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BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?

Songwronger 19 Nov 12 - 10:17 PM
GUEST,999 19 Nov 12 - 10:48 PM
Henry Krinkle 19 Nov 12 - 10:55 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 19 Nov 12 - 10:57 PM
Henry Krinkle 19 Nov 12 - 11:03 PM
EBarnacle 19 Nov 12 - 11:21 PM
Songwronger 19 Nov 12 - 11:46 PM
Henry Krinkle 20 Nov 12 - 12:19 AM
GUEST,999 20 Nov 12 - 09:29 AM
Elmore 20 Nov 12 - 09:52 AM
Bobert 20 Nov 12 - 10:11 AM
Little Hawk 20 Nov 12 - 10:59 AM
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Subject: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 10:17 PM

You can go to whitehouse.gov and start a petition for anything. Once your petition has garnered 25,000 signatures, it will be responded to by the white house.

As you may know, there are now secession petitions for all 50 U.S. states at the site. You can go there, find the one of your state and sign in favor of secession.

Or, you can sign this one. It's long title is, "Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America". It's short title is, "Get the Fuck out if You Don't Like it Here."

I mean, who do these secessionists think they are? President Obama has gone out of his way to make this society a cohesive one. He never invokes the name of Lincoln and all that Civil War, racial stuff. Never. He's above all that. Yet here are these ingrates who don't appreciate how hard it is to turn a nation into a smooth-running National Socialist machine. So fuck 'em. Ship them out. The petition's just shy of the 25k needed for a white house response, so push it over the top.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 10:48 PM

Just out of curiosity, deported to where?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 10:55 PM

Canada wants us.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 10:57 PM

I believe the question of secession was settled 150 years ago +/-. You're in; you're not getting out. Let them have their little game...it will keep them doing anything that could really harm the country.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 11:03 PM

Time for change we can believe in.
=(:-( ))


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 11:21 PM

My neice signed a petition to have Austin secede from Texas if Texas secedes from the union. She's on the right track. There are crazies everywhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 11:46 PM

Well, Obama now claims the National Defense Authorization Act gives him the authority to kill anyone on earth, so I think he should just kill the Secessionists. It's what Lincoln did, and the media has built Obama up as the New Lincoln. So just drone bomb them. Get their addresses off the petitions and stimulate the economy by building tens of thousands of drones to take the bastards out. Maybe I should start a petition for that--"We the Peons Humbly Beseech Der Obama to Bomb Amerika's Secessionists."


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 12:19 AM

Kill!Kill!Kill!!
=(:-( D)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 09:29 AM

When you figure that near half to popular vote went to Romney, is it any wonder the US has a share of the world's idiots? They love to win and rub victory in the faces of the poor, but when they get beaten they do tend to whine lots, and that's what I think the secessionist petitions are all about. Playground stuff: it was a fair ball and if you don't like it I'm taking my bat and glove and going home, so THERE!


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 09:52 AM

How about letting the 10 states which receive the most federal aid secede? That might help decrease the national debt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 10:11 AM

I think we should just let a couple states secede and then let these WCs (washrag crybabies) self-deport themselves there... I'd give 'um Alabama for the warm loving WCs and maybe North Dakota for the ones who like it nippy...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 10:59 AM

Ah, well...the old 2-party "divide and conquer" method has so bitterly divided the USA by now that it's not surprising some people talk about seceding when their party loses the great electoral game. I've heard people on the Democratic side of the equation talk about moving to Canada if Romney had won...someone spoke about Maine joining Canada if Romney won. What's the difference, really? The one that loses see it as an overwhelming disaster, an utter betrayal of all that the country stands for, 4 years of stark insanity ahead...etc. That IS the nature of the political divide in the USA...both sides see the other as out of touch with reality.

I'll tell you what Americans could do that would give the rest of the world some relief for a bit...have ALL the people who voted for Obama move to the "blue" states from the last election and ALL the people who voted for Romney move to the "red" states from the last election...simply deport them to the nearest state that matches their political choice. As for those who didn't vote...well, they're suspicious subversives...so intern them in concentration camps. Then separate into two hostile nations, erect fortified borders between the Big Red and Big Blue, and then have another Civil War.

This would greatly relieve the pressure on various small nations around the world that the USA has been invading and occupying and otherwise fucking around in for decades now, because the American troops would all have to come home and fight each other for a change. They could bomb American infrastructure, invade American cities, sack American towns....and think what a relief this would be for Afghans, Yemenis, Iraqis, Central Americans....basically just about everybody...specially those who have large amounts of oil.

The new American Civil War would probably last for at least a few years. Fox News would become the official organ of Big Red, CNN and a couple of others could handle the propaganda for Big Blue, Obama could be the new Lincoln, maybe have Romney or Gingrich as the new Jefferson Davis...and you'd all get to take out your frustrations on the "bad" people in your ex-country....that is, the ones you don't agree with.

Some of you would have to move, of course. But you could look forward to the Final Victory when the "bad guys" finally get their comeuppance and PAY for their evil ways! And then Reconstruction could begin. Jobs for everyone!


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:07 AM

Hey, ShitWringer: Blow me. One more time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:14 AM

Face it, Greg....he's just not interested. What you could do, though, is try a certain establishment in Soho. They'll blow anyone, I've heard...and for a modest price. Only a few quid. Talk to "Betty"...or "Quentin"...whichever suits your fancy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:19 AM

The "new civil war" has lasted 150 years and still going strong...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:22 AM

LOL!!!
=(:-( D)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:30 AM

Yeah, Bobert, it has indeed. Seems to me like it's been getting steadily worse for some time now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:34 AM

Yes, LH, it has... It is more like a low grade revolution being waged by the rich using ignorant people as their pawns than a civil war...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 11:54 AM

Yep. I think it was Boss Tweed in Tammany Hall who said, "You can always get one half of the poor to kill the other half for you..."

I'd say that the original Civil War too was basically started by 2 sets of wealthy elites who couldn't agree with each other about social and economic policy, and they got the ordinary people to go out and kill each other over it. You had the rich industrialists in the Northeast versus the rich cotton plantation aristocracy in the South...and the prize was who would run the country to their own best financial benefit. The Southerners eventually lost the battle for the controlling numbers in Washington DC, so they got mad and seceded.

The South naturally lost. The North had most of the military industry, most of the heavy industry, almost the entire Navy, and a considerably larger population to recruit from. That made a southern defeat inevitable in a long war....providing the North was willing to fight on to final victory, despite terrible losses. The South could only have won if they'd scored a shockingly dramatic victory very early...and had occupied Washington. They could probably have done that right after the First Battle of Bull Run...if they'd been bold enough to...but it doesn't seem to have even occurred to the southern commanders at the time.

If they had won such a victory, though, I think it would only have been a temporary victory. Another war would have been virtually inevitable, within a few years...and the North would have probably won anyway in the long run.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 12:10 PM

How about "self-deportation"? They can strap their dogs to the top of their cars and move to Romneyland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 12:33 PM

1st Manassas was purdy shocking, LH... All the DC socialites dressed up and packed picnic baskets to watch and ended up in a hasty retreat when the Southerners kicked some serious butt on the Union boys who ended up running literally for their lives along with the DC socialites...

Had Gen. Johnston and then Col. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson continued the battle by trying to run down the Union boys it is conceivable that the South could have won the war that day by pushing into the Capitol and taking it... They had the troops to do it and they knew the terrain well...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 12:39 PM

He wasn't called "Stonewall" until after that battle, fyi.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 12:56 PM

Damn yankees!
=(:-( 0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: pdq
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 01:01 PM

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half" credited to Jay Gould, 1986

But if you change it back to "I can convince one half of the working class to kill the other half" it is pure Karl Marx, circa 1844.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 01:03 PM

Thomas J. Jackson was also a fundagelical "Christian"[sic] lunatic whose visions made William Blake look like a piker and Oliver Cromwell look like an atheist.

Yet another nutter re-made into some sort of Lost Cause "hero".


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Songwronger
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:14 PM

Dear Moderator:

Greg F' persistent requests for a blowjob are beginning to worry me. I'm not sure what to do with a case of gay stalking except to bring it to your attention. Could you please give him his damn blowjob so he'll stop his homosexual fantisization?

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:19 PM

Yo, ShitWringer: Get a life, will ya? Or at least get the frick outa here and take your garbage with ya??
Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Ed T
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:30 PM

""Canada wants us""


No we don't.
I suggest they be deported to Louisana. It worked in 1755 for the British (with their then loyal New Englanders) who kicked the Acadians out of "the great white north" to spicy and swampy Cajunland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:36 PM

Not Louisiana. We'd need passports to visit the Big Easy. I say let them have Odessa, TX.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 06:50 PM

Greg needs to behave himself. Mr. Grabby Hands. Naughty boy.
=(:-( o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 07:48 PM

I think it's high time we seceded from the United States over here in Europe...


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 07:55 PM

I agree. I'm tired. Being responsible for your lazy ass. Have a boo boo? Uncle Sam will kiss it and make it all better.
=(:-( x)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 09:45 PM

Secessionists are really quite remarkable people. It's not everyone who can bend over far enough to blow smoke up their own asses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 09:48 PM

It called the perpetual motion machine, beeze... Needs no new fuel... The old fuel gets recycled and recycled...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Songwronger
Date: 20 Nov 12 - 10:03 PM

Mr. F -- I read somewhere that homosexuals give their boyfriends pet names with anal connotations. I guess I should be flattered that you call me ShitWringer, but really, I'm not interested in your amorous advances. Perhaps you should go have sex with yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 12:01 AM

Bee-Dub, Nadia Comenici could (bend over far enough to blow smoke up her own ass), but she was smart enough not to smoke in the first place! ;-)

****

Greg seems to have an obsession about soliciting blowjobs from other Mudcatters, Songwronger. It's really quite odd. I think Spaw got him started on that. I've told him he can get that sort of satisfaction in Soho for just a small fee. Only a few quid...and much more practical than propositioning uninterested people who are 4000 to 6000 miles west of where he lives...and who wouldn't touch his lonely little willie with a 10 foot pole!

He also says "yo" to people all the time now when addressing them by name. Very odd! I thought that only Sylvester Stallone and a few dumb inner city American street gangs and moronic rappers (both black and white) used that expression.

Again, Spaw is probably the one to blame for influencing poor Greg in this manner. Shocking! I hate to think of a respectable citizen of the British Isles descending into what is equivalent to a cultural black hole of Hip-Hop inspired L.A. depravity. What could it mean for the future of good British institutions such as Eaton, Cambridge, Westminster, and Harrow?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 05:18 AM

[quote]
"Get the Fuck out if You Don't Like it Here."
[/quote]
What about the people who where there first? Maybe you should get the fuck out of their land.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 07:32 AM

Maybe they have taken the Malcolm X chronicles too seriously?
I am not even sure Malcolm believed himself near the end?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 10:55 AM

""I've heard people on the Democratic side of the equation talk about moving to Canada if Romney had won...""

If Romney had won, the moon wouldn't be far enough. And not just for Americans.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 10:58 AM

Greg, there's no point in your requests toShitwringer.

He is the kind that rolls his own.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 11:16 AM

When ya start arguin' over who was in livin' some place first the argument can go on forever, and it don't prove nothin'. People been migratin' all over this world since before the dawn of history. The point is, who is livin' there now. Anyone who is born on a piece of land belongs there...plain and simple. It don't belong to some bunch of dead people from thousands of years ago...it belongs to everyone who is born there NOW or is normally livin' there NOW, regardless of which cultural group, ethnic group, religious group or species they belong to...and they all oughta be willin' to respect each other, get along together, and share the land they are livin' on in equality and in peace.

The people who don't got normal rights there are people who come in with force of military violence and invade the place...NOW...not several hundred or several thousand years ago.

Main point: you can't use dead people outta the past to claim a piece of land now and you shouldn't punish present day people for the sins of people that are long dead.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 12:20 PM

Enough with the ad hominem bullshit. How about discussing the subject?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 12:26 PM

True. Now, who's going to have a dalliance with Greg?
=(:-( D)


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 01:06 PM

More importantly, who's going to have a dalliance with intelligence & intelligent life?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: ollaimh
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 01:14 PM

no kringle, canada does not want racists like you


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Secessionists be Deported?
From: ollaimh
Date: 21 Nov 12 - 01:25 PM

in fact it would be nice of the unites states would judst get out of north america, and maybe we cold have a democracy.

hoiwever to call obama anational socialist is again extremism bordering on and likely active racism. there is no similarity between obama and national socalism. he's not even a liberal--i wish he was. he's an eisenhower republican as was clinton. however ignorance is so wide spread in the united hates that rational discussion is almost impossible.

hey ed don't joke about the ethnic cleansing of the acadiens. i am one by the way, a direct descendant of charles laverdure who founded the melanscon settlement. this was genocidal ethnic cleansing of a people who were the only white immigrants to actually live with and get along with the natives.le grand derangement was the seminal event in acadien consciousness, and acadien society is still shaped by the experience.

as to stone wall jackson, robert e lee and jefferson davis. they were all religious fanatics who supported the execution of black prisoners of war captured in uniform.   they were war criminals. untill the south admits these"heros" were war criminals they will not enter the civilized world


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