58 PM

The Scotch was by accident. Vinegar also works.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Oct 13 - 08:00 PM

I find that a small glass of either scotch or orange juice will attract the moths

Maybe tequila would be more traditional for maggots.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 21 Oct 13 - 08:45 PM

I'm with Bert. You gotta get rid of all your dry pantry stuff.

Clear it all out, THEN scrub and bleach (50-100ppm solution) everything well and replace only with airtight containers.

I've fought pantry moths a few times. Yuck-o.

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: kendall
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 10:22 AM

I haven't seen any since I threw all the oatmeal and Wheatina out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 12:31 PM

I hesitate to suggest spraying water with bleach in it. So many things can go wrong when even a dilute mix of chlorine bleach hits paint, wood, plastic, fabric.

When you bring home the new box of oatmeal, flour, etc., wrap it in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer for a few days. The plastic is so that when you take it back out again the condensation from the room air doesn't make the oats, flour, etc., moist as the package warms to the room temperature. Living here in Texas has taught me that you can't just put groceries in the cupboard when you bring them home. In a hot climate, resident eggs (they're in there, you can't avoid them) will hatch.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Maggots on the ceiling
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 07:13 PM

At no more than 100 ppm (1 tsp bleach per gallon of water), this is a safe (including food-safe) sanitizer. Of course, fabric should be tested, but for wood/shelving/counters it is perfectly safe. Won't kill the eggs, but will kill just about every other germ.

Dani


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