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Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set

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maeve 30 Nov 11 - 09:31 AM
JHW 29 Nov 11 - 02:51 PM
Dan Schatz 28 Nov 11 - 11:47 PM
Lonesome EJ 28 Nov 11 - 11:41 PM
Dan Schatz 28 Nov 11 - 07:55 PM
Genie 28 Nov 11 - 07:45 PM
maeve 28 Nov 11 - 06:22 PM
maeve 28 Nov 11 - 11:31 AM
breezy 28 Nov 11 - 06:12 AM
katlaughing 27 Nov 11 - 11:35 PM
Genie 27 Nov 11 - 11:00 PM
dick greenhaus 27 Nov 11 - 05:33 PM
michaelr 27 Nov 11 - 05:22 PM
Roger the Skiffler 27 Nov 11 - 11:36 AM
dick greenhaus 27 Nov 11 - 11:32 AM
Noreen 27 Nov 11 - 10:56 AM
Bobert 26 Nov 11 - 09:00 PM
Genie 26 Nov 11 - 08:43 PM
Fidjit 26 Nov 11 - 06:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 09:31 AM

Thank you, Dan & Honorable Son. Such kind words fit neatly into a low spot here.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: JHW
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 02:51 PM

Ref Charley Noble's finding in Oct re non playing CDs I found only three would play on my 'proper' CD player, a very good Arcam Delta quite old now (but re-lasered by them). Car player in Honda Jazz largely OK but from track 20 on can grind to a halt though a new journey starts where it left off and may then play on OK. No track details displayed.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:47 PM

An ear, LEJ, an ear....

Dan


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:41 PM

Again, he proves himself a perceptive guy...and with an eye for the ladies, Dan. :>)


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:55 PM

In the interest of making this thread about reviews, once again -

This afternoon I was driving in the car with my four year old son listening to the solstice CD (I need to start the season early to get in the right frame of mind to plan Christmas services). It's a fine collection - and at the end, after Maeve's song, my son said,

"Whoever sang that song must be a very beautiful woman."

And indeed, it is so.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:45 PM

Well, $15 for a single CD with 20 songs on it is still a pretty good and standard price.    Of course, if you were going to buy 4 different individual CDs, you could have the other two as well for the same price.

And I still recommend the teamwork approach (pooling resources to buy whole sets and then distribute them among the 'team') as a way to acquire the separate CDs for $10 apiece.   It just takes a little planning and cooperation.


Genie


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: maeve
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 06:22 PM

Oh, well.

Here's the new thread for purchase of the "This is Us" cd singles. Those who can: buy several; buy now!


"This Is Us" cd singles for sale


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: maeve
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:31 AM

I'm most grateful for the set some kind 'Catters paid for and sent to me; without them, I'd never have heard this very enjoyable music. I have sent the small amount we could (barely) spare towards a gift set for another, more deserving member. If this set was professionally produced under studio conditions I'd try to save up to buy several single albums as gifts. For what it is, I can't afford $15 each when we don't even have plumbing or electrical wiring in the post-fire house. That's not a whinge hoping to elicit gifts; it's real life.

This is a delightful set of albums with an impressive range and interesting levels of quality of music. Kudos to all those who made it happen. I hope Max's Mudcat development fund benefits greatly from the sale of these albums, yet I wish the individual price could be slightly more affordable, at least for contributors, once all expenses have been covered. If not, so be it.

Thank you,
Maeve


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: breezy
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 06:12 AM

I think the market for this is limited to those of us in the know. After all it aint going to be widely known about and Chris Evans isnt going to champion this cause !

It will be mainly for those who are performers and participants in this project who will buy and then primarily the album on which they perform.

Most of Joe Public will baulk at the prices being quoted. I certainly did when I heard the price and was not impressed when it was not possible to buy individual CDs on the launch night.

In the end , value and quality will prevail, plus a smattering of philanthropy, where frugality reigns at present.

Now , If I were to receive a donation of £10 for one of my CDs - 7 albums to choose from - I will donate 30% i.e £3 from each 'sale' to the mudcat.

Offer closes May 1st 2012.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:35 PM

Thanks, Dick, that's good to know. And, I agree, $15 for a single CD is only fair.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:00 PM

I really do encourage people to buy the whole set if that's fiscally feasible.   And I think it's good that we have a sizeable discount for the CDs when you buy the whole set.

My suggestion about individual CDs is mainly for people like me, who have already bought the full set but who might like some extra copies of one or more of the individual CDs IN ADDITION to that.

For example, the Christmas (etc.) holidays are upon us, and I can see some people wanting extra copies of the "Until The Dark Time Ends" CD now for that reason.

My suggestion was also a way for people to be able to buy the individual CDs for $10 US each by teaming up to buy whole sets and then distributing them amongst themselves.
(This is of course more feasible in areas like the DC area or other areas with a heavy concentration of Mudcatters and F O M [Friends Of Mudcatters].)

If we are going to start selling the CDs individually, for now I would suggest charging at least $2, maybe $3 more for each individual CD.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 05:33 PM

I have no problem with selling single titles ($15), but if there is an unbalanced number of orders it may make selling complete sets a problem for the future.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: michaelr
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 05:22 PM

I too think it may be time to sell individual titles. One contributor has asked for a copy of the CD she is on but doesn't want (can't afford) the whole set. If she can't buy it, I'll probably rip it for her from my copy, which doesn't benefit Mudcat at all.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:36 AM

kat, what my friend actually said was:
"Don't underestimate the very exacting nature of this skill of a) creating a silence and b) getting the silence to end at precisely the right moment. Too long, and we miss the start of the next track."
*BG*

RtS


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:32 AM

Noreen- THey're produced in the US. We can ship them to the UK without jewel cases for a total of $65 (US); with jewel cases cost a good deal more.(It costs about one quid to ship an empty jewl case.If any Mudcatters happen to be visiting the us and are willing to take some cased sets back, that would be ideal.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Noreen
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 10:56 AM

Oh! I want a full set, but was waiting 'til the first rush was over as I'm not in a desperate hurry for them.

Does this mean I've now missed then chance to buy them at local prices and have to pay to have them shipped from America??


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 09:00 PM

Thanks, pavane, but I got my harp player: E-Jay be da' man...

B~


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Subject: Orders: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 08:43 PM

I'm wondering if it's worth, at this time, pursuing the idea of encouraging purchases of individual CDs.

My suggestion would be this:
1. Ask around, of your friends and neighbors (geography nothwithstanding), whether they'd be interested in purchasing individual CDs from the new "This Is Us" set and, if so, how many of each.
2. Whenever you/we have assembled enough requests for the various CDs to amount to full sets, purchase those sets and distribute the individual CDs amongst the various purchasers.

I'm guessing that each of the contributors may have want/need for multiple copies of the CDs that they have tracks on, but slightly fewer of us have want/need for the entire 6-CD sets. But if, say, Maeve wants 4 copies of the CDs that she has tracks on and Amos wants 4 copies of the ones he's on and My guru always said wants 4 copies of the ones she has tracks on, etc., etc., we could put together orders for a whole bunch of whole sets.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Fidjit
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 06:23 PM

I've asked this before elswhere. I missed the launch at Herga my own fault for not keeping up.

Any chance of somewher in England to get hold of some or at least the Chrismasy one. ?

Chas


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: GUEST,bradfordian
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 05:54 PM

OK, that tells me there's no point in getting another batch made, at least for quite a while!

I reckon Mudcat must have a few thousand members, and I would guess most don't donate to Mudcat. Now I would have thought that members who might have been a bit lax in supporting Mudcat might have taken this opportunity (being kerstmas an' all) to buy the CDs and get a double benefit -- supporting the 'cat, and getting hours of listening pleasure.

Just down to the die-hards then!

Well, it's your loss, it IS an excellent set of CDs, AND, it IS GREAT VALUE!
If you aint gonna buy them now, just when are you gonna buy 'em?

bradfordian


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 12:52 PM

Maybe everyone is waiting for payday or going through holiday budgets?

RtS, I thought I posted this earlier: next time you can have a CD devoted to all of your sounds of silence!**bg**


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 11:52 AM

I'm stunned by the recent flurry of inactivity. I shipped one set this week.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 26 Nov 11 - 11:06 AM

I hope this makes a lot of money for the 'Cat. It is great value.I agree with everyone about the high standard of performance on voice & instrument by my fellows. I have a couple of quibbles. The volume levels are very varied and I do not have perfect hearing so have to keep turning the volume up and down between tracks. The other quibble is just a matter of personal taste. The mix between folk & blues is about 90% to 10% but I suppose that does reflect the interests of the membership, though I would have liked to hear more blues. Finally, when the Blue Plate Specials were issued I was proud to contribute the silence between the tracks (some of my best work, friends say). I was mortified not to have been asked this time...*BG*

RtS


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: pavane
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 05:13 PM

Bobert - I play a bit of blues harp - maybe next time


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 03:55 PM

THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS A SET.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 10:52 PM

Dick, I must have misunderstood. I thought Barrie said there were just a few left from the first batch.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 09:07 PM

Genie-
The old batch is far from being sold. They're available right now.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 05:43 PM

You cut me to the quick, B


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 05:36 PM

Yer right, EEEJay... Coulda used some harp... Know anyone who plays one???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Tootler
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:20 PM

Mine arrived today. Thanks Barrie for all your efforts. You've done a fabulous job. A pity I wasn't able to make the launch but in the end other matters took over.

SWMBO was not at all impressed that I had tracks on it, but took a look at the track listings and has earmarked some listening so I might not get to listen to them for a while. I will need to check the stack of CDs in her car from time to time as several 'missing' CDs of mine have turned up there in the past.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 02:10 PM

New batch coming soon when the last of the first batch are sold?   Any chance they'll be available in time for Christmas?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:01 AM

Well, it's been one year (and two days) since I started this exciting project.

What we ---and I emphasise WE --- have achieved in that one year is remarkable. I could not have done it on my own. Little did I know just how much help I would need, but the support has been brilliant. I deliberately chose mudelves on both sides of the pond because I wanted to be as inclusive as possible. And that theme followed in the music selection too.
This project was instrumental in taking me to my first Getaway meeting many new and old friends and finally to the UK launch party at Herga FC.

There are just a few more CDs remaining from the first production run (contact Dick Greenhaus for availability) so a big thank you to all who took part in this project and thank you all who have bought the CDs --may they give you many hours of pleasure, and know that you are supporting the MUDCAT CAFE and helping to keep it free.

bradfordian


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 01:29 PM

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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: stallion
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 03:50 AM

captivating, brimming with talent and lovely people, love them both, my favourite is Sweet Minerva. I think they would go down a storm at Mystic so someone flag them up to Geoff Kaufman.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: My guru always said
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 03:33 AM

Yes, Genie, Hazel is Pistachio here, and they do harmonise beautifully!


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Genie
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 02:03 AM

Ernie, Hissyfit is two women, Hazel Richings (Pistachio?) and Linda Kelly. They do harmonize beautifully.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 01:07 AM

The Stone CD is well tracked by Bradfordian, as are the others I have listened to. His sense of pace and the arrangements by style and theme are very well done.Again, I applaud his efforts and those others who worked on this project, and again I will say I enjoyed listening to every track, and I really like the sense of intimacy it gives with the many names and personalities I've seen here through the years.That said, I do have my favorite tracks.
I think George Papavgeris may be the best mudcat songwriter of all, and I have always liked the pure joy of Circles in the Air. The song conjures happy feeling like few others, and the rhythm and chorus reflect a very pleasant Greek/British sound and point of view.
Being a fan of harmony, there are lots of nice examples on this CD. Hissyfit's Northern Tide is a fine example, and I assume that is Hissyfit harmonizing with herself on the track. very pretty.
John Mackenzie's Halcyon Days is evocative of Leo Kottke, and very well done.
It is a very satisfying thing to hear words you have written sung by a true professional, and David Coffin does just a wonderful job with Song for Barry Finn.
Rosin Okkar's Modir Min I Kvi Kvi manages to sound exotic, arcane, medieval, and yet on some level...it rocks! Why does it remind me of early Velvet Underground? Really like the sound.
Seamus Kennedy's My Father was a Miner is a great storytelling song and Seamus's voice couldn't be clearer or stronger.
Bobert's Buttermilk Blues is a great North Mississippi blues tune and Bob's vocal is excellent. (Could have used a little harp though;>))


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:42 PM

Dick,

You might want to wait a bit until we know more of where Art is going to be. I just posted an update to his thread and have sent Chris a request re' addys.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 09:58 PM

WEll we've received enough donation so that I'll be sending a set out to Art tomorrow. With a note "From your friends at the Mudcat Cafe."
A donation doesn't have to be large; a few five buck ones would be helpful.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: bradfordian
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 04:16 PM

One of the things about this CD set is that as well as giving us a sample of the music of a cross section of mudcatters, in many cases, if there is something which makes our ears prick up, we might also be able to get more music by that artiste. I would like to encourage you to look at some of the offerings of our contributors. I think the Mudcat CDs help us to discover more excellent music. There are many contributors who have either CDs or on-line music. Check out the liner notes for further infomation.
And enjoy!

bradfordian


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 06 Nov 11 - 01:55 PM

For the Until The Dark Time Ends component of This Is Us, Barrie rather sensibly suggested we edited our Gower Wassail down to a more compilation album friendly duration. For those who might be curious, we've just uploaded the full length recording as part of our ongoing who-knows-what's-up-next Festively Seasonal Soundcloud page which we're calling WINTERFLORA - absolutely all of which is freely downloadable, and absolutely none of which is available elsewhere...


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: severed-head
Date: 04 Nov 11 - 05:57 PM

Received my CD set a few days ago and have been playing WATER several times. I have to say how impressed I am with the quality of the singing/playing and also the recording quality. I have to echo katlaughing's comments above
"I don't think I belong amongst such talent, but I am grateful for being kindly included."
What a huge amount of talent there is at Mudcat!
Garry


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: bradfordian
Date: 04 Nov 11 - 06:17 AM

Doh! you beat me to it mgas!
I bought 3 sets from Dick, gave two sets to my generous hosts, and kept one for myself (though I have already passed two of the CDs to others--so if anyone in the UK would an extra EARTH,SKY,STONE or WOOD--PM me and I'll get me another set when I get the next batch made in the UK--not just yet though, November is so megabusy for me)

bradfordian


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: My guru always said
Date: 04 Nov 11 - 03:46 AM

Dare I say it.... 100....


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: My guru always said
Date: 04 Nov 11 - 03:45 AM

I recall how delighted I was when I purchased and listened to the 'Blue Plate Specials' set of Mudcatter CD's. I hadn't been around here that long and only knew a few Catters, but the CD's opened my eyes to the wonderful talented family we have here.

I can't wait to get my hands on 'This Is Us'!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: Janie
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 07:40 PM

Dick, is it ok to ask how many sets have been sold thus far?


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 06:30 PM

Wow... talk about "above and beyond..."!


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 04:33 PM

Bradfordonian, michaelr and I all paid for the set. Max is the only one that got a freebie.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: GUEST,999
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 03:49 PM

I'll be ordering a set in a few weeks, Dick. Just can't right now.


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Subject: RE: Review: THIS IS US: New Mudcat CD set
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 02:37 PM

Thanks, Barrie & Dick. That's pretty much what I was expecting.
I would like to contribute towards sets for Art Thieme and Jean Richie. It's also (very) possible that someone may suggest another name or three (that I haven't thought of myself) and I would think, "Oh, yes, them too!" -- although I confess it wouldn't change the amount I feel I can send -- just how it's to be divvied up.

I'm also assuming that Bradfordian and michaelr will not be charged for their copies (feels like that would like a bit much!). Ideally, it would be nice if their helpers also got free copies, but I can see how that might be impractical... but maybe they could get a discounted price?

Perhaps I'll send a check to Dick and just say, "Use it as you think best"...


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