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BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012

gnu 07 Dec 12 - 09:33 PM
Charley Noble 09 Dec 12 - 12:25 PM
gnu 09 Dec 12 - 09:18 PM
Charley Noble 13 Jan 13 - 05:26 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 13 Jan 13 - 05:43 PM
Charley Noble 15 Jan 13 - 09:18 PM
Charley Noble 23 Feb 13 - 09:36 PM
ChanteyLass 24 Feb 13 - 01:45 PM
Charley Noble 24 Feb 13 - 05:18 PM
ChanteyLass 25 Feb 13 - 10:58 PM
Charley Noble 26 Feb 13 - 07:50 PM
Bobert 26 Feb 13 - 08:37 PM
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Charley Noble 19 Sep 13 - 05:22 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: gnu
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 09:33 PM

Well! THAT was eye opening to say the very least! No doubt in my mind that Cappy was at fault by ordering the ship within a distance that would preclude any "mistakes" but THAT is what happened. There would not have been any problems if his orders had been followed EXACTLY before the problem became apparent and ESPECIALLY when it became imminent (when the Cappy calls port and the helmsman turns starboard shit happens!) but that is why one has a safety margin that HE trimmed and it Still falls on him, IMO. As for him "jumping ship", it SEEMS that he did not do so on a lark, so to speak. As for him refusing orders from the Coast Guard to return to the ship, it SEEMS he could not do so.

I think all the SENSATIONAL charges by the media are false. I think the fact that he put the ship in a "vulnerable to mistakes" situation makes him guilty as hell no matter his excuses and he derserves everything he gets for doing that*. But I never thought I would say this... based on what I saw on TV just now... bravo, Cappy... ya done good in a terrible situation. Ya fucked up and yer responsible but you did a GREAT job saving lives after the fact. I understand that and applaud it, even tho that don't mean squat in the end and yer gonna hafta pay*, period... there it is.

*I also think the owners should be enjoined for their part in what appears (on the TV show and otherwise) to have been a contibuting factor to the tragedy.

PS... ya gotta watch the TV show, if ya can, ta know whay I am sayin. CBC, The Fifth Estate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 12:25 PM

gnu-

I had missed your post. Thanks for the reminder.

I'm willing to give the Captain some more rope, so to speak, until the hearing is completed. But I'm sure he will end up dangling from it.

Even cruise ship captains can be held responsible for the safe navigation of their ships.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 09:18 PM

That's what I said. But, ya gotta hear the story. He will swing but only on one charge. The rest (well, I can't say ALL at this point, obviously) appera false and sensationalized by the media. That TV show was riviting! Typical CBC... them guys are good journalists... among the best in the world. I saw the same over my lifetime on many issues. As a Canuck, I can't help but applaud, yet again, the CBC.

Charlie... have you tried to access the show on the internut?


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 05:26 PM

Today marks the first anniversary of the sinking of the Costa Concordia. Salvage operations are still on-going and way over budget, and now estimated removal date has been postponed until the fall: click here for update!

34 people lost their lives in this foolhardy mishap.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Jan 13 - 05:43 PM

Haven't heard anything lately about the inquiries. I guess the media have lost interest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 09:18 PM

Here's a hot link to the current hearings: click here for update!

When the inquiry is over, a trial may be scheduled on criminal charges.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 09:36 PM

I really have been neglecting this thread and the inquiry is still in process with many a twist and turn.

One intriguing update is a modest proposal for a monument on Giglio Island:

"The only thing to be left after the disaster is the boulder that wrecked the ship. The mayor of Giglio and Costa Cruises plan to position the boulder on the island as a memorial after it has been removed from the hull."

You can't make this stuff up!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 01:45 PM

No, you can't! But, then again, why not? Why not use that rock as the memorial, and why not make this stuff up? I guess it would be like putting up an eternal flame at a site where people had been killed in a fire. Probably poor taste.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 05:18 PM

Whatever rocks their boat!

I'm beginning to feel guilty about poking fun at this nautical disaster. But it's so hard to resist. I pledge to do better!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 10:58 PM

Go ahead. Poke fun! Just don't poke a hole in a ship.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 07:50 PM

I'm losing track how the inquiry is going on this disaster. I can't seem to find an update, other than options for luxury Carnival cruises.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 08:37 PM

I'm waiting for the re-floating... An engineering feat, indeed...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 13 - 06:12 PM

It appears that the engineers have succeeded in turning the ship upright. The ship was declared completely upright shortly after 04:00 local time (02:00 GMT) on Tuesday, 17 September 2013. It is resting on a bed prepared for it. Lots of work remains - tanks will be attached to the side that has been underwater all these months, to match the tanks already installed on the other side. Then the tanks will be filled with air in the spring of 2014, so the ship can float and be towed to a salvage yard for dismantling.
Here's the BBC story: The ship was declared completely upright shortly after 04:00 local time (02:00 GMT) on Tuesday.

-Joe-
(I saw this ship on its side in June, 2012)


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Sep 13 - 05:22 PM

Yes, the ship is upright in her cradle after 19 hours of hard work. The side that was underwater is badly dented in two areas where she was resting on the ledge.

There should be a special hell for irresponsible captains such as Schettino.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 20 Sep 13 - 05:49 AM

A brilliant feat of engineering to right her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 07:11 AM

News.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 04:58 PM

One hell of a lot of scrap metal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Costa Concordia Sinking-2012
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 05:34 PM

Since gnu's link will probably die, let me post excerpts from the BBC story, dated 23 July 2014:
    The wrecked Italian cruise ship, the Costa Concordia, is being towed to the port of Genoa for scrapping after a two-year salvage operation. Its removal is one of the biggest ever maritime salvage operations.

    The Concordia struck a reef off the Italian island of Giglio in January 2012 and capsized, killing 32 people. Captain Francesco Schettino has denied charges of multiple manslaughter and abandoning ship, which could see him jailed for up to 20 years.

    The Costa Concordia was re-floated nine days ago and is being kept above the surface by giant buoyancy chambers. More than a dozen vessels will help to tow the ship. The wreck was hauled upright in September last year but was still partially submerged, resting on six steel platforms. Sirens on nearby boats wailed and bells on Giglio tolled just before two tugboats pulled the vessel away. Italian civil protection service head Franco Gabrielli told the Reuters news agency that "victory" could only be declared when the ship was in sight of the port of Genoa. The cruise ship is being towed to Genoa at two knots, almost at walking pace, with an escort of more than a dozen tug boats. The journey, which is expected to take four days, began shortly before 09:00 local time (07:00 GMT) [23 July 2014].


I visited Giglio and saw the ship on June 17, 2012. It was quite a sight to see.


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