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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 09:44 PM

To the tune of "Sweet Betsy from Pike" (my memory has some strange contents)

♫ I'll tell you a story you'll never forget.
A story about you and your cigarette.
Enjoy smoother smoking, choose wisely, choose well..
Relax and enjoy yourself, light a Pall Mall.1

Pall Mall, Pall Mall...choose longer & finer & milder Pall Mall.♫

**cough, cough...ghaaaggg...**


1. It IS spelled Pall Mall.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,Mrr at work
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 09:06 PM

I'm gonna have to get myself a new pair of horns, my last ones broke...


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 08:14 PM

I am so ashamed....

B;~(


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: gnu
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 07:55 PM

YOUWHAT? YOUWHAT? THIRTY YEARS and you bought TOE BACCO? GET THEE BEHIND ME JESUS AND SMOTE THAT SUMPUP UP THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF?????

Bobert... ???

Get thee some God Greens and mellow out man.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 07:43 PM

Well, today I was ridin' by the Quik-Mart and thinkin, "WTF... Since you gonna be dead soon might as well go out in style..." so I pulled in and bought a pack of Pell Mell cigarettes and soon as I got home I went back in the woods and opened them up and went thru all that old smokers stuff like pounding the pack on the palm of my hand to get the tobacco all packed tight and then lit one up...

Holy shit... There's a reason why I quit smokin' these things 30 years ago... The stink and make you cough... I was going to take another "drag" but me lungs said "NO!!!"... Nasty shit...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 07:34 PM

LOL! ;-)

Myself, I can't really see what difference it makes whether it was a cross or a stake...but people do love to argue over technicalities, don't they? I mean, they've got to be RIGHT about it, don't they???? Wars have been fought over being RIGHT about things like that...and the winners always feel quite justified afterward in having made the bloody sacrifices. Just ask them. As for the losers, they grit their teeth and bide their time....waiting for their chance to "set the record straight".


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 04:40 PM

"Oh, I see your a Jehovah's Witness."

"How can you tell?"

"Because you're wearing a stake pendant instead of a cross."

"That's an air gauge."


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 04:27 PM

...they do not believe Jesus was crucified on a cross, they think he was executed on a single wooden torture stake....

I'm sure jewelers are glad the majority of Christians believe it was a cross. Stakes make lousy pendants.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 02:43 PM

Here's a lengthy article all about the origins, structure, and beliefs of the JWs.

Jehovah's Witnesses

They don't have any beliefs about the Rapture. They do have some other beliefs that are quite unusual in mainstream Christianity, such as...

- They do not believe in the Trinity
- They do not believe in the traditional Hell (their translation of the word Hell ("sheol") is simply..."the grave"...that is, a nonconscious state after death. You don't get punished...you simply die, your body goes into dissolution, and you cease to have any conscious existence at all from that point on...although there are provisions for some to be resurrected at some point into another physical life.
- they do not believe Jesus was crucified on a cross, they think he was executed on a single wooden torture stake (as opposed to the traditional cross). Why they believe that, I don't know. It probably has to do with how their elders have interpreted their translations of the Bible text in its earliest linguistic form.

And so on...quite a few distinct divergences from what people usually associate with Christianity. This, of course, makes them apostates in the view of most other Christian churches, and the other churces are apostates in their view. They ALL, however, use various translations of the Bible as their authority, but do not necessaril agree on which translation is the "best" one or how to interpret it.

There have been some similar schisms and diffrences of doctrine in the Muslim faith, and probably in most other major religions as well. It seems to be what usually happens as time goes by with any religion.

Anyway, the article makes for interesting reading if you want to know what makes the JWs tick, and how they differ from other Christians.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 02:01 PM

i thought the watchtower society had changed their minds on blood transfusions-or did i imagine it?
a brave U turn if so,though must have been hard on the obedient that allowed loved ones to die needlessly.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: frogprince
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 11:21 AM

It might be kinda interesting to know if the stream of cash from Camping's followers has abated much of any, but I'm not motivated enough to try to research it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 10:29 AM

Back there a ways up-thread, Bainbo quoted the article:

"Likewise, although no one was raptured, God is no longer saving souls, Camping writes."

Then Bainbo asked/commented:

So Harold's not being saved either, then? Or his followers? He's showing great strength of spirit in dealing with it so calmly.

No, Bainbo, he's saying, "My followers and I are already saved, and we will be raptured when the time comes, and if you're not already one of us, you're out of luck! So nyah, nyah, nyah to you!"

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 07:41 AM

Aren't the schools in the UK due to be on their half term break then? If so he could have a point.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 03:55 AM

Nor I he said from eye that's blind


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 03:36 AM

I see no post from 999


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 03:33 AM

"Trafalgar Day?

The bounder!"

I'll keep an eye out for you, laddie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Musket
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 03:28 AM

Les Barker's song "Jehova's Witness at the Door" sums it up for me. Mind you, a branch of my family are of that particular persuasion, although I believe it started as a "conchy" stunt during the war by one of them and the joke was on them because like crabs, it seems to be catching.

Nice people though, seem to smile more than is good for you, but nice people. Just don't get them started or your coffee will go cold and if, like me, you put somebody's life above their father's belief, don't get them (or me) started on blood transfusions.

Anyway, anybody know what their take is on the rapture? If they don't have a view, then sack their PR man.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 02:28 AM

Trafalgar Day?

The bounder!


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Oct 11 - 01:38 AM

That Guest was me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 10:18 PM

I fought fires with a fellow who was a JW. I taught one of his sons and one of his daughters. Couldn't ask for better people. Those who have knocked on my door have been invited in if it's convenient, and though not necessarily pleased when I passed on the religion stuff, never gave up trying to help me see the light. Once a month, like clockwork, there they were. Nice people.

My fellow firefighter couldn't respond to MVCs because the possibility of having to help with transfusions (volume expanders) was opposed to his beliefs. He was one helluva pump operator though, and since that's who folks on the sharp end depend on, ya just don't pass 'em up. As LH said, good people and great neighbours.

I do however agree with Gnu. This knock on the door at 2:15 pm stuff is a bit much, and sometimes that's early in the morning to me. With them I have never had to be impolite in order to say goodbye.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 10:08 PM

Yeah. :-D Right with ya there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: gnu
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 09:16 PM

Cool, LH. Cool. I'd rather have a JW as a neighbour than the trash down the street a ways. Ya got a point... a VERY good point.

As long as they don't come knockin on the door early in the morn.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 09:10 PM

Why not just borrow shitloads of money and spend it? After all, you won't have to pay it back beyond the 21st, that is?


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:54 PM

That's not quite it, gnu. I know some Jehovah's Witnesses, and none of them think they are among the 144,000 who to to heaven. They assume they probably are not. What they do think is that many millions of good people (including, hopefully themselves) will remain on the Earth but will live in a new paradise-like planet that has been transformed into a fertile, peaceful environment where both Nature and the human race flourish in natural balance, where there's no more war, one unified society that welcomes all races equally, etc...

So this thing they believe about the 144,000 does not refer to the presumed destiny of most JWs, but just to a small minority of them.

I will say this: Although I do not share the belief system of the JWs, all of them that I have met have been good people, good neighbours, people I felt that I could trust to be good neighbours...and that counts for a lot. This doesn't mean I buy their beliefs, but it does mean I respect them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: gnu
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:33 PM

"be polite when closing the door on Jehovah's Witnesses"

You closed the door? Yer fucked if yer not one of the 144,000 JWs going to heaven. Did you get a coupon before you shut the door? If you did, check the expiry date. There's not much time left.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 07:43 PM

Thanks for the tip-off... Guess I won't buy any green bananas tomorrow...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 07:34 PM

Har! Har! ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 03:26 PM

No, banjos go the other way


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 02:57 PM

Pete Seegar, Ralph Stanley, Earl Scruggs, Steve Martin and Bela Fleck have all had theirs loaded on the One True Packing Crate of Salvation. So it CAN be done.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 12:53 PM

What about banjos? Not that I want to bring one with me...hardly! I'm just worried that someone else might do so. ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 12:43 PM

OK I've been reluctant to mention this but I have to tell you that you CAN take it with you to the other side. God has chosen me to be - The Keeper of the Vessel. It's the one true packing crate that can transport physical objects to - The Other Side.

But because room is limited I am only accepting cash and musical instruments. Please contact me and I'll give you the address where you should send them but you'll have to act fast.

No accordians please. God's orders.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 12:41 PM

You got a good point there, 999, about how the observer bein' there affects the observation cos the observer puts his own way of thinkin' into the observation...kinda like puttin' a measure of salt and pepper into the soup. He gives the observation a unique flavor that's all his own. So we all see somethin' a bit different, even though we are supposedly all lookin' at the same thing. Still, you gotta be there to be the observer, don'tcha?

If the world ended, would we know it? If we are part of the world, we wouldn't know it cos we would have ended too. If we are existin' at some level independent from the world (which I guess could be a possibility) then we might notice it from that other place of observin', and say, "Well that world we was playin' around in has ended."

If so, I figger we'd either be in some new kinda "world" or else we'd just be sorta like the bodiless observer that is everywhere at the same time. That would mean ya wouldn't need no money or clothes no longer, which would sorta take the pressure off, wouldn't it?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 09:30 AM

End of the World, the sequel.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,Seayaker
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:58 AM

As well as interest I've lost my cookie

Is it worth going through the hassle of recovering it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:53 AM

Damn!!....I've got an ISA maturing on the 24th.


Does that mean I'll lose some of the interest?


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:46 AM

'...ya can only notice somethin' when yer "there", not when you ain't...

Very profound Chongo, Very Profound.'

It's profound, but incomplete. Heisenberg noted that the act of being there to make the observation interferes with what one observes. So obviously the only way to see things clearly is 'not be there'. However, when we couple that to the philosophical insight that 'no matter where you go, there you are', well, you can see where that road leads. That's right, it leads to Rome. Obviously, the only way to notice Rome is when y'ain't there.

That friggin' monkey could well be president someday.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bert
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:08 AM

...ya can only notice somethin' when yer "there", not when you ain't...

Very profound Chongo, Very Profound.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: terrier
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:00 AM

I'd like to confess right now.. I don't polish my guitar 8#

One thing's for sure, the more time goes by, the closer we get to the end of the world..


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 07:51 AM

"according to the late lamented Douglas Adams there are two schools of thought. One says that once all this is over, it will be replaced by something even weirder, there is a second school of thought that suggests that this may have already happened."

Thank you, BTNG. My first and possibly last really good laugh of the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: jacqui.c
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 07:21 AM

Damn! I've got some really nice yarn coming through the mail and the date given is the 21st. I hope it arrives early so I can, at least, get started on using it, otherwise I might just as well have spent the money on wild nights out!


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: David C. Carter
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 06:13 AM

Anybody know what time this is supposed to happen?

It's my son's birthday,and we were hoping to have a party that evening!
We've got the booze laid on,should I start testing it now?

David


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Musket
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 05:55 AM

`dunno bout a rapture, but trying to get into my space suit in order to be ready to go to Heaven has given me a rupture.

Thing I can't work out if if like me you lead a good life, help lame dogs over stiles, remember your wife's birthday, clear the dog shit off the lawn, be polite when closing the door on Jehovah's Witnesses, notice another bit of dogs hit you missed last time, don't bugger off to the bog when it's your round, clean your teeth twice a day, polish your guitars, don't raid the fridge three times during Top Gear, ruddy dog shit again, wash your car, buy your wife flowers etc etc etc..

But.. you don't have an imaginary friend.

Can you still be raptured?


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: BTNG
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 04:50 AM

according to the late lamented Douglas Adams there are two schools of thought. One says that once all this is over, it will be replaced by something even weirder, there is a second school of thought that suggests that this may have already happened.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: ollaimh
Date: 16 Oct 11 - 12:33 AM

i am reminded of adrian henry's poem with the couplet

"the end of the world will surely come
in bromley south or orpington"


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Amos
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 11:13 PM

It's ridiculous. THe world ends a million times a second, more or less. It's just you-all put it back so fast, it looks like the same thing it was. Really sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 10:47 PM

What about all those heathens on Arcturus III? Can't God deal with them first? Why, I'll bet there are unbelievers all over the Universe that need wiping out...........

Oh...maybe that's what those Supernovas ARE!


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 10:39 PM

Well, I certainly hope that if the world is going to end on October 21st it happens early in the morning. I have a pretty full day scheduled and I'd be righteouisly indignant if the world ended at 6:00 PM and it turned out I'd worked my butt off for nothing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 08:26 PM

Whew, that was close!


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 08:22 PM

That post was me.

ONE MINUTE LEFT.


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Subject: RE: BS: The End of the World is Back !! Oct 21st
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 11 - 08:18 PM

OK, I know the suspense is killing y'all. Here's my X-mas gift to you. A voice just told me to set your minds at ease.

THE END OF THE WORLD WILL HAPPEN IN THREE MINUTES.

If you're alive to read this post you have been

1) saved
2) enlightened
3) reassured


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