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Knockholt September 2011

Pierre Le Chapeau 05 Sep 11 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,Wooden Z 05 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM
Abdul The Bul Bul 05 Sep 11 - 06:38 PM
Richard Bridge 05 Sep 11 - 07:40 PM
Richard Bridge 05 Sep 11 - 08:03 PM
Pierre Le Chapeau 06 Sep 11 - 02:55 AM
Pierre Le Chapeau 06 Sep 11 - 03:08 AM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 11 - 04:47 AM
Pierre Le Chapeau 06 Sep 11 - 05:57 AM
Abdul The Bul Bul 06 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM
morning wood 06 Sep 11 - 08:25 AM
Abdul The Bul Bul 06 Sep 11 - 08:30 AM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 11 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,Woodsie 06 Sep 11 - 09:14 AM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 11 - 09:55 AM
Abdul The Bul Bul 06 Sep 11 - 12:06 PM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 11 - 12:18 PM
Dipsodeb 06 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM
Pierre Le Chapeau 06 Sep 11 - 01:20 PM
melodeonboy 06 Sep 11 - 01:56 PM
Lady Raffles 06 Sep 11 - 04:31 PM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 11 - 05:54 PM
Pierre Le Chapeau 07 Sep 11 - 03:41 AM
Richard Bridge 07 Sep 11 - 03:47 AM
Girl Friday 07 Sep 11 - 08:41 AM
VirginiaTam 08 Sep 11 - 09:36 AM
Lady Raffles 08 Sep 11 - 11:02 AM
Pierre Le Chapeau 08 Sep 11 - 11:03 AM
GUEST,Michael Fish 08 Sep 11 - 02:44 PM
GUEST,John Ketley and Frank bough 09 Sep 11 - 03:47 AM
VirginiaTam 09 Sep 11 - 10:28 AM
Lady Raffles 09 Sep 11 - 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 01:20 PM

I do not mind throwing logs on the fire during the evening sing around session friday and Saturday night. I have done it for the last ten years without complaint or injury. I also do not throw logs on in front of folk who are playing there slot showering them and there instruments in a sea of sparks has I recall happened last year when a newbie jumped on the band wagon and started throwing logs on directly in front of performers? and quite rightly got told to sit down .

I wont be there to erect the Marquee' but I will be more then happy to help take it down.

I really hope this Knockers will be a successful event though turn out concerns me.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,Wooden Z
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM

You should have designated fire wardens and nobody else chucking logs. Myself and Graham Atwood did it for 8 years and Richard Phipps has done the honours for about 4 years now. THis is best for all concerned and dare I say it Health & Safety - remember the close shave Jim had!


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 06:38 PM

Well it looks as though it will be wet so I'm bringing me big tent.
Al


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 07:40 PM

I think it is not going to be very wet.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 08:03 PM

Overnight Fri/Sat looking a bit soggy, but the rest not bad at all, and in fact the forecasts are in and out like a fiddler's elbow. Late last week it was forecast like the dogs' Baleriacs (they are very hot islands) and I booked extra dogsitter and am going up Weds (barring disaster)


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 02:55 AM

I have heard of Dogs Bollocks but not dogs' Baleriacs??//
anyway.
I have just this second gone to BBC weather check and Friday is forecast 'White Cloud & Saturday light rain. Tomorrow it will be White Rain and light cloud.

Unfortunately the Fire Wardens we have had in the past at Knockers sadly no longer come to Knockers.

The fact that jim was 100% Rummed up to the eye balls on that occasion the truth is he is a very lucky man. He simply rolled on and rolled out and apart from a smokey jacket he came off non the worst

Dont throw logs on fires when your off your tits on Rum. or anything else for that matter?Your likely to follow them onto the fire in drink fueled momentum. Emily told me all about it years ago.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 03:08 AM

Thats how I fell off a footpath into the sea in Cornwall years ago exactly the same thing' Drink fuel momentum. It turned in to a very traumatic experience which I have only recently talked about through counseling. Hence my terrible fear of heights>


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:47 AM

Met-check is currently showing Thursday evening and Saturday evening no rain at all - but it has been very variable and it might still go back to the predictions of 4 days ago - glorious sun.

Anyway, I'm OK with white cloud, or indeed some light rain, so long as it's not white lightning (at least the UK variant).


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 05:57 AM

Im fine with all weather we have the Marquee. Weather at Knockholt has never been a problem with me if one cold wear thermals two layers if you wish I do and if its wet wear a waterproof coat and hat.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 06:52 AM

Yep but being wet in a small 2 man tent isn't good so my bigger 'stand up' one will be better.
Al


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: morning wood
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 08:25 AM

Is this the tent that's so large it's got east and west wings? I'll take my freebie floral one.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 08:30 AM

Don't call em wings, I lost my last tent when it took off.
Al


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:10 AM

Wind is up today in Lower Stoke


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,Woodsie
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:14 AM

As Knockholt is no longer under the control of folkmob why not look at having it at a sensible time of year - then the thread wouldn't get clogged up with weather forcasts ... if there is such a thing as a sensible time - I would say mid july would be a good bet at least if it does rain - it should still be fairly warm.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:55 AM

A point to consider I'm sure. But what's wrong with wevva forecasts?


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 12:06 PM

always a lottery any time of the bleedin year English weather. Better than constant hot sun though but.
Al


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 12:18 PM

Please can we have some constant hot sun?


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 01:08 PM

Hiya all

I can understand your concerns pierre but the wood was delivered yesterday and Daniel knows exactly where we have it so that's fine.


Can't say about the loos though, we shall see what happens we will try and get there as early as possible. The loo people and the wood man both know about the key and where it is so should be ok.

Debsx


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 01:20 PM

Yes we could change the dates to warmer times it was lovely back in April and May I have a Tan to prove it.

I am coming by bus from Orpington Friday and hope to be on site by 10 oclock. all I hope is the R5 is quicker then the 286 which I caught today at the top of Eltham high street after having a towel shave in the barbers shop.

Clean shaven I got on the 286 what with sheer volume of traffic, Traffic lights changing every two seconds. Parlarvering about changing sodding drivers, Idiotic school kids ringing the bell by the time I got too my stop I had grown a ucking beard. Nearly a hour to get home from the very top of Eltham high street to the Rochester way?


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: melodeonboy
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 01:56 PM

So, another close shave then! (See previous post of Wooden Z!) :)


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 04:31 PM

Mick has just got back from delivering marque to Knockholt and reports that 2 toilets & fire wood are all present and correct....also the skip we hired in June is still there! it's got a few bits and pieces that the farmer's put in but probably has enough room for another 8 black bin liners.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 05:54 PM

That's 'andy 'arry.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 03:41 AM

The skips still there from June. I think folk mob ought to have phoned them up to have got it collected?/or they have tried to collect it and cant because the gates locked. there again if such the case the skip company should have phoned/contacted the person who arranged the hire in the first place or they have simply forgotten about it.
bewildering or what?

I do not clearly know the contract law on skip hire but when the skip company does get the skip back then Folkmob may have to pay for the time it has sat on the field exceeding the contract hire rules? I assume?


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 03:47 AM

And on the wevva front, having looked at Met Office, BBC, and Met-check, currently a good bit of rain is forecast for Sunday morning, all the other days from Weds through Sat have dry patches and no major inundation is predicted, and even the winds do not look horrendous (apart from the obvious Metcheck programming error predicting winds of about 250mph some of the time).

I now need to pick up my reclining plants, get some hooks for hanging baskets, hang up the fallen hanging baskets, get Scotch bonnets and other supplies, make harissa paste, pack car and van not forgetting the late extras, modify the allen keys for the marquee and boogie off.

I think I will leave gettng the meat for the tagine until Sat - meat in a caravan for 4 days could be less nice by then. Bit of a nuisance as I have found a place in Gravesend that sells goat, and I don't know anywhere near Knockers I can get either that or real mutton as distinct from lamb.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Girl Friday
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 08:41 AM

And there's all that mutton just running around next door!!

Glad to see it is at least dry this morning. It's been quite windy here in the upper part of Orpington, so hope you get that marquee tied down very securely. Hot sun would be wonderful. Have a good time all of you.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 09:36 AM

Sister crow going to be a no show. Given rheumy pain of late and the not so promising weather, we might be absent as well.   Sigh.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 11:02 AM

Oh what a shame, we'll miss you all. Hope you feel better soon.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 11:03 AM

You Chris and crow sis will be missed, Tam may see you at the Gi later this month.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,Michael Fish
Date: 08 Sep 11 - 02:44 PM

A lady from kent phoned me earlier today and asked if there was a storm brewing - I said "rest easy madam I'm off to Knockholt"


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,John Ketley and Frank bough
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 03:47 AM

Were are off to knockers too see that man they call Noah?


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 10:28 AM

It is decided... Chris has too much work and I have too much pain. I'd have been taking codydramol and would not be able to drink at all. No fun.

As it is 40 miles away from us, maybe spend a few hours with you guys tomorrow afternoon / evening if weather and other factors are right.

Hugs...


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 11:55 AM

Never mind Tam, tonight when you're cosy in your bed and the wind is howling outside - spare a thought for that far off Kentish hill top and the soggy mad people huddled around a fire in the driving rain.....singing! - then turn over and go back to sleep. Have I made you feel better about not coming?

If you don't make it tomorrow we'll see you next year x


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 01:04 PM

pout sniffle... no Sue, you 'aven't made me feel better. Mad people singing and campfire negates howling wind and driving rain.

Curse you rheumatoid arthritis. Depriving me of association with mad people.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,richard bridge on netbook
Date: 09 Sep 11 - 07:27 PM

weather has been tolerable, fire lovely, singing good. 20 people right now.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: melodeonboy
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 07:31 AM

I'm pleased to see the sun's come out for you. I hope you're all having a good time.

Sorry I couldn't make it (yet again!). Working Monday to Friday and gigging Saturday and Sunday!


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: GUEST,Capella
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 07:40 AM

Ok, lets do it! small tent, guitar, banjo, several packs of Old Speckled Hen going into the back of the car... Knockholt here we come!!


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 10:55 AM

Well sincere thanks for to the organisers for all their efforts.
A memorable weekend indeed.
Everything I brought home seems to smell of bonfires.
Al


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 11:39 AM

Everyone seems to have been very positive.

A few more came on Saturday (oooh Matron).

The feast had almost an excess of delightful tastes.

There were enough performers so that no-one was really under pressure, but equally everyone got enough turns, and the performances were varied and generally of good standard. Everyone brought a positive approach, it seemed.

The marquee went up and down well, and the wood lasted just right.

The weather was mostly OK and at times delightful.

It looks (pending finalisation) as if the costs have worked out exactly right. We had some costs not anticipated, but also some savings unanticipated.

Roll on the next one!


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Girl Friday
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:57 PM

I looked at the sunshine this morning and thought of you packing up for home. Glad the weather was fair for you and everything worked out well costwise.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 01:22 PM

Everything worked out absolutely excellent cost wise.
A excellent event and the weather was good. I think the event dates should not change?

Keeping this event to June and September is a must other months should be ruled out because of clashing with other events. It was great to see folk I have not seen for ages and good to see Newbies who have never been before and who voiced to me how they throughly enjoyed themselves and with out doubt will be coming again in June 2012.

This is a different event to Pigears and sweeps whereby time tables rule the event.
Knockholt is simple Its because of this very reason the communal side of Knockholt and the gathering of folk around a simple fire with no over amenities then two bogs and a Marquee for bad weather that make the event so unique.

I favor this event to all the others that I attend and that includes folk clubs sweep Pigears and pub gatherings. although I will continue to support my clubs and attend other events they do not = Knockholt. Those FOLK who missed the event through illness hopefully your make it next June.

For those who opposed the raised costs then you simply missed a great event.
Your cutting your noises off to save a few quid.
Well done to all singers players dancers and poets and readers.

A superb Knocholt well done everyone.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 01:54 PM

And a special mention for the battlebread of Brian Bloodaxe, a remarkable feat!


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:07 PM

Thank you Richard.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 03:54 PM

I think it was 4 virgins, wasn't it? Dan's Dad, Gaynor, and Alan and Paul.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 05:26 PM

I think Dan's Dad been before.
Gaynor throughly enjoyed the event.

I found a Army Cap Badge in The Dead Tree Flint pit and they Identified it too be from the Royal Horse Artillery. Possibly WW1. It was covered in Thanet Sand but underneath it all it was quite polished so I think it was lost recently rather then years ago. (Who Knows) I will put a photo of it on FB.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 06:56 AM

Second money impressions (some final invoices still awaited) are of almost exact break-even, so I'd personally like to stick two fingers up at those who alleged "rip-off" etc.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: morning wood
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 07:09 AM

Had a great weekend and many thanks to the organisers and attendees that made it so. Wouldn't like to be there at the moment though with the wevva as it is!

Pete, I knew that cap badge was one of the artilleries but couldn't remember if it was RFA, RHA, RGA etc. Nice feature for your guitar headstock! It's sometimes suprising how good some metals come out the ground, particularly if out of the air in anaerobic conditions.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 07:13 AM

A propos, Pete, I picked your guitar - the Tanglewood 6 - up in the marquee on Sun AM and it has problems. It would not tune properly - but that may be down to knackered strings not intonation as such - and there was a nasty fretbuzz at about the 5th fret in the middle of the neck. I prescribe a visit to Dr Rodgers...


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Essex Girl
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 07:57 AM

I'm glad the weather was Ok for you. Sorry we couldn't make it this year but we had other bookings on Friday and Sunday afternoon, but June is already in the diary.
Linda


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 09:28 AM

What a great Knockholt! Mick and I had a wonderful time, there were so many highlights – Jim surpassing himself Saturday night with his hilarious rendition of "Lean forwards, lean backwards, to the left and the right".... with lots of rude bits in between, the food at the feast which was really extra special,Royston and Richard's harmonies, Ann's shorts! Pierre's sudden back flip from his camp chair, Grandson Louis bonding with a herd of cows, Dave kenningham telepathically calling us to Orpington to rescue him and Zahirah who were stranded there and the unexpected arrival on Saturday night of Capella - my brother Tony and (soon to be) sister-in-law Lesley which was most fitting for our 18th anniversary year as it was Tony who discovered the field about 24 years ago and lit the very first knockholt fire.

As always it was great to see so many old friends as well as our 4 knockholt virgins – Zahirah, Gaynor, Alan and Paul. We're looking forward to the next camp already.


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Subject: RE: Knockholt September 2011
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 10:38 AM

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