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BS: My kitty is dieing...

Bobert 02 Oct 11 - 09:18 PM
GUEST,ChanteyLass 02 Oct 11 - 09:27 PM
jacqui.c 02 Oct 11 - 09:33 PM
gnu 02 Oct 11 - 10:01 PM
ranger1 02 Oct 11 - 10:15 PM
Jeri 02 Oct 11 - 10:19 PM
Bobert 02 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM
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Stilly River Sage 02 Oct 11 - 10:50 PM
DebC 02 Oct 11 - 11:00 PM
artbrooks 02 Oct 11 - 11:50 PM
JennieG 03 Oct 11 - 01:00 AM
Sandra in Sydney 03 Oct 11 - 04:53 AM
Fossil 03 Oct 11 - 05:50 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 03 Oct 11 - 05:56 AM
ragdall 03 Oct 11 - 06:07 AM
Janie 03 Oct 11 - 06:34 AM
Charley Noble 03 Oct 11 - 08:08 AM
GUEST,Patsy 03 Oct 11 - 08:42 AM
fat B****rd 03 Oct 11 - 08:56 AM
SINSULL 03 Oct 11 - 09:00 AM
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Subject: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:18 PM

Well, Emma, our 9 year old female calico is dieing... We've had her to the vet and she has HIV in cats, she has quit eating and drinking and unless we want to put her thru dieing maybe next month at the vet with tubes feeding her she is still dieing...

It's a bummer and part of me says to take here and have her "put to sleep" but she doesn't seem to be in any pain... She is comfortable and just sleeps and won't eat or drink...

It's a bummer...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,ChanteyLass
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:27 PM

Oh, how sad. Follow your instincts.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 09:33 PM

I know, Bobert. Sometimes it is difficult to make that final decision. Rule of thumb for me is, are they in distress. When it gets to that point and the vet says there is nothing left to..............

(((((((((((Bobert, Eve & Emma)


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:01 PM

Oh my. Oh dear. If she will not eat or drink, it's time. She can't tell you she is in pain, but, if she won't eat or drink...

I've been there and done that a few times as many of us have, perhaps even you?

If it's a done deal, do it. I know I would want someone to be that merciful to me if I couldn't eat or drink.

Sniff.

My heart goes out to you and to her.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:15 PM

Sorry Bobert. Went through that not all that long ago. Our Katie-cat had lymphoma, which we only found out about after she stopped eating. The thing to remember about cats is that once they stop eating, they have a tendency towards liver failure.

I'm sorry you, the P-vine and Emma have to go through this.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:19 PM

I think I agree with Jacqui, and it's the level of distress. Does she seem to enjoy anything? Sleeping, being petted or anything?
Not eating, even starvation, probably isn't something that's bothering her. I've hear many people say you have no doubts when the right time rolls around, if it does.
Hugs.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM

Thanks all... She seems at peace... Sleeps a lot... I don't want to push myself on her so I spend about 10 minutes every couple of hours with her... She purrs a little as I pet her... This is so hard... So very hard...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:31 PM

She purrs a little... I can't read any more.

I hope things go "okay" for you both.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 10:50 PM

Both of mine reached that point within a year of each other, and both were miserable, so hard as it was, when the time come I took each to the Humane Society to be euthanized. They might have died soon on their own, but they wouldn't have been happy or comfortable. The calico, in particular, her body language said she felt bad; I took her home to bury her, and her face looked so much younger and peaceful - I hadn't seen that look for a long time. Poor thing.

Take care of yourselves and your kitty; it's equally painful whether you wait or do it now. Hugs all around.

My vet charges a small fortune for this procedure and disposal isn't cheap either. When the first cat was so ill it needed to be done that day it was a Thursday afternoon and no one was in and the emergency vet wanted a horrendous fee to check her first before they would do it. I called the Humane Society to see if they could recommend a vet open that afternoon and she said they do it for whatever I could donate. They understand that the last act of kindness we can show a pet is to give them a peaceful death, so they don't charge.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: DebC
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 11:00 PM

Big hugs to you, Bobert and P-Vine. Emma has had a good life with lots of love and you (and she) will know when to let go.

It always comes down to love, don't it?

Debra


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Oct 11 - 11:50 PM

Been there - twice in the past several years. As long as she seems comfortable, just be there for her. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: JennieG
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:00 AM

So sorry, Bobert.....been there before, and it's never easy. Last time nature took care of it for us but we would have had to make the decision very soon in any case. Sending a hug to you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:53 AM

love & hugs

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Fossil
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:50 AM

Oh shit.

Have just had to deal with a very sick cat myself, while my better half is away in Europe. Now our Mrs Fluff is fortunately on the mend. but it's a gut-wrenching awful time and I do sympathise with y'all.

Hang tough, buddy.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:56 AM

My heart goes out to you. I have one who just turned 17, recently her health has been up and down. Dreading her passing. The older we get, we tend to prefer animals to people, they never let us down.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: ragdall
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:07 AM

(((((((((((Bobert and P-Vine))))))))))))
It's so hard to know what to do for our little buddies when they become ill and so very hard to let them go. You'll know what to do when it's time to do it.

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Janie
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:34 AM

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:08 AM

Bobert-

Very sad when this happens.

One of our strays that we adopted we later learned had feline HIV. He survived for another 5 years but his life was cut short. In his last week we noticed that he was sleeping much more, and being more snugly than usual. Then one morning he went out and didn't come back. We later found him curled up beneath a pine tree in our back yard. We still miss the big lug.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:42 AM

So very sad to hear that, my cat was 18 but I still did not want her to go. She had been such a faithful friend it was a hard decision to agree to her being put to sleep but she wasn't eating or drinking at all and could hardly stand come the end. Despite that I still found it hard to let her go I just hoped that nature would take it's course but in the end it was the only thing to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:56 AM

Oh f**k, I know exaxctly how you feel, Bobert.
Along with our Border Collie I have missed people less than cats we have had.
I know you'll do what's best and I know it's hard to let them go.
ATB from Charlie


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 09:00 AM

I am sorry, Bobert.
Two facts from experience:
1 If she is not drinking, her kidneys will shut down leaving her in severe pain.
2 If you find her purring for no reason, she is in pain. It is a mechanism cats use to deal with pain.
Do what you know is right.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 11:25 AM

Just what I was going to point out, Marigold. Esp. if they are not drinking. Cats go down hill quickly without hydration.

Much love and hugs to you all, Bobertdarlin'. It is never, ever easy, but the relief to them is a gift we can give in return for the unconditional love received.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 11:55 AM

When their kidneys go there is a form of dementia they experience. My oldest cat could be treated with a form of dialysis by injecting 200ml of saline solution under the skin on his back twice a week. The bulge of water slowly is absorbed and passes through the kidneys, clearing them out. But he was strong and hated it and we hated it and decided not to torture the cat for the next few months to try to keep him alive.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:52 PM

We are taking her to the vet this afternoon with an open mind...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: ranger1
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:11 PM

(((Bobert and P-Vine)))


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Becca72
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 02:31 PM

I'm so sorry, Bobert. This is the part that truly sucks about pet ownership.

Me and my 3 boys will be thinking of you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 02:58 PM

SRS... can the shot be given on the neck? Cats don't mind that. Well, they mind a bit but it doesn't hurt them. I gave one insulin every morning for two years that way.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Hollowfox
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 03:34 PM

$#@! You have my sympathy. Ome of my most senior cats is going through this as well. She seems to have had a stroke (front and back legs go at a different gait,eats and drinks heartily every other day but drops food from her mouth) When she's napping she just wants left alone but when she's awake she wants company, and then falls asleep cuddled up to me. Whatever the decision at the vet's, it'll be one of the hardest decisions you have to make. Like they said, follow your instincts and your heart.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 03:55 PM

Gnu, It's an IV and a large volume of saline solution, not what would fit in a syringe. It takes a few minutes to drain in from the IV bag once you have the needle under the skin and you have to hold a struggling cat in place all the while. My son helped me with this and the first time he nearly fainted. It was rough on everyone.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:08 PM

I feel so sad for you all, Bobert. I didn't want to even look at this thread, 'cos I've been there so often myself. But I feel I must in all conscience advise you to do that last and final act of love for your little cat. Not drinking will cause great distress, and I know you wouldn't want that. So sad. Kindest thoughts, Eliza.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:16 PM

SRS... apologies... yes, OF COURSE - 200ml. My bad. I am getting worse day by day.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 04:36 PM

So sorry to hear this Bobert. We lost one of our cats to FIV a long time ago, so we sort of know what you're going through. Do what you think is best.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:01 PM

Sorry to hear about your kitty. Always tough when one of our beloved pets departs for the Rainbow Bridge. **HUGS**

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 05:03 PM

Well, at approximately 3:30 this afternoon Emma went on to the big litter box in the sky... The vet told us that she'd only live another day or two and would be very uncomfortable so we made the decision to have here put to sleep...

I just came in from burying her...

Sniff...

Thanks all for ya'll's support...

Bobert and the P-Vine


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:00 PM

Bobert-

So sad.

We buried Gashay, our old tom cat, in his favorite beach towel and with a catnip mouse. "Gashay" in Ethiopian means "My Protector" and he was indeed the guardian of our yard, and our other two cats.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Janie
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:17 PM

Love to you and P-Vine, Beaubear.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: open mike
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:18 PM

sorry to hear this, Bobert and P-Vine.
I guess the kitty made it thru the move..
It is a relief to know
that she is no longer suffering


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Hawker
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:19 PM

HUGE Hugs :0(
lots of love to you both, rest in peace little kitty x


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 06:45 PM

RIP Emma.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 07:13 PM

Emma came from the animal shelter in Jefferson County, WV, where she spend about her first 6 months so she was an "older kitten"... She was a calico with brown and tan and white with a tabby tail and she was always kinda on the frail side... I doubt if she ever weighed more than 7 pounds... Until about 4 years ago she had Meeko, a black long haired cat who protected her but when he died she became lonely and depressed... She did not do well with our other male cats and lived mostly in out farrowing barn back in Virginia... Actually she had become quite independent in there and the only way I could get her moved with to trap her in a Have-a-Heart trap and bring her down in the trap... Since getting here she did calm down and let up pet and hold her again... She loved to sit on the front porch glider and just watch everything... She will be missed terribly by us...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 07:19 PM

Ahhh, gee. No words. Wish I had some.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 03:20 AM

My love to you and the P-Vine, Bob.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 06:29 AM

Sorry, Bobert. Like most others on this thread I know how you feel.
Take care
Charlie.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: JennieG
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 07:20 AM

Sorry to hear about your kitty Bobert.....they each take a little piece of us when they go.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 10:13 AM

With the exception of GfinS's thoughtless post, thank you all for your supportive posts...

We've had a general design for our gardens and there is this place not far from where Emma liked to spend her days and we'd planned on using some hardscape there so I buried her there and now it's just a matter of finding the perfect rock from our collection which will act as a headstone... We've always come up with names for out various beds so this one will be "Emma's Bed"... The two main plantings in it so far are two camellias but it will end up with a lot more before we call it quits on that bed...

B~

[the insensitive post has been deleted---it was beyond the limits]


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 10:46 AM

Bobert, you want some wild roses for that piece of the garden? If so, lemme know. I know she was just a cat, but she was your friend. Them we get to choose.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:13 AM

Try to think only of all the happy and contented times Emma had with you. She was so lucky to have you choose her, and I'm sure led a very cared-for life at your side. You always did your best for her, even at the end, and nobody could have done more.


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:57 AM

I'm sorry, Bobert. It is so hard to lose a friend.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:33 PM

Thinking of you, Bobert. Like a lot of the others here, I know how hard it is to lose a loved pet. There's nothing anyone can even say except that we're here for you, and that we know what it feels like. I have found that the happy memories live on and after awhile will outweigh the sorrow.

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: BS: My kitty is dieing...
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:42 PM

Those darn little four-legged people can be endearing. Are any of the plantings in the plot perennials, or have you considered putting in a little something that will be?


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