mudcat.org: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37]


BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p

Stilly River Sage 24 Jan 14 - 12:55 PM
GUEST,concerened 24 Jan 14 - 12:13 PM
Jack the Sailor 24 Jan 14 - 08:45 AM
Musket 24 Jan 14 - 07:15 AM
Jack the Sailor 23 Jan 14 - 01:01 PM
GUEST,pete from seven stars link 23 Jan 14 - 12:51 PM
Musket 23 Jan 14 - 04:26 AM
Jack the Sailor 22 Jan 14 - 09:01 PM
akenaton 22 Jan 14 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,concerened 22 Jan 14 - 11:44 AM
Jack the Sailor 22 Jan 14 - 08:33 AM
akenaton 22 Jan 14 - 08:05 AM
akenaton 22 Jan 14 - 07:47 AM
GUEST,Musket 22 Jan 14 - 05:57 AM
Keith A of Hertford 22 Jan 14 - 05:47 AM
GUEST,Musket 22 Jan 14 - 05:05 AM
Jack the Sailor 22 Jan 14 - 12:26 AM
akenaton 21 Jan 14 - 09:42 PM
akenaton 21 Jan 14 - 09:38 PM
akenaton 21 Jan 14 - 05:16 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 04:36 PM
GUEST 21 Jan 14 - 04:11 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 01:28 PM
akenaton 21 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM
GUEST,Musket 21 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM
GUEST,Grishka 21 Jan 14 - 12:41 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,Grishka 21 Jan 14 - 09:16 AM
GUEST,concerend 21 Jan 14 - 07:32 AM
akenaton 20 Jan 14 - 05:18 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 04:38 PM
GUEST,concerened 20 Jan 14 - 03:54 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 03:46 PM
akenaton 20 Jan 14 - 03:14 PM
GUEST,Musket 20 Jan 14 - 03:09 PM
akenaton 20 Jan 14 - 01:44 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 11:21 AM
GUEST,concerened 20 Jan 14 - 11:15 AM
GUEST,Musket 20 Jan 14 - 02:10 AM
Don Firth 19 Jan 14 - 03:27 PM
Jack the Sailor 19 Jan 14 - 02:56 PM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 19 Jan 14 - 02:37 PM
GUEST,Musket 19 Jan 14 - 03:35 AM
GUEST,Musket 19 Jan 14 - 03:28 AM
GUEST,concerend 18 Jan 14 - 08:00 PM
Jack the Sailor 18 Jan 14 - 06:22 PM
Jack the Sailor 18 Jan 14 - 02:48 PM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 18 Jan 14 - 01:34 PM
GUEST,concerened 18 Jan 14 - 12:46 PM
GUEST,Musket 18 Jan 14 - 12:43 PM
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:






Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 12:55 PM

Since this thread has reached the all name-calling all the time state, it appears to have run its course.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 12:13 PM

Whose opinion do you want Don to have seven stars petist link or whatever your bloody daft name is..? Yours? jerks?

As far as I can see by all your previous posts you aint saying nothing special..just a lot of semi educated self opinionated guess work.

When will you and the other clowns on this site get the message..nobody knows who did or did what, who is wrong and who is right? Any right thinking person, such as muskett and I worked this out ages ago.

And for seaman staynes? well in my very humble opinion the opinion of a known fraud, brown nose, sneak and nautical imposter is not worth having.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 08:45 AM

I don't get why acting like a playground bully is not boring. How old are you? (rhetorical, no need to answer.)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Musket
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 07:15 AM

I'll go for the five seconds.

Galileo wouldn't question the aspects of creation if he were a creationist.

See? No childish name calling. No winding up people of limited capacity with an autistic fixation on a few lines on a website. No f'ing, no blinding.

Boring.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 01:01 PM

>>>From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link - PM
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 12:51 PM

don firth- who are you to say how God should have done things? and on what basis ?.   you don't believe the bible record, so your only authority is your own opinion, albeit with reference to the changeable ideas of evolutionism.
the galileo thing is not as simple as you maintain, I hear , and btw, he was a creationist! <<<<

Will that be the five minute argument or the full half hour?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 12:51 PM

don firth- who are you to say how God should have done things? and on what basis ?.   you don't believe the bible record, so your only authority is your own opinion, albeit with reference to the changeable ideas of evolutionism.
the galileo thing is not as simple as you maintain, I hear , and btw, he was a creationist!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Musket
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:26 AM

When Akenaton says I support an organisation, it seems to be on the basis of knowing it exists. I also know what they set out to do. They support people who are gay in achieving the equality in society they have every legal right to. (Unless you wear a dog collar, then apparently you can feel sorry for them but just like for women, not allow them equality. Nobody said the law was perfect.)

Akenaton says in one breath that I support them and that someone who used to work for them happened to be a paedophile, so why am I supporting that organisation?

The logic behind that is rather distasteful, let alone disgusting. As the paedophile worked for them in their Scottish branch, I wonder if his logic that paedophilia and gay are linked, whether he feels paedophilia and Scottish are similarly linked?

As the moderators feel it best to call a spade an earth inverting horticultural implement, I shall refrain to comment too far about that rather extraordinary slur and perhaps ask Akenaton to help us understand what he is saying?

Perhaps he may also explain how knowing the existence leads to supporting? After all, he seems to know a hell of a lot more about them than I do...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 09:01 PM

For the benefit of Ian Mather


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 11:58 AM

Guest "Conc"......I very rarely drink alchohol. :0)

Cheeky monkey!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 11:44 AM

Ah! Grishka you have blown me cover..NOT,

Yes, it is true I know most of you lot from your posing round Folk clubs, but that is ok if that is your bag and what you do for amusement, despite the fact that you make yourselves sound and look like complete arses.!!!

I do take issue with alkenaton however, by supporting the arch sneak Jerk the sailyor...how can anyone defend or take seriously that nautical buffoon with his sneaking, brownosing and everlasting referral to the "rules".

The unmitigated gall of the "man", Calling people rude and snooty, were in effect he is one of the worst,

He should take note of the good book;"he who is without sin cast the first stone"....get it?... nitwit.?

I will say it again: disprove anything I have said about you barnacle balls, and I will up anchor and go..cant say further than that can I?...........fraud


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 08:33 AM

Ian Mather


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 08:05 AM

That should read "Scottish history".
The ring was international involving thousands of men....according to police report. Whether the ringleader was Scots, English or Australian, is immaterial in this context.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 07:47 AM

"So a paedophile used a charity for his evil ends." (Ian Mather).

You forgot to add "so what?", but that's what you meant, isn't it Ian?

Christ!.....what kind of man are you?.

This is the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland were talking about, a male homosexual organising the biggest homosexual paedophile ring in history.

This guy was actually advising insecure youngsters on sexual orientation and organising homosexual adoption in Scotland while anally raping babies.
Not just one man but a dozen of his friends and acquaintances.

Go hang your head in shame, you make light of this disgrace yet take ME to task for pointing out homosexual health rates and ways to halt an epidemic of disease.

You have the gall to report this website to THIS organisation!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 05:57 AM

Boom! boom!

Or Bum Bum to keep the Keith A hole of Hertford quip running.

All the historians will agree on my name. For that though, you need consistency Keith.

Hard luck. If you want fame, may I suggest politics? A good opportunity for people with your views to grab a quick limelight before the papers get bored with you all.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 05:47 AM

You have signed off with yet another handle.
Have you not enough names already?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 05:05 AM

So a paedophile used a charity for his evil ends.

Err.. What is your point worm?

It wouldn't be making links would it?

Barlinnie Prison is full of Scottish people. Would you make a similar link to that statement?

I notice that Jack the Sailor highlighted the word Jerk when reading out the latest set of charges to me. Ok. I will consider stopping calling you Jerk if that helps.









Jackass.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 12:26 AM

Do you know why they use the group Stonewall?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:42 PM

Sorry, link does not work...fix it to morrow.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:38 PM

LGBT Youth Scotland, used to be called Stonewall Youth Project.
Mr Rennie was chief executive of this organisation

Some further reading


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 05:16 PM

Ian, max makes the rules on this site, as far as I know there is no rule over ANY issue being discussed, except "that which must not be spoken about".
If Max or Joe PM me to say that I may not discuss Homosexual "marriage" legislation, or homosexual health rates, I will desist immediately. Until then you can keep creeping off to your friends in "Stonewall"
Just be careful who you talk to

If the big brother, thought police, world according to Ian Mather ever comes to pass, I hope I'm not still on it!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:36 PM

>>>>Of course its quite obvious to any sensible person that I have said nothing that could be construed as "hatred of homosexuals", <<<

More to the point, the case that you are inciting hatred is extremely dubious.

Whether you are incorrectly or correctly interpreting the health data, "male to male sexual contact is dangerous from a public health perspective" is hardly a war cry. More like incitement to boredom.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:11 PM

"The health figures are in the public domain,"

Disputable! And what about those nebulous "Other concerns"?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:28 PM

>>>From: GUEST,Musket - PM
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM

Worm.

I think you will find the propagation of this website in The UK belongs to the prevailing Telegraphy Act and recent legislation concerning incitement to hatred. Max has the right to publicise it. He doesn't own any publication material, merely the licence. Hence the moderation that Jerk twists to suit his agenda. In fact, you can see the disclaimer to his obligations at the foot of the page.<<<

The moderation that Ian Mather chooses to violate has again been violated by Ian Mather.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM

"Ignore all trolling"....Problem is Grishka, quite a lot of people like to see trolls attacking people who do not share their views...its a sort of proxy war, in which some members never need to get their "hands dirty"
Its really the job of the mods to sort out serious "trolling" which could destroy this section of the forum.
Jack must be given credit for taking it upon himself to remind some guests about the rules which apply here.....he has been quite successful in his mission and the bad behaviour has almost ceased.

There appears to be a little confusion among the membership as to the actual rules. Some seem to think that certain subjects should not be discussed especially if views are expressed with which they disagree.

As far as I am aware, there is no subject or issue, which is verboten!!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM

Worm.

I think you will find the propagation of this website in The UK belongs to the prevailing Telegraphy Act and recent legislation concerning incitement to hatred. Max has the right to publicise it. He doesn't own any publication material, merely the licence. Hence the moderation that Jerk twists to suit his agenda. In fact, you can see the disclaimer to his obligations at the foot of the page.

Any local council website has the referral form, also available on websites of groups such as stonewall and The Commission for Equality and Human Rights. Internet service providers have a duty to ensure reporting of breaches are dealt with.

It's very simple. In fact so simple I did it again just now.

I doubt the owner of this website will be required to pass the IP details to the state authorities to pass on, as ignorant rants from insignificant small people aren't exactly top of their list, nor the UK authorities they have sharing agreements with under UK and federal laws.

So.... Perverted, against natural law, compared to paedophiles, not wanting marriage etc etc. No, you don't seem to hate them at all. Fuck knows what hate looks like from your grim corner.......


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 12:41 PM

Jack, "concerened" believes to act in self-defence (and defence of "the disinherited"), like many others who present a poor image on Mudcat. I have no aspirations to the roles of police or judge; I just offer (modest) advice to those who wish to improve their image. The most important one is to ignore all trolling completely, totally, entirely, and without exception.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:29 AM

Grishka,

"concernered" is a persona of broadly do-gooder agenda who (most of the time) thinly disguises as a troll, in order to make mockery of threads like this one. "

That may be what she has said she is doing. But she is more making mockery of certain people than of threads "like this one" and she is unkind, impolite and argumentative when she does so. Please pardon me if you have read me saying this before. But if you click on "membership" you will find that such behavior violates the terms of conduct of this forum. If you would be so kind as to convince her to try to do whatever she is doing within the confines of behavior set by Max, I would appreciate it, lots of members would appreciate it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:16 AM

For those who missed it: "concernered" is a persona of broadly do-gooder agenda who (most of the time) thinly disguises as a troll, in order to make mockery of threads like this one. She also has a regular Mudcat membership. When she first posted as "concernered", I thought the new persona was male, "Strange Case of Ms Hyde and Mr Hyde", so to speak. Later she preferred her presumably real gender, "Ms Hyde and Ms Hyde".

Tragically, her imitation of a troll is not only lacking skill, but pointless from the beginning, since there is nothing left to be ridiculed anyway. Some do the self-ridiculing on purpose, for their own fun if nobody else's. Those who do it unintentionally may well be warned, though with little chance of success. This includes the genuine person behind the "concernered" mask. (Hint: if my memory serves me, she writes above that she knows some of the protagonists here from folk clubs ...)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerend
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 07:32 AM

Who said I was a lady? Another of your home service, telegraph reading, ginger woosy words that are propagated by the torys ...never pretended to be, all you will ever get out of me is honesty, unlike you you priggish nautical fraud..BTW how is the new badge coming along?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 05:18 PM

If Ian has if fact reported the website to the authorities, then I suppose he is in serious trouble from admin.
But I don't think he is agenda driven enough to do something so utterly stupid. He seems to be very close to "Stonewall" the homosexual rights pressure group, and perhaps he has reported the site to them hoping they will take some sort of action.

Of course its quite obvious to any sensible person that I have said nothing that could be construed as "hatred of homosexuals", and as I have said many times, I do not feel any "hatred" towards them.
The health figures are in the public domain, and Sherlock would require to interview them, before directing his Meerschaum towards me. :0).

This site is the property of Max, he makes the decisions about how it is run, I will respect any decision he makes, I will abide by the rules of this site, I will not try to affect any decisions, or pressurise admin to take action against any other member, unless they are in flagrant breach of website rules....Ake.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:38 PM

>>>Everyone can see right through you Barnacle Balls,, you gotta realise that by your ridiculous, tedious ,quoting and re;quoting of the "Rules"<<<

you pick on yourself lady.

Why don't you click "membership" read the rules and register. No one will be unkind to you. Its in the rules.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:54 PM

I do my sweet XXXXXXXX, but back to jerk the confused mariner..he really is the bees py jams aint he.?

Is there no end to his buffoonery, sneaking and toad eating?

He is still using the forum for his own snooty, self centered agenda and trys to throw every one of the scent by picking on sweetpants and myself.

He still does not get it does he?

Everyone can see right through you Barnacle Balls,, you gotta realise that by your ridiculous, tedious ,quoting and re;quoting of the "Rules"

You only justifies every ones opinion of you as the biggest, phoniest ginger bum inhabited yegg on the whole forum. Do every one a massive favor by jumping on the good ship happiness and chilling out..or ship out and visit one of the countries of your past dubious maritime voyages and maybe find a personality?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:46 PM

I don't care what either of them say about me. I just wish that they would respect this forum and its rules.


By the way, have you heard anything from the authorities where you live as a result of Ian Mather, respected health system bureaucrat, reporting this website to them?   

It seems like a story worth following. Your proclivity for imposing your own interpretations on health system data must be a top priority for the British thought police. I expect to see an episode of Sherlock exposing your sort to a stern talking to before too long.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:14 PM

Much too subtle for you Ian, I think.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:09 PM

Rather insightful from someone who would call a bucket of lard subtle?

Unfortunate for Whacko Jacko but good for my co Messiah and associated gnome (Co Messiah Emeritus) who no longer need to buy crayons.

She has me weighed up though, don't you sweetpants? xxx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:44 PM

Jack, I think guest our "GUEST" concerned may be playing a much more subtle game than we realise.

Unfotunate that you appear to be the chosen catalyst in this game.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 11:21 AM

>>>Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened - PM
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 11:15 AM

Blah!! blah!!! blah!!!blabitty blah!!!...the same old judgmental, priggish, right wing crap from the biggest asshole on Mudcat with the smallest mind..who would that be I hear you ask?

Why, none other than our resident sneak and all round self elected thread policeman, yes folks, old seaman staynes the nautical prig and tale bearer..

Check out the other threads, were, equipped with his ever ready shit eating grin and his trusty Mudcat rule book, he is trumpeting the alleged injustice of some people not following his rules!!!!

"You are allowed to express unpopular opinion. You are not allowed to be an argumentative, name calling jerk. " who gives you the right , phony?<<<<

Max gives me the right. The forum gives me the right. You, on the other hand, are breaking the rules. To confirm this. Please read the posted terms of membership below.

Log In (Reset Cookie) - Log Out

Be aware that our forum is Free.

Anonymity and Guest Posting are permitted.

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 11:15 AM

Blah!! blah!!! blah!!!blabitty blah!!!...the same old judgmental, priggish, right wing crap from the biggest asshole on Mudcat with the smallest mind..who would that be I hear you ask?

Why, none other than our resident sneak and all round self elected thread policeman, yes folks, old seaman staynes the nautical prig and tale bearer..

Check out the other threads, were, equipped with his ever ready shit eating grin and his trusty Mudcat rule book, he is trumpeting the alleged injustice of some people not following his rules!!!!

"You are allowed to express unpopular opinion. You are not allowed to be an argumentative, name calling jerk. " who gives you the right , phony?


It is you, barnacle balls, who are showing disrespect and ingratitude by ignoring a simple request by me to challenge my justifiable comments to you.


As I said if you can, I will leave this thread forever..but from your past record I guess I will have a long wait?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:10 AM

Interesting Don.

On the basis he might exist, his followers use the word omnipotent whilst demonstrating him as largely impotent.

If there is intelligent design in some way, our present situation, in my humble opinion, is the result of a process not a will.

The established religion idea doesn't get past first base. If you demand rather than earn credibility, people will dismiss you more than ever these days. Education and access to information is largely replacing superstition. People may feel the need for a comfort blanket and why not? But a blanket that doesn't have answers scrawled on it doesn't allow you to be a hoopy frood who knows where his towel is.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 03:27 PM

Pete, when Galileo managed to cobble together a telescope and directly examined some of the "heavenly bodies," what he SAW verified the theory of Copernicus, that the earth revolved around the sun, not the other way around. So the earth could NOT be the center of the universe as was the conventional teaching of the time.

The CHURCH hauled him before the Inquisition and made him say that his observations were in error, under threat of being burned at the stake if he didn't. Galileo, taking the discrete route, allowed as how he might have been in error, thus saving his life—while knowing that sooner or later, scientists to come would verify that he had been right.

But the Church sure put a crimp in Galileo's scientific studies.

Science neither affirms nor denies the existence of God. The problem is narrow minded literalists who can't see the bigger picture, and lack imagination.

God MIGHT be a whole lot more omniscient and omnipotent that most religious people imagine.

Don Firth


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 02:56 PM

pete, I am not sure that I can tolerate your blasphemy. :-) You seem to be implying that God was such a poor planner and sloppy engineer that he had to create the same thing twice.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 02:37 PM

Jack....all you need for day and night is a revolving globe and a light source. This divided day from night.....sun created...divided day from night....both, no contradiction.       Newton and other creationists believed he done it ,but it certainly did not hamper their science!.........anymore problems with Noah and the animals?!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 03:35 AM

It's the fourth day Jack.

No, seriously. It is. Note I called you Jack not Jerk in order to demonstrate my sincerity in this theological matter.

You see, if pete can come up with definitive conclusions from the first book in the genre science fantasy, so can I. Don't get me started on books further along the evolutionary literature scale. Michael Moorcock? I've shit 'em.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 03:28 AM

Bless you and your wobbly bits xxxx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerend
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 08:00 PM

1801?????????? see fraud ...others can play at your gingerwoosy game

Nice thoughtful post as usual sweetcheeks...I love seeing others leg this nautical gobshite up.....TEe Hee!!!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 06:22 PM

1800??????


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 02:48 PM

pete I've read it often enough and I've read analysis often enough.

The Bible just does not work as a science text. If you just assume that God "can" do all of these things you toss away the importance of describing what he did. Oh yeah, well God just DID it. Don't ask how!   

Genesis says that God divided the night from the day 3 days before he created the sun. In the Universe that exists today, what is day and night and how are they divided?

The account also says that he divided the day from the night twice, on the first day and then on the fourth. If every thing in the Bible is true and the unerring word of God. Which is it. the first day or the fourth?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 01:34 PM

Jack, if you read the bible ,I think you might see that the animals were bought to Noah, he did not have to round them up........the generations I mentioned were not the genealogies and other biblical data, but of animal life, though I accept that the generations of men can be better estimated from the biblical data and other records.    The point is ,that there were several hundred yrs for animals to distribute globally....and I remind you that what you are challenging there, is evolutionary talk too!   The part that man played is only part of the overal picture of the movements........I would like to think that your misunderstanding is unintentional, or that I was not clear enough.          If you read your bible, or when I should say, you will know who it is that is described as light in whom there is no darkness at all.   Do you think that he is unable to provide a light source before the sun was created on day three?    And do you not think that the biblical writer/ compiler did not realise that light now comes from the sun. If anything, what you claim discredits genesis testifies to its genuineness.   I will try to be clearer, and maybe you might need to read more carefully too.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 12:46 PM

your point is?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 12:43 PM

Look, it's like this.

Take concerened (sic) for instance. It is obvious that she has me weighed up, so why not you? Go with the flow and you will feel better for it.

You might feel more happy about addressing people's observations of where you are coming from rather than your somewhat tedious referrals to fictitious rules.

Militant atheism isn't a religion but religions usually start by someone enforcing arbitrary, often self serving rules. You seem to be getting further than the co Messiahs and associated gnome (honorary co Messiah Emeritus.). If that's your aim, I take my hat off to you.

Doubt I'll be praying at your altar though all the same.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

 


This Thread Is Closed.


Mudcat time: 2 June 11:55 AM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.