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Subject: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 04:49 PM

I hope everyone from N. Jersey on North has lots of TP and bread & milk (or whatever you prefer to drink in nasty weather). Looks like it's gonna be 'interesting'.



We down here in DC seem to have dodged this one, but the Winter ain't over yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:06 PM

Got bread, got frozen chicken pot pie, lasagne, vegetables, canned soup, and all sorts of food. Got water, got coffee and condiments, got toilet paper (important to have even when it's not going to snow), and also bought a snow rake. Every year so far, I realize I need one when all the hardware stores are sold out. THIS year, the store had a load of them, and one came home with me. Put seed in the bird feeder earlier, and filled my car up with gas.

If my power goes out and is expected to remain so for a while, I will shovel out, rake the roof, and bugger off somewhere where there's power. I probably don't have enough money to go get to, and hang out in southern Italy until spring, but I can dream.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:28 PM

Electric stove, or gas?

We have electric in the kitchen, but in a real emergency (2 days or more of no power) I have an old gas range in part of my basement workshop..[used to be an apartment].. that I can uncover, turn on, and use by light of LED lamps. Have used it 3 times in 20 years.

I keep intending to keep a bag of charcoal for cooking outside, On back porch) but keep forgetting.

Y'all stay warm & safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:33 PM

Thanks, Bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:34 PM

Looks like a mess of a storm... If New York City gets a foot it will all but shut it down as there is no way to plow that much snow... I recall the last time they had big snows and it all had to be removed and trucked off... Seems they put it on barges and took it out of the harbor and dumped it in the Hudson River???

Any Boston Catters??? Run fast!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:53 PM

We're in Midcoast Maine. We have a propane range, as well as our excellent woodstove that provides our daily heat and is designed to be cooked upon. We have extra feed and water for the chickens and have insulated their coop with hay and plastic. We always have snow shovels, roof rakes, oil lamps, kerosene, candles, fire extinguishers, LED lamps, battery lamps that light up when the power fails, working smoke alarms, charcoal for the BBQ outside, and many gallons of water for drinking, cooking, flushing, and washing. We have cooked, frozen, canned, and dried food, fuel, chainsaws, axes, weather radios, batteries, a full range of first aid supplies, sand and salt for ice, generator (used to pump water after the fire), five cords of firewood in the basement and more outside, and best of all, each another. As the storm swirls around outside we'll check in with neighbors in case they are in need of a helping hand.

The power never fails for long enough for me. I love the peace.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 06:41 PM

This one moved further and further east and further and further north and we won't get much of nothin' except grey ols winter days with spits of snow and wind.....typical Ohio. We had about 6 inches this past week so its pretty and all without being too m=uch of a pain in the ass.

To all of the N.E. and Maine contingent.......Stay warm and safe.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 06:55 PM

I'm not too far (maybe 60 miles?) north of Boston. We're gonna get dumped on. Oddly enough, nice, cold snow isn't much of a cause of power outages. Wet snow and wind IS. I don't think those things are in the forecast.

I have an electric stove, Bill. I WISH it was gas!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 06:59 PM

Wind is indeed part of this two-storm system, Jeri. Although hurricane warnings have been dropped for the offshore region of Maine, the combination of the two fronts is still considered a blizzard with strong winds, stronger gusts, and deep drifts expected.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

Hope the wind blows the snow off the trees and power lines and that's all it does. The wind on its own can cause problems, but snow that piles up on trees until they break and kill power lines/poles is the major threat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 07:13 PM

Stay safe. Stay warm. Stay happy(with good cause).


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 07:23 PM

My weather program (Weather Mate) (set for Boston) says it will go below freezing...down to 22F.. Friday night, and stay that way thru Sat... which will help a bit avoiding sticking to lines & trees. I suppose that the wind will be a mixed blessing.
Warmer and sunny on Sunday, and staying warm first of the week, so lots of melting and refreezing at night.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: DebC
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 07:23 PM

I am usually in Central Massachusetts, but right now in rainy So. California. But it's warm!

Deb Cowan


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 07:30 PM

We're ready for the storm - food and drink supplies are always topped up and we do have a generator, as we have gas heating, which requires electric to work. Got the start of pea soup on the go for lunch. I'm planning on spending Saturday morning in bed with a good book.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 08:30 PM

Stay warm and safe, everyone!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 08:34 PM

What New England gets one day New Scotland usually will get the next. I have a portable generator, 3 propane heaters, an oil lamp collection, food, rum and six guitars. Sorry, only five guitars as one is in for repair. God help me, I may be reduced to playing the banjo!
Sometimes these coastal storm centres swing into the Bay Of Fundy, giving us rain and dumping the snow on gnu. I can only hope! Sorry gnu but survival trumps friendship! :-}


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Janie
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 09:35 PM

Run for maeve's, Jeri. They are gonna be plum cozy.

I posted this once before, but it didn't take. Y'all northern folks all stay safe!

Jeri,

I have one of these just for times when the power goes out for several days due to ice storms. Cheap. I don't eat much stuff out of cans, but do keep stuff like canned beans and corn, Uncle Ben's quick cooking converted brown rice, canned chicken and tuna, hearty soups, and "shudder" boxes of mac and cheese mixes, evaporated milk, quick cooking oatmeal or cream of wheat, etc., on hand for emergency supplies, as well as a small single cup cone coffee filter. Stuff that can be easily be made into small one-pot meals and that doesn't require refrigeration when the power goes out for extended periods, and that doesn't take long to cook. Those little propane cannisters aren't cheap, so I don't want to set something cooking that is going to take time and propane.

I also have a couple of small propane heaters that a 1 lb bottle of propane screws into. My house is small, and so are the rooms, so one room can be closed off and kept warm enough. Won't keep the pipes from freezing though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 09:55 PM

Yep, that's similar to the propane burner I have. I mostly just go to where there's coffee, and food, and electricity. I'm a wimp.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 10:12 PM

New France (aka Acadia) and New Scotland (latin, of course for Nova Scotia) will possibly get hit also, on Saturday/Sunday.

(Oh, I mean the Maritime provinces of Canada:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 10:17 PM

Good Lord! Youse are at it too?

WEATHER TERRORISTS!

It's a foot of snow and some wind fer gosh sake! Where the heck did youse grow up? I am in Moncton, NB.ca This is where your snow "storms" stall and stay. They pass by youse and come up the Bay of Fundy... hit the isthmus and STALL (see Sandy's post). I have seen 3 days of heavy snow and had to squeeze out the back door and ROLL on the snow to get snowshoes on so I could shovel snow so we could see out the living room window.

A FOOT of snow? A BIT of a wind? (or even TWICE that???)I am not saying it couldn't turn into a real Noreaster but I think I'll save the panic for when it's required. Even then, from the posts above, none of you are as prepared as I am... any of you cook a big boiled dinner yet?

Am I the only one who thinks it's JUST winter in this neck of the woods? and it ain't near as bad as it used to be? Seriously... a wee bit of snow and wind? I thought all the hype was just TV stuff... more viewers = more advertising $.

Are youse really fearful of this WEE bit of weather or is it just that you are cautious about what could happen (valid point)?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 10:28 PM

Two feet, gnu.

I'm not worried, just talking out the planning. I really wish they'd do something so we didn't have the usual 3 or so day power outages. The cold can get bad, but I get bored out of my skin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 11:01 PM

Our local forcasters have been giggling happily over the prospect that we might get some moisture within the next few days. One guy said "maybe as much as 0.1 inch!!!!".

Meanwhile our underground reservoir is down 4 feet for the year in the western half of the state, and about half that here. Replenishment rate in a "normal" year is about 1 inch per year for either end of it, but we haven't had one of those "normal" ones for quite a while.

Whether you really need a jacket to go shopping depends on the time of day, but it's cool enough for the last couple of weeks to be a good idea to at least have one in the truck.

We'd love to have to worry about a real bunch of miserable weather, but by the time any such stuff arrives it'll prob'ly just be dry twisters.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 12:41 AM

Jeri... I can see your concern. I haven't even really HAD to run the genie for Mum's house since I got it installed. Gee... last time we had a real Nor'easter was in 92 when we had over 5' in less than a day.

I suppose I shouldn't vent the way I do about these storms but it just seems the media hypes them up to "make news"... thereby scaring the crap out of the elderly. Mum was upset as of supper time news yesterday and not a flake will fall until after midnight tomorrow night... can't... too fuckin cold!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ragdall
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 01:18 AM

Stay safe and warm, everyone.

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 07:18 AM

We have our house set up to care for anyone needing shelter... thus our careful preparation for any emergency. Snowfall for this one could easily be over two feet of snow with very strong winds and bitter cold. Many of our neighbors are in poor housing and have no emergency heating and no way to stock up on food and water.

Mind you, we have no patience for fear-mongers on the tele for the reasons you mention. Those of us who have lived through severe weather in the past know to be prepared well ahead of time, but lots of folks are out of practice and/or overly dependent upon electricity. This area was without electricity for over two weeks after the ice storm about 10 years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 07:51 AM

We don't normally get much snow in Halifax NS- But that was not the case in 2004-when a similar "perfect storm hit and dumped massive snow on us. Here is an account from Environment Canada's weather web site:

""White Juan 2004 Halifax
Forecasters called it an old-fashioned nor'easter but for most Maritimers it was Hurricane Juan in sheep's clothing. They dubbed it White Juan - a hurricane disguised as a blizzard. Late on February 17, an ordinary winter storm centred over Cape Hatteras, North Carolina suddenly intensified over the Gulf Stream before striking the Maritimes. Its central pressure, one mark of a storm's intensity, plunged 57 mb in 42 hours, making it one of the most explosive weather bombs ever - even more powerful than its namesake Hurricane Juan that struck the same area five months earlier. Huge, lumbering White Juan packed quite a weather wallop - heavy snows, fierce winds gusting to 124 km/h and zero visibility.

Snow fell at a phenomenal rate of five centimetres per hour for 12 straight hours. Blowing snow and high winds maintained blizzard conditions for a day or more and created monstrous drifts as tall as three metres. Halifax, Yarmouth and Charlottetown broke all-time 24-hour snowfall records, receiving almost a metre of snow. For Halifax, the 88.5 cm of snow on February 19 nearly doubled its previous record for a single day. More significantly, with over 300,000 people, it is now likely the largest city in the world to ever receive such a dump of snow in one day. Buffalo, Fargo and Boise move over! Halifax is the world's new snow king.

Almost at once, the southern Maritimes became a winter wasteland. For the first time in history, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island declared province-wide states of emergency lasting four days. Halifax issued a nightly nine-hour curfew over three days for all but essential workers in order to give them a fighting chance to clear the snow - estimated to weigh six million tonnes. When Toronto was hit with its "storm of the century" it called in the army, but hardy Maritimers organized neighbourhood work parties to dig themselves out. Streets were deserted for days. Huge drifts reduced four-lane boulevards to narrow walking paths. The Confederation Bridge was closed to all traffic for only the second time ever. The volume and density of the snow was so heavily packed that plows hit mounds of snow and literally bounced back. It took almost a week before bus and ferry service resumed and schools re-opened, leaving students with a record year for the number for lost days due to weather (up to ten in some districts). Miraculously, there were no serious injuries or deaths, just a million unforgettable stories""


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 07:56 AM

At least three days of food and water, rotated regularly. Propane or other alternate stove for cooking, and lot and lots of lovely homemade quilts with which to wrap up and stay warm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Charmion
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 08:02 AM

CBC Ottawa is promising Snowmageddon, but Environment Canada is forecasting a mere 15 cm at most for eastern Ontario. Edmund put the small shovel in the car when he headed out to work this morning, and that's probably more of a good luck charm than a necessary precaution.

All the same, I'll take my spiked stick when I go to the fishmonger's this afternoon. The lumps of ice on the sidewalks are a real menace to pedestrians at the best of times, and potentially lethal when covered with fresh snow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 08:48 AM

We have food and water in stock. My new place loses power with a strong sneeze, so I fully expect it to happen at some point. If it stays off for too long I will just dogsled (or in my case catsled) to my sister's house 4 blocks over where there be a generator.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:01 AM

Here in south Quebec we're supposed to get somewhere between 1 cm and 2 meters of snow. The temperature will be between -40 C and +10 C. Winds will be between 50 km/hr and -5 km/hr. Clear skies by noon but maybe not.

The whole situation reminds me of a quip I heard from a comedian:

Q What's the weather like?

A You got a window, open it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:06 AM

I took my mail to the PO this morning instead of putting it in the mailbox, which might get buried... or killed again by the town plow.

Hype is good for only one thing: get the stupid people to listen and not go hang out at the beach during a hurricane or start driving a long distance in a blizzard. There are always a few. Some panic, but know how to stay safe, and some are stupid and die.

If you're smart, these things are nothing to be afraid of.
Me complaining, however,...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:09 AM

999, I hope your Hawaiian shirt goes with your snow boots...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:12 AM

At 6am this morning we had about 2-3 inches of new snow and it's still coming, with the real stuff due in this evening and tomorrow. Kendall's a bit concerned about whether the snow blower will be able to handle two foot of snow so will be watching it pile up and may have to get out while it' still coming down and clear some of it off the driveway. Meanwhile this wimpy Brit is staying indoors for the duration.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:23 AM

I can still see some unhappy brown grass amidst the new dusting of snow. If it were more windy here, I'd say it was blowing up to Maine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:23 AM

gnu, you and me buddy. All this unnecessary hoorah is just that. We've lived much of our lives with newspapers and radio instead of TV and internet. The newspapers told us about the storm we just went through, and if the radio people were broadcasting we knew someone somewhere was getting into work so we'd go into work too. We went through some doozie storms and no one ever got all in a tizzy about it. Our parents sent us to check on elderly people to see if they needed anything and we shoveled their doorways and walks and brought in their wood or coal because we were instructed to do that, and if we got a scoff of cookies and tea or warm milk we said thank you. And if we accepted a nickel or dime for our efforts we got a clip on the ear and had to take it back with our apologies for having been such opportunistic cads to have accepted it in the first place. It's snowing here, btw, and it will continue until it stops.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:25 AM

Folks living directly along the Maine coast may also have high tide flooding Saturday morning.

The question is whether 999's shirts coordinate with his socks?
Photo at Maeve's link is here. --Mod


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:27 AM

As of 7am today approximately 5 miles away, Jacqui, I shoveled the walkway using only one hand because it's very light and fluffy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: maeve
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 10:10 AM

If any of my posts here fit the description of 'unnecessary hoorah' I apologise. My intent is to inform, not frighten, and if I could delete my posts I would.

It's sensible to be prepared for severe weather, but one's long experience and frustration with overblown warnings ought not make those with an interest or concern about storms feel foolish. I do prepare as a matter of course, I do feel vulnerable to danger since an event here, and now I do feel foolish for having entered the discussion in the first place.

Bye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 10:15 AM

My post was addressed to gnu. We are in Canada and not actually part of this thread. Of course it's wise to be prepared. No one said otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 10:16 AM

I drove my car to the post office and the snow blew off. Similar things are happening on the neighbor's roof. One can hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: bobad
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 10:25 AM

An example of what 999 was speaking of: Snow Panic Has Driven Weather.com Completely Insane


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 11:07 AM

I'm with you, Gnu. It's February, fer-pete's-sake! Snow is to be expected, even though the past two winters have been "open" winters with very little snow. And this is going to be SNOW -- not "wintry mix", not snow turning to rain. It's not going to be THAT cold (not summer, but 40°F by Tuesday) and it's supposed to be light and FLUFFY, not sodden heavy wire-pulling-down crap.

Okay, it'll be windy so there'll be drifting.

I think the worse problem will be high tide Saturday morning in Hampton, NH around 10. And further up the coast. High tide with the wind behind it.

But I'm not only inland, but a bit uphill, too, from the coast.

As usual, in case of power failure (altogether too common since we're with the Co-op where the power goes out if a butterfly slams into a pole), we've got water, beer, food that can be eaten cold, batteries, everything that needs charging is charged, firewood and a woodstove.

Winter of 2007-2008 it snowed every third day. I remember it well as I broke my arm in December and we HAD to plow the driveway each and every time it snowed so I could get to doctors, etc. You'd just get it cleaned up and we'd have another 6+ inches.

There's a lot of talk lately about New England's "Blizzard of '78" -- the anniversary was Feb. 6. I was living in Cape Porpoise, Maine at the time and managing a year-round shop in Kennebunkport. Not so much snow as the rest of New England, but ice and flooding. Some of the highest tides of the year, high storm surge and the wind pushing it. The Lord's Point Inn washed out to sea. We (on Cape Porpoise) were an island -- Back Cove and Porpoise Cove met...again. What a lot of people forget is we had practice a month previous with the storm of January 9th. Yesterday morning I reread my clipping from the York County Coast Star of all the coastal damage in Maine. When the river started coming through the floorboards of the shop, I got wires off the floor, secured the place and waded out to my ride home, getting there before the Cape was cut off. Reminded myself with the picture in the paper of the amount of water at the foot of my road.

In the early April storm of 1982, Tom and I were snowed in here in Nottingham for over three days (while my boss fretted). Heavy, wet snow -- that's the stuff I hate. And even with the town clerk living next door (Nottingham was shut down until she could get out), it was 3 days before they finally got a front end loader through the road. And it got stuck just above us.

This nor'easter is certainly not going to be as annoying as it could be. But we don't intend to drive to Portsmouth for the Press Room session this afternoon. The beautiful part of "retirement" is I don't have to drive when the weather sucks. We'll have to make music at home.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 11:24 AM

It's not supposed to really start to suck until tonight. "Winds 50 to 100 MPH". Sheesh--don't know why that plus maybe three feet of snow might be a problem. Still, if I have power, and my house doesn't become partially or entirely airborne, I have no problem at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 11:32 AM

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=NH&prodtype=zone


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 11:57 AM

The news and weather forecasters hype it up here as well. Weather warnings for snow in January and February. Or winter, as its always been known... We had about 5 inches a couple of weeks ago which had all melted after 6 days and people were clearing the supermarket shelves. Crazy.

Anyaway, hope you're all okay up there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bettynh
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 12:23 PM

I was in Worcester during the storm of '78, and I can forgive the hype this time. The thing about that storm was the timing - kids were in school, folks were at work when it started to snow 2 inches/hour. By the time everyone looked up, they all headed home at the same time, completely clogging Route 128, the beltway around Boston. Took a week or more to rescue all the folks and tow away all the stranded cars. This time, schools are closed and folks are warned to stay home. If we do get those drifts and heavy snow (there were 10 foot drifts in my driveway in '78) at least the plows will be able to get to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 12:26 PM

I think a lot of people can't remember what happened last month, let alone last year or further. Of course, we've had two pretty much snowless winters the past two years. December's 14" a few days after Christmas was more snow than the past two winters combined. That's NOT normal (historically, at least) for New Hampshire. But there IS such a thing as climate change...

This nor'easter looks like it will be on the slightly better side of "normal" -- at least it's going to be fluffyish snow and not going to be rained on. And the higher winds should keep it from piling up on trees and power lines.

I rather wish it wouldn't interfere with this evening's regular Friday session at The Press Room, though. I've got photos from the '80s to pass around and a book for a friend that I forgot last week. Ah well. 'Twill wait for next Friday...

I just warned the banjo-wielding holder down of the south end of the table that we prolly won't be there.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 01:15 PM

Thanks for the NOAA link, 9. Looks like we might get a significant bit of the snow on Saturday.

I was telling a guy I work with that I was planning on making his gig in Portsmouth tomorrow night, but the storm would go through Saturday and I thought it might get cancelled. He said it was all going to be over on Friday. I hope it works out.

I understand what will probably happen. It will snow a lot, it will be cold and the wind will blow like crazy. And the next day, I'll see if I can open my door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 01:20 PM

It seems Boston will take a hit, but hey, Boston deserves it. They had two light winters. You guys otoh seem to be getting more than your fair share. Just keep warm and the rest will happen as it happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 01:26 PM

Nope, Jeri. All the weather sources have been saying the majority of the snow won't start until tonight and go well into tomorrow. It shouldn't even start tapering off until tomorrow afternoon.

But, hey, it's only a foot or possibly two at the most around here.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 02:47 PM

I guess you meant, "Yep, Jeri."
I'm done with work for now, so I won't know how it turned out, but I'd guess only locals and hotel guests would go, and HE would have to drive through the aftermath. Of course, I can think of worse places to get snowed in at than a Hilton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 03:15 PM

I woke up this morning and saw three inches down already, said "Screw it" and went back to sleep. Hate to use vacation time but it seemed pointless to go and have them close early anyway. 19 car pile up in Falmouth. It's snow folks. Slow down and drive sensibly.
Meantime I have a bottle of champagne, some brie and whatever else is in. Bringing the feather bed down from the guest room so if we lose power I will be warm. That's a given here in South Portland, traditional really.
Other than that I hope the basement doesn't flood.
And clearing the snow away from the back door hourly is a nuisance but i prefer having an exit.
Stay warm all.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 04:01 PM

Champagne and brie! And here I am stuck in Scarborough and unable to foist myself on my buddy!

Kendall's out snow blowing right now - he was a bit concerned about letting it really build up before James comes tomorrow to do the job. Looking at the way things are going there will be enough to keep James busy tomorrow, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 04:17 PM

I went out and shoveled some of it. Skiers will be going nuts--it's all powder. Nice, light, poofy snow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 05:36 PM

Poofy is good... great heaps of poofy can be tedious.

I keep watching the weather guy on CNN explaining the situation, and my first thought is for all those on Long Island, etc... who are still homeless and not recovered from Sandy.

Y'all take care!~


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 05:40 PM

9.... -5kph! hahahahaa!

Yeah, the hype pisses me off. Been complaining about it for years. It's all about selling time slots for advertising in real time 0based on how many viewers they can sell higher cost slots to. Currently scaring Mum with predicting TWICE as much snow as Environment Canada is predicting.

9.... takin that nickel back! That takes me back! I lived near the "chicken factory" on Robinson Street for a few months when I was
9 years old. When a truckload of chickens were delivered in cages, many would escape and there would be eggs to be had... we first filled out pockets with eggs and then went after the chickens that would head for a patch of alders. I was proud of myself for being able to carry eggs in my pockets and chase chickens thru the alders with getting any of the eggs broken in my pockets. First time I sold a chicken (2 actually, for 25p each), I proudly presented the 50p to me mere and was told to take it back and apologize. After that, I went after the chickens, not the eggs, and brought them straight to me mere. She was cool with that. >:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 06:46 PM

It's going to be an expensive storm - plow guy has been here twice and shovelled the back out. Escape rout if I need it. Some of you know Ralph, my neighbor. He loves this stuff. Was out in the AM shovelling; was out in the afternoon shovelling; is out now snow blowing. All for naught. The wind just blows it back.
I will slep in tomorrow. If you can get over here Jacqui, I will share the brie and champagne. Better come early.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 06:50 PM

EC in Moncton, NB still sayin 15cm... TV weather terrorists still sayin 30cm. No mind a me. I am good for two years if 6 inches of snow and a slight wind devastates the rest of civilization. I am a Boy Sprout... always prepared.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 07:17 PM

After dessert, I'll take a sip of something upstairs and read either a book on English cottage gardens or make some headway in a book of short stories.

Then, after I set up the coffee for tomorrow morning (I think we'll have power), I'll read aloud to Tom before tucking him in and putting the house to bed. We're reading Richardson Wright's 1943 "The Bed-Book of Eating and Drinking", a true delight (as are all of Richardson Wright's books).

Not sure what I'll take upstairs to sip, maybe a bottle of Leinenkugel's Snowdrift Vanilla Porter. I don't like it with food, but I think it will go well as a nightcap.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 08:11 PM

Linn, that beer sounds good. I'll have to look for it. Yesterday I loaded up on library books and bought a bottle of port!

My Rhode Island home is a little more than an hour south of Boston, and I think here the hype was justified. It is good to see people preparing in a way they didn't during '78. I have food which doesn't need heating, but if the power goes out I will have no heat. Some people, mostly in southern RI, are already without power. My lights have flickered a few times, and the storm won't peak for a few hours and will last hours longer. I know the winds are too strong for workers to be allowed to work on power lines. I have a wind-up flashlight and a wind-up radio. We have blizzard conditions. The governors of MA and CT ordered all vehicles except for emergency and service vehicles off the roads as of 4 PM: RI's governor ordered that as of 5 PM. We are expecting two feet or more of snow but much higher drifts because of the wind. If I do lose power and the house gets cold, I'll move myself into the bathroom located in the center of my condo unit. I'll put a yoga mat on the floor. It'll be tight, but I can sleep there. On an older thread, someone (gnu, maybe?) posted about a MotoMaster eliminator. I looked for it or something similar at several places, including some I hate to go to because of the way they treat employees, but I couldn't find it or anything similar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 08:27 PM

We in southwestern New Hampshire, where it's blowing a gale and the snow is drifting so it's hard to see how much has fallen. Miraculously we still have power and (spotty) internet. But I'm going to grind my dear man's coffee beans next, in case of dreaded outages. We have a gas stove, wood stove, many gallons of water stored correctly, plenty of food and books and musical instruments and knitting to keep us occupied for the next few days.

Wishing all of us north-easterners a safe passage through it all!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 08:49 PM

CL... twas I. I am sure you can find such a power box locally. Just be advised that one shouldn't rely on such for anymore that a light source with one a them there new fangled light bulbs and powering a PC to check with your power company on the net about the expected end to the power outage. I have five of them so I can keep Mum's TV on for 6 hours, a light for her on for two days and I can check on the outage at one hour intervals for two days. In hot or cold weather, I fire up the genie after 6 hours to heat or cool her house. Me... I have a wood stove to keep the pipes from freezing and have enough wood to do that for 4 months. And, I have a maple tree in my back yard and two bucksaws in my garage. I also have dog treats... my neighbour's dog is a small dog, but he'll do in a pinch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:01 PM

Nothing started in Cape Breton yet but weekend jam sessions and concerts are being cancelled. I had an in home jam with a few friends this PM so have at least got a part of my usual weekend fix.
Chanty, MotoMaster is a Canadian Tire Store brand name and they use "Eliminator" for their power products. For some strange reason I have a Hell of a problem locating a Canadian Tire store in the USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:15 PM

Maybe search "Chinese Tire"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:36 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 08 Feb 13 - 09:38 PM

Ah so gnu!
Sorry for shooting a blank!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Janie
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 12:38 AM

Hype? thoughtful comment.

Mayhap the impact will be lower because of greater preparedness. Y'll stay warm and sing to yourselves to avoid boredom!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 07:10 AM

How are ya now? Hope yas all got power. That's the worst part of any storm... the wind. Blowin about 40 to 80 kph here so it ain't bad. Driftin but I stay on top of keepin mum's back door (ground level and facin S30W so a NE wind can drift half way up the door if left unchecked).

Hope yas all report in if yas can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 07:24 AM

Lot of silliness about nearly nothing. We (west side of Vermont, just south of halfway up) appear to have gotten maybe 5 or 6 inches of snow, but hard to tell because it blew around so much. Lot of wind, but not enough to knock out power or anything, at least here in the village. We'll probably get a REAL storm next week, or the week after, with no warning at all.

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 07:48 AM

Well, we have power, which I had a feeling we'd have. But I'm downstairs a bit earlier than usual, coffee's made, checking here, and I'll start the scrambled eggs with cream cheese soon...just in case.

Doesn't appear to be a hug amount of snow...more than a foot, perhaps, less than two feet. But it's still snowing and blowing...definitely a lot of drifting, so it's hard to tell from the door to the deck. My plow guy plowed last night around 9, but you'd never know it to look at it.

Snow is drifted in the corners of ALL the windows on ALL sides of the house, which certainly is a commentary on the wind. Interesting patterns on the door as welll.

Didn't drink the porter last night...had a yen for a tropical drink and discovered I had rum, orange juice, falernum, grenadine and limes and maraschino cherries, so I sipped Planter's Punch. I even had a tropical swizzle stick (though no little paper umbrella). And I read last month's issue of Vanity Fair instead of about English cottage gardens. Finished the night reading Richardson Wright to Tom, though. What a lovely book!

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:12 AM

Ditto everything Linn said, except for the drink. The power didn't go out all night. I'd turned the heat up so if it DID go out, I'd take longer to freeze to death. It was uncomfortably warm for sleeping, but could have been worse. The migraine is here, but as migraines go, it's fairly manageable.

I can't tell how much snow came down. As Linn said, it's drifting all over the place. But the wind did a great job blowing the stuff off trees and, hopefully, my roof. We didn't get the wet stuff the more southern and beachward places got, so the cold is a good thing. About the only thing I know I have to fix is the dome thing on one bird feeder that's come un-screwed, but isn't in any danger of falling and trapping a bird (did that once) because it's being held up by a big seed cylinder.

I haven't heard or seen any traffic outside other than the plow. Good!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:17 AM

My son in Beverly Mass., posted last night that he's in a winter wonderland. Not heard anymore this morning yet. Michael my 10 YO grandson should enjoy it though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:20 AM

Yesterday I was busy watching the snow fall, so I come here this morning and find amusement in the title - ---"...for New England". Well, Gnu and Sandy and I are not in New England. The world does not stop at that political border! My Canadian Tire booster lives in my car at all times and ... Picture me amused by the insular thinking of some of those south of the border. Even the term Northeast would not have sufficed. Ontario was in the thick of it also. Ah! I phoned a friend whom I can never reach - in 3 years I have had wonderful conversations with her husband. Hah! She was home because she could not go anywhere! A positive result of the storm!!

And I know you will excuse me for not going all the way back to the beginning to see if this geographical issue was already a comment...

Our music was cancelled last night, down in Ormstown, Quebec. And getting out of Montreal was too much of a horror for R to contemplate. The good news was our wonderful neighbour who comes and plows our driveway, gratis! I call him the "snow fairy". Good neighbours are such a gift!

The world is beautifully white this morning, and chilly. But I am cosy in the cabin and hoping R gets down in time to pay for the stove wood to be delivered this afternoon!

Hope everyone else is also cosy and enjoying the beauties of nature!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:24 AM

Great to hear the good reports. We have that "can't catch yer breath" kinda wind gusts but no white-outs as the houses and buildings break up the continuity of the drifting snow... all-in-all nearly a medium Noreaster with a total of a foot, maybe a bit more, of snow. It's all good here.

"... discovered I had rum, orange juice, falernum, grenadine and limes and maraschino cherries..." Discovered? Sounds to me you had it well planned! >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:24 AM

Snowed a bit overnight (couple of inches) in coastal Nova Scoptia-not that bad, but it was windy (now subsided). Some drifts and bare spots, not enough to stop traffic. It looks like there may be some freezing rain this afternoon. Hopefully the worst of it is over and it was not up to what was projected.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:34 AM

We still have power, in spite of the wind and we have over a foot of snow, although it's difficult to tell, due to the drifting. One car is totally covered, the other is wrapped around with the white stuff. There's about 6-8" drift outside the door right now and it's still snowing.

It is the fluffy stuff, which will be easier to manage but, since neither of us have any reason to have to go out I guess we can stay in and warm until the storm ends.

I put some photos on Facebook.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:01 AM

We got a foot of snow in Ormstown. It's all cleared now. Not a big deal. It is a big deal for cities because things get screwed up real fast. I'm guessing Montreal will take three days to get stuff back to normal--with luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:17 AM

Sniff...

No snow here in Wingate, North Carolina... Just sun and going up to 57 degrees this afternoon...

I mean, yeah, I don't miss those deep snows but I wouldn't mind a few inches...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:27 AM

Did you guys who are talking about Canada not being included have a blizzard warning? Serious question. The maps on TV here mostly DID stop at the border, but it looked like the storm didn't go up there too far. It looked like it traveled up the NE coast and is currently heading out to sea. A blizzard is not ANY snowstorm.

That said, it was about what I expected. Hurricane Sandy was more of a threat, although it was comparatively warm then. ChantyLass would be one who might have been hit hard.

(And I think I keep posting because I'm avoiding going out in it.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:29 AM

Our plow guy came about an hour ago, but it's snowing more now than it was yesterday afternoon.

Right now (after breakfast) I'm heading back upstairs to bed, either to read or nap. Sabine kept waking me and insisting on being ACTIVELY petted until sometime after 2:30, so I could use that nap. She'd walk across my head to show her displeasure in my lying on my right side. Then, when I turned over and tried to get her to settle so I could put my arm around her, she bashed my forehead with hers, tickle my face with her whiskers, quickly lick my eyelids and purr loudly in my ear.

So...was/is it a "blizzard"? ...or a "nor'easter"? They're entirely different types of storms.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: bobad
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:38 AM

Jeri, we here in Ontario and Quebec got hit by another system, an Alberta Clipper, that was coming in from the west as the nor'easter was moving up the coast. We got a whack of snow and wind but nothing major. Toronto and south western Ontario got it worse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:39 AM

There was also a blizzard warning for all of the east coast of Canada.

Here is the weather alert:Govt weather service


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:48 AM

We got what happened when the two systems combined.

According to NOAA:

Blizzard Warning
Issued for winter storms with sustained or frequent winds of 35 mph or higher with considerable falling and/or blowing snow that frequently reduces visibility to 1/4 of a mile or less. These conditions are expected to prevail for a minimum of 3 hours.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:51 AM

Thanks, Ed T.
I think I could have looked it up on Weather Underground or somewhere, but I was mostly focused on here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:57 AM

And thanks Bobad. I hope you're warm and comfy!

I hope Buffalo is still there. Must go look for photos on line... AFTER I go shovel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 11:18 AM

Four or five feet of snow on the back porch. I was able to shovel the front door free in case we have to get out. The cats are not happy with the wind - nor am I. But it is fun to watch Ralph and Carol blowing their driveway. Mine is strange. The car is absolutely clean. The driveway around it is buried.
Parts of the yard are completely clear with green showing through. Parts have five foot drifts.
When I was shovelling the front I thought I found a piece of my roof but it was a slice of bread - ????? The bird who nests in the holly bush then started screaming at me - poor thing. I tossed the bread under the bush where she can get it. Tomorrow when the winds die down I will leave her some blueberries. She or her heirs come back every year and nest in the holly. And every year I am greeted by screeching as I leave for work. Great entertainement for the cats. They can't possibly reach her through the branches but can sit in the living room window and glare menacingly. Seems to satisfy all parties involved.
Can't help but think of all the homeless people in Portland. Preble Street is trying to find volunteers to help serve meals but there is no way of getting there.
Donner Party just went by. Didn't invite them in. They looked hungry.


SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 11:48 AM

Pretty good news from all youse guys so far!

I guess the 3ft snows were in a pretty limited area in central Conn

"More than 38 inches of snow fell in Milford in central Connecticut, and an 82-mph wind gust was recorded in nearby Westport. Areas of southeastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Hampshire notched at least 2 feet ..."

Boston got a good pounding, and the strange winds left odd drifts all over.

"Nearly 22 inches of snow fell in Boston and up to 3 feet was expected, the National Weather Service said, threatening the city's 2003 record of 27.6 inches. "


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 12:08 PM

I went out and cleaned off the porch, dug half-way around the car and to the bird feeder, because I had a screw loose. Really. I came back in and found one storm window I'd just put all the way up yesterday (just open a sliver at the top) was backwards. A couple of snowball's worth had hit the upper pane and slid down inside the lower.

The snow on the yard & porch side of my car was only knee high. The other side was crotch high, and the edge of the driveway where the plow piles up crap from the road is higher. I will wait for a neighbor to plow it. One of them doesn't seem to be home at the moment. The other one isn't either, but I think his day job involves town vehicles.

I don't need to go anywhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 12:30 PM

My earlier projection of snowfall was askew. Around my house and from what I could see from inside there seemed to be only 2 inches. But, as my luck had it, the wind had moved the overnight falling snow elsewhere. On going outside and driving around, it seems more like 6 inches or so of snow fell last night.

It just reinforces the inaccuracy estimating a situation by looking at one specific area from afar. ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 12:33 PM

In Canada, Enviroment Canada has a service (internet and phone-in)service providing weather. There is also a TV weather channel, which is also on the internet. I find the government one much more accurate, locally, than the private service.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 12:39 PM

When ya have enough snow that ya can't find a damned thing, well, then you've had snow. You Canucks figure we need a Canadian thread on this or is it worth it to y'all?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 01:19 PM

Reports on the boobtube were that Portland has gotten 30 inches which is some sort of record......not sure what though.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 01:50 PM

Last I heard (saw -- at WMUR's website), Nottingham got 18 inches. One side of my deck is cleaner than it is in warm weather. Prolly a foot or so on most of the deck and then the steps (other side) are mostly clean. I need another nap and I don't have to go anywhere, so I won't clear the deck off until tomorrow. My plow guy will probably be back for another swipe now that it's stopped and to clean up the driveway a bit. Maybe he'll shovel in front of the door.

Tomorrow I can figure out where he put my car, if he didn't put it back at the head of the driveway, and bring it back down to the house. (If it's not there, it's just up the hill at a cleared entrance to my up-the-hill neighbor's field.)

A friend just sent me this and I laughed myself silly --

Bread & Milk

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 02:03 PM

Oh, gotta pass this on. It's a year or so out of date, as our governor is now Maggie Hassan. John Lynch was an exceptionally good gov but Maggie is awesome. She was smart enough yesterday to NOT ban driving in New Hampshire -- she said (or words to the effect), "People in New Hampshire are smart enough to stay off the roads unless it's necessary and they'll drive accordingly."

Plow Guy Boogaloo

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: number 6
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 02:34 PM

"When ya have enough snow that ya can't find a damned thing, well, then you've had snow."

lost a glove in the blizzard this morning whilst adding gas to the snowthrower ... it blew away in the wind and snow in a southerly direction ... never to be found again I suppose.

But then again, if any of you Mainers do find a grey wool glove with a Lowepro logo on it, it's mine.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: EBarnacle
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 04:28 PM

Many yeahs ago, I was with some friends outsidah Augustie. The lady of the house had a propensity for losing things. For a special suprise, I bought her a hoss bangle for Thanksgiving and attached it to her keys. It snowed the day after and we could not find the keys. When the snow melted in the Spring, they were sitting on the porch railin', right where she put 'em.

Lady Hillary and I invested in a catering burner and a pack of butane cartridges for a grand total of about $30. We have had the Coleman type and find they are less stable than the flat burners.

By the way, we had about 8" down here in Basking Ridge, NJ. No big deal. We dug out and enjoyed the nearly empty roads on our way to Barnes y Noble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 04:57 PM

We definitely had a blizzard here, and like others who have posted we had the merging of the two storms. I did not lose power, though I've heard homes just a few blocks north of mine did. (My son's family did, too. They live on Aquidneck Island in the middle of Narragansett Bay. Most homes on the island--which has three communities, Newport, Middletown where my son lives, and Portsmouth--lost power.) If any of you have seen Charley Noble's pics on Facebook, the snow in my neighborhood looks a lot like it does in his photos. My shoveling started at the doorstep where about a foot of snow had been blown onto the sill. (One of my friends couldn't get outside because she couldn't push either of her storm doors open against the snow. For once I was glad I don't have storm doors!) I continued to shovel alongside the driver's side of my car. A neighbor told me he would take care of it, but my car had been plowed in after I'd gone to bed last night and I couldn't let him do all of it! Then two young men (who I think work for the plowing company our condo management hired) came and said they'd take care of it and told me to go inside, so I did. About an hour later my neighbor knocked on my door. The shoveling out was done, and he'd cleared my car windows and windshield and suggested I move the car so the plow could do more. My unit is in a corner, and a lot of snow gets pushed into that corner, which can't be happen unless I move my car out of the way. I drove to a little shopping plaza in front of the condos where my neighbor and several others had already parked their cars. I cleaned the rest of the snow off my car and then cleaned a lot of it off my neighbor's car, too. I couldn't get it all because some was jammed under his roof rack. I would have had to push it out with my fingers and even with thick insulated waterproof gloves they were getting cold. When I sat in my car and took off my gloves, my fingers were bright red! There is a nice restaurant nearby, the Cowesett Inn, and within the next few days I'll pick up a gift certificate there for my neighbor and his family. He's refused pay in the past. Oh, and the post office cancelled mail delivery today, so we can no longer say "Neither rain, nor snow, nor sleet, nor hail shall keep the postmen from their appointed rounds." But I'm glad they cancelled. People need to dig out their mailboxes. And my mailman happens to be one of my former students, so I want him to be safe and warm! Now I'll wait to see if we get a special assessment fee from condo management which will happen if we've gone over budget for snow removal. At least we didn't need backhoes and payloaders!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 05:49 PM

Oh well, people have time on their hands during bad weather. It was bound to happen:Thefuckingweather.com

Unconventional weather site


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Joe_F
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 06:07 PM

Malden, MA here. It was powder, deposited well below freezing, so it drifted quite a bit. About 2 ft in front of my house. My street (a thorofare) has been kept open. I have not lost any of my utilities. I tried out my old snowshoes, but they were too small to do any good. Public transit is shut down today, but may be back again tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 06:13 PM

BG... I KINDA HATE RAP BUT I RELLY ENJOYED THAT VID. tHANKS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 06:40 PM

I will never get used to the new keyboard. I gotta hook up the old one. At least all the typos won't be in caps TOO often.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 08:43 PM

Almost 9PM and the plowmen are digging me out front and back. I gave them a pair of Russell Stover hearts filled with chocolates. They were awfully pleased. So am I . We can get out of both the front and back doors. Whoo whoo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:08 PM

Well at least some dumb-arse weatherman in the USA isn't blaming it on a system comming fron Canada! :-}


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 09:43 PM

Well, the damn thing did what these storms often do here. Comes from the west and/or south and sometimes the east as well and upon arriving here... STALLS and just rotates until it blows itself out.

All around us... nada. On top of us... snow and wind, lessening by the hour but not leaving. The power is on. I rescued my new laptop from certain death after an ISP hiccup. I cooked a huge boiled ham dinner with spuds and carrots and cabbage and fresh green beans from Florida (FRESH GREEN BEANS! GOD BLESS AMERICA!... they are DEEEElicious!). I did three loads of laundry. I vacuumed and mopped and.... shovelled fuckin snow seven times since 5AM.

And I chatted with friends from far and wide.

A great day, really. Thanks to being able to chat with all you wonderful folks. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 10:06 PM

Like I said a while back... almost a medium Nor'easter today. A real one looks like http://www.flickr.com/photos/15565423@N05/5097469813/in/photostream or this.

I remember those vividly. And I remember worse (5' 2" one time) before I had a good camera. So, today is a good day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 13 - 10:09 PM

Oops!..... THIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 06:59 AM

Posted this on the other thread...

We only got about 40cm (16") with winds 60 gusting to 90kph (although I know we had gusts higher - when my hip roof creeks I do not use my back door) so it wasn't bad. Still snowin. Often, these Noreasters come up the coast, up the Bay of Fundy and stall when they become "trapped" between the Appalachians and the cold air of the North Atlantic. I have seen large ones stall and take over three days to blow out. Snow drifts almost up to the eaves really sucks but these are only about 1.5m high.

Rain Tuesday... now, THAT sucks!
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Soooooo, how's by youse guys?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bettynh
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 01:33 PM

Two feet of snow blowing around here was pretty managable. It was easier to clean off empty streets, though. It seems folks in New York didn't pay attention and clogged the Long Island Expressway with folks trying to make it home from work.

Meanwhile, we're almost 2 months past the solstice and buds are beginning to swell. Time to drill those maples!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 08:26 PM

From what I heard on today's news, in the US the state hit worst may have been Connecticut. Late this afternoon I carried my trash to one of three dumpsters on the condo property. The one nearest my unit had not been dug out, but the other two had, so I used one of those. Then I drove to the Cowesett Inn, ate dinner, and bought the gift certificate for the family of the man who did most of the work digging out my car.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 10:00 PM

Cool move, CL. Good on ya.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ranger1
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 10:51 PM

That was nowhere near the worst storm I've seen. Yes, it was bad, but I'm a New England girl and a park ranger and I know how to prepare for these things. Wednesday, I went grocery shopping, but I needed to anyway. Made sure I had fixings for beef stew and Friday afternoon I started it. Let it simmer on the stove for a few hours and then put it away for Saturday. Saturday, the stew was absolutely divine. It was actually fun being snowbound for a day or two, great excuse to stay in my PJs and read, watch movies, and play video games. The shoveling this AM was not nearly as much fun, however.

Oh, and Portland's record wasn't for 31.9 inches, it was for the amount of snow that fell within those 24 hour periods for those specific dates - 17" on Friday and 14.9 on Saturday. I'm a weather junkie after having to work outside for four winters, and I have NOAA's automated weather info on speed dial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 01:12 PM

We got about 30" at my place. The niece and I managed to shovel our way from the front door to the driveway (taking several shifts to do so). The landlord completely plowed the driveway finally at 9pm LAST NIGHT but we didn't need to be anywhere anyway. I won't be using the back door until spring. I'm pretty sure if I stepped off the back porch the snow would be about chest deep on me (and I'm 5'6")
The problem now is there is no place for the dog to "go". Not my dog so I'm not going to shovel out a poop patch, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 09:33 PM

If it's a small dog, just hold it over the snow and squeeze it.

Youse getting rain? We got rain forecast fer the morrow. DRAT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Feb 13 - 08:28 AM

Gnu, dear...she's 75lbs. She can dig out her own poop patch. :-)

We did get rain - got up to about 40° yesterday. Now this morning with the overnight refreeze my driveway is a skating rink. Looked like a 90-year-old women trying to get to my car this morning. Must buy rock salt on the way home.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Feb 13 - 08:43 AM

Becca - Diamond did manage to flatten down a poop patch here yesterday = at 75lbs that's not surprising!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 12 Feb 13 - 06:22 PM

For me, yesterday and today were a usual Monday and Tuesday. I went to classes at the Y. However, some school systems were still cancelled today, and one grandfather had his 9-year-old granddaughter join us for an exercise class designed for seniors. Other school systems which were cancelled yesterday reopened today with one-or-two hour delays. Conditions are especially bad in densely populated cities with side roads not being plowed. Providence did have school today, but one bus got stuck in the snow making the road impassible for all residents! Some communities told students they would have to walk to bus stops on main streets. And some communities have given homeowners a deadline of when their sidewalks have to be shoveled or fines will be imposed. Heart attack, anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 12 Feb 13 - 07:17 PM

Our sidewalks are on city property. Even if a bylaw said it was my responsibility to keep it clear it couldn't be imposed. It ain't mine. I have no responsibility for it's upkeep as it doesn't belong to me. British Common Law. YMMV


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: kendall
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 07:17 AM

When I was a boy we had a snow storm that marooned us for almost two weeks. It was up almost to the telephone wires. The huge Mack truck and plow was unable to move it.

My Uncle Curt said his neighbor was out next morning poking around with a pole trying to locate his chimney.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:29 AM

The city of Portland, Maine has an ordinance that property owners are required to clear the sidewalks in front of their property within 24 hours after the storm has stopped. If you don't they issue a warning; if the warning is ignored they clear it themselves and issue a fine.
Luckily I live in South Portland and I rent. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 09:24 AM

There are no bylaws here in Saint John for property owners to clear the (city owned) sidewalks in front of their property. I'm amazed how many people will not make the effort to clean the snow off their front sidewalks, but they make damned sure their driveways are cleared. As the city takes up to 36 hours before they get around to plowing the sidewalks I take it upon myself to clear the sidewalk (remove snow and salt) on my block. Sure, it's not my property but after seeing the elderly and mothers pushing stollers on the street, with cars whizzing by I felt I had to do it.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 12:17 PM

Interesting aspect about clearing private drives in the UK. If anyone slips and injures themselves, the person who cleared the snow is liable. Many householders therefore won't do it for fear of the postman slipping...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 08:27 PM

Becca... they fine 86 year old almost blind little old ladies like my mother who's on a fixed income? That is sickening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 13 - 11:10 PM

Neighbours who do not help in clearing the snow from the walkway, driveway and front sidewalk of an 86 year old lady living on a fixed income is sickening.

biLL ... ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Becca72
Date: 14 Feb 13 - 09:32 AM

Agreed, Bill.
The ordinance applies to all property owners.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 04:33 PM

News reports say IT'S COMING BACK AGAIN.

Forecasts in my area, beginning a week ago, predicted a "possible 5 to 7 inches" of snow. We got 12.2", the second largest snowfall ever recorded, only about 3 tenths of an inch short of the local record set >50 years ago.

By standards elsewhere, that's hardly even enough to notice, but here 8" is considered a "big one" and although crews are working hard they're not really equipped for much more.

More than 200 miles of I70 (a major interstate) have been closed in western Kansas for a couple of days, with many other roads shut down. (A "conservative" attitude toward closing roads here has to consider that just getting stuck in the snow may leave people stranded 50 miles from the nearest farmhouse in some places.) Some of the storm that's moving on eastward is reportedly dropping about as much ICE as snow, although predictions are for (resumed and) continuing snow toward the northeast.

Stay Snug.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 04:50 PM

Yes, JiK. 8" of snow for you is like at least 3 to 4 times that for us because we maintain the equipment, staff and plans to deal with it. And, youse are far more susceptible to "ice" because it would be more likely in a storm and because your power infrastructure is older.

It's all relative.

sIx... some little old ladies have neighbours who are little old ladies. Surely the jurisdictional authority could sort out the facts and not fine such people? Maybe they could help out in such cases? I heard there was shortage of jobs for young able bodied sorts, no? I still say they are heartless bastards!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 04:52 PM

In Alaska, as in most of the US, it is the homeowner's responsibility to clear the sidewalk/UK pavement of snow or debris. However, there can be extenuating circumstances.

In Juneau, in southeast Alaska, city road crews pile snow from the streets onto their shoulders- the sidewalks. Berms can end up as tall as four or five feet. We learn early in the wintertime to walk in the streets- it is much safer.

After streets are secured, road crews come back - frequently during the night - and grind down the berms and haul off the snow and ice to wherever they take it.

Works fairly well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

I was living in Wichita for the record snow in 1962, but I remember a couple of other times when it wasn't as deep, but blew & drifted in nasty ways (about 1970 or 71).
Because Wichita doesn't get lots of deep snow, and often not too cold, they don't have huge budgets for it, or major equipment. It is often a nasty mess. Luckily, it is 'mostly' flat. But out at Wichita State Univ., there are a couple of hills that always snag the unwary.
The only time I was ever late to work was when I couldn't get UP a hill to get away from my house. Finally had to go down and around and get a running start on a major street.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:51 PM

JiK, news reports tonight indicate that things were indeed tough in states around you. It sounds like in RI there will be mostly rain on Saturday with some snow starting Sunday afternoon. I hope that's right, because there's a folk music concert I want to get to on Saturday night!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 03:49 AM

A more recent report for this weekend:

Storm expected to give New England third straight weekend of snow

The report doesn't give much detailed information, but as expected it does mentioned some places running out of money in their budgets for snow removal and other weather related responses. I'm not sure Kansas even had a budget for it.

The places where rain or mixed rain/snow is expected may face the worst traffic hazards due to the treacherous nature of icing, especially when it's on top of snow.

We don't have to worry much about clearing our sidewalks, because there aren't any in our neighborhood. We haven't been out to see whether the kids who like to play basketball in the street a couple of blocks south have cleared their "court." When the foot of snow that's blocking the front door from coming open melts (or blows away) we'll get out to the mailbox, but we haven't seen the mail truck so we're pretty sure there's nothing there.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 12:23 PM

Most ot the "second pass" front appears to have passed through here, although the best information I've found indicates we might get a little additional snow later today.

Snow around our house is about the same as in the first round - so far, but I haven't been able to find any "official" reports that are very useful. Much of the first round snow melted in the one day of sunshine we had between, and it looks like sort of a rerun now.

Headlines say "it snowed in Kansas" but that's not very helpful when the state is 400 miles E/W and 200 N/S. Reports that "lots of highways are closed" are similarly (un)specific. The "blizzard level" winds were similarly vague, but didn't happen here. Several reports said winds of 45 mph to 75 mph, but didn't say WHERE.

Several reports said "30,000 without power" but it took a 30 minute search to find out that most of those were in the Kansas City (KS and Missouri) areas. Five TV channels (of the ones I get with a little antenna) were off the air for about an hour last night, but they wouldn't have had anything but "paid programming" anyway.

The city here is saying traffic problems will be "the worst we've had" tomorrow morning, but I'm beginning to be a disbeliever. Maybe they're just talking about the fact that they've run out of salt and will actually have to plow most of it(?).

Reports I've been able to find for other parts of the country are similarly vague, but it does appear that flooding may be more of a problem east/southeast of here than snow/ice.

Expectations for severe weather in the northeast (New England etc) appear to have been scaled back significantly, but the prognosticators don't seem to have any really believable predictions for anywhere in the US. They're so confused about this one that now they're talking (vacuously) about the "next one that's on the way." So far all I've heard is that the next one "is colder." (???)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 04:37 PM

Latest guesstimate is that there's nothing left of the latest storm in Kansas except a few scattered flurries that won't amount to much.

The official tally for Wichita is 6.8 inches yesterday, which brings the total for the past week to 21 inches, breaking the 100 year old record for snow in a single month here. (Note that we got more snow in ONE WEEK than has ever been recorded before for an entire MONTH, but that doesn't really mean it amounted to all that much, since the first half melted before the second half of it fell.)

Traffic officials have discovered a "new explanation" for their prediction that traffic problems may be worse tomorrow (Tuesday) morning with their observation that the new LED traffic lights they've been installing busily don't get warm enough to melt the snow off the lenses like the old bulbs did.

Ain't progress wunnerful?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:16 PM

I heard on the national news that your part of the country got socked again. Sorry to hear it. While there may be significant snow in northern and western New England, in my part of RI we expect mostly rain this time. As small as RI is, the rain/snow dividing line can cut across it. Northwestern RI may get much more snow than most of the state. When I lived in western RI, I would take forecasts for Worcester, MA, more seriously than the forecasts for Providence, And RI stations have never cared much about road conditions in western and southern RI, just the more "metropolitan" areas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:50 PM

I dunno about youse down below but up here "significant" has come to mean 10cm (even 5 to 10cm). "Significant" startles a lot of people older than me because they don't understand the term as it is used on the evening news. It's used to make them stay tuned for the next hour so they view all the TV adverts. 10cm is a "skiff" to me. If it accompanied by high wind, I may have to shovel near the doors... maybe not. If there is no significant wind forecast, I just get pissed off at the weather terrorists for trying to scare the elderly for ratings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,KP
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:59 AM

Just back from my first visit to Canada, ski-ing at Mount Tremblant in the Laurentians. I must say the climate was quite an eye-opener for us Brits, even the Scottish party! We didn't get heavy snow-falls (there was plenty there already) but temperatures of -20C are pretty bracing! Apparently in January it had dropped to -35C, which with the wind chill was close to -60C! I asked one of the resort workers what he wore on days like that and he said 'seriously, everything I own'. Later in the week we heard the forecast for somewhere down on the St Lawrence - 40 cms of overnight snow, 30 the next day, and 70 kilometre winds. That sounds like a good time to stay inside.

Meanwhile back here in Edinburgh the sun is shining, and Stornoway in the Hebrides has reached +12C!

good luck to any of you suffering from really bad weather -KP


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:10 PM

Hi, KP. That was us you heard about with the 30cm and 40cm snows and 70km/hr winds. Truth is we are used to it, and where -20 might seem cold, it's just past chilly when you've lived here for a while. Of course, we wear something over our t-shirts when it gets nipply out.

Glad you had a good time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:15 PM

♫ "..at 100° below zero he buttoned up his vest."♫


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:39 PM

It's -4 in Fahrenheit.
We're getting some wet snow, after rain. I shoveled a lot of water earlier and tried to dig a channel, but my driveway is a pond. I just bought a 50 lb bag of enviro-melt stuff (because it's not going to stay wet) and parked on high ground. (And bought yogurt and cookies. I still have stew. TMI? Who cares?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:49 PM

Yeeees, 9.... we have a saying around here... buddy, at least if it's that cold, we won't get no snow ta speak of.

Optimism can really mess you over sometimes, eh? >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big snow forecast for New England-Fri
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 05:40 PM

Tell ya, I'd give someone's left nut if we could get a reliable weather forecast here. Once again the weather channels on the i'net have predicted 2-4 cm. It's already over 8 cm and it don't show signs of stopping anytime soon. I'm wondering how the pair of snow geese are doing. They stayed over this winter--I expect one of them was a bit injured and they are fiercely loyal to each other.


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