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Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)

GUEST,Bluesman 23 Jul 11 - 12:51 PM
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Subject: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:51 PM

Sad news, Amy has just been found dead, heavy week on drugs I am told. She had a great talent.
RIP


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:56 PM

Bummer...

B~


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: olddude
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:57 PM

Oh that is sad indeed a very talented young lady ... gosh .. when will they ever learn huh ...


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:02 PM

Blimey - Talent gone to waste yet again. Harks back to the 60s and 70s when we had a whole spate of them. I was devastated when I heard the news about both Hendrix and Sandy Denny. I didn't think that another would bother me to much but Ms Winehouse, for all her faults, was a very talented lady.

Sad to read that her Father did not yet know when the story broke - He was on a plane on his way to a Jazz festival. Poor bloke.

Commiserations to him and all the family.

DtG


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:04 PM

Blimey, that is really sad. She was so talented. RIP Amy. It's such a shame that she had to resort to the drugs. She needed a lot of support, but at the end of the day, she was in charge of herself.

Drug dealers have a lot to answer for.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:06 PM

I gotta say it.

She shoulda gone to rehab.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:09 PM

I was so shocked to hear this news. Amy Winehouse was so talented and I loved her music. This is so sad.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:12 PM

Well done, Jack - Got ot out of the way and made me laugh anyway :-)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:16 PM

Shocked but not surprised sums it up best. I don't follow her music but it was hard to miss her activities in the news.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Wesley S
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:19 PM

Amy Winehouse, the beehived soul-jazz diva whose self-destructive habits overshadowed a distinctive musical talent, was found dead Saturday in her London home, police said. She was 27.

Winehouse shot to fame with the album "Back to Black," whose blend of jazz, soul, rock and classic pop was a global hit. It won five Grammys and made Winehouse — with her black beehive hairdo and old-fashioned sailor tattoos — one of music's most recognizable stars.

Police confirmed that a 27-year-old female was pronounced dead at the home in Camden Square northern London; the cause of death was not immediately known. London Ambulance Services said Winehouse had died before the two ambulance crews it sent arrived at the scene.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:28 PM

An object lesson for those who would emulate her, but will they learn from it?
Probably not!
There are 90+ people who died in Norway yesterday, far more deserving of out sympathy, and condolences.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: goatfell
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:32 PM

? so what about the people in Norway eh? it sad that she is deadbut what about norway and their dead


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:38 PM

I agree about the people in Norway, but that is a seperate thread, or should be. This thread is about a musician called Amy Winehouse.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:38 PM

She was in the Koko nightclub on Wednesday and Thursday nights, was completely out of her head, hasn't been since Friday morning. She was very troubled and so called friends were nothing more than hangers on. She did try to go level several times, but the deadheads arounds saw no mileage in that for their sad lives.

I agree goatfell, those poor families in Norway are in all our thoughts, but that was the actions of a madman. It has nothing to do with her death.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:40 PM

Errrr - Just what is the point of spoiling someones obit by saying that others are somehow more deserving. Those poor innocents in Norway are do warrant our deepest sympathies but why bring them up here?

Start your own thread on the Norwegian tradgedy if you like but I honestly believe there is no mileage in bringing it up to detract from Amy's death.

Is there?

D


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:44 PM

Such a shame. She was too weak to resist the leeches who pushed her towards celeb status too fast just to suck her dry, the jackals who bit at yher heels every step and that hyena that turned her on to crack and heroin. She had one hell of a voice, but all the rest of it was too much-too soon.

Record industry moguls, promoters, celebrity hacks, Fielder-Civil, I hope your sleep is full of nightmares for what you destroyed.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:46 PM

She's responsible for her own life and death--the latter, by the way, being no particular shock to me


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:48 PM

Agree with you whole heartedly George.

How terrible for her parents.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: paula t
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:50 PM

Very sad news indeed.Such a wonderful,raw talent. Any loss of a young life is a tragedy. No matter what the circumstances.My thoughts go out to her parents.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:51 PM

...or to anyone else, josepp. Yes, we are all responsible for our own life and death. But we are not islands - if we drive others towards the cliff we are responsible for their death too.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:53 PM

An object lesson for those who would emulate her, but will they learn from it?
Probably not!
There are 90+ people who died in Norway yesterday, far more deserving of out sympathy, and condolences. <<

I hope Winehouse becomes an object lesson for people who refuse rehab. That is what she is famous for.

The people in Norway are deserving of our sympathy and condolences. So is Miss Winehouse and her family and fans. I am sure we have enough sympathy and condolences for both.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:57 PM

Hi

Sad news indeed - but I suppose it is not a surprise. By no means a fan of Amy or her music but I believe she had much to offer if she had been properly managed and handled.

I feel for her parents and family.....sad sad news indeed.

Mikel2


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:00 PM

Anyone with the problems Amy Winehouse had is deserving of sympathy ..... there but for the grace of God ........

I feel so sorry for her family and so sad for her.

She was a wonderful and interesting performer; she had a great talent.

Here she is singing a song I love:

Back To Black


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:04 PM

Jack,
My son has been in and out of rehab 6 times - each time ready to go thru life drug free. It rarely works. Eighteen years later, he is still an addict and a danger to himself and everyone who comes in contact with him.
Now let the woman rest in peace. She chose her way. She has paid a sad price.
RIP
SINS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Arkie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:12 PM

This is indeed tragic. Double so because she was a troubled soul and a gifted artist. I had an album on my computer because I wanted to hear her. I finally deleted the album because of the awful racket that was going on while she was singing. She did have a fine almost mystical voice and wrote some good songs which might be around for a while.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:13 PM

Amy had nothing to do with Norway, believe me, yesterday she would have been unaware who she was, let alone know what was happening elsewhere in the world.

Yes she took drugs, yes she drank, made a fool out of herself, yes she smoked, are you perfect ?? She was also once a beautiful child loved by her family, yes it is possible she took her own life directly or indirectly. She brought happiness to those of us who loved her voice. Come on, respect her, respect her family and leave the souls of Norway out of this please.

Norway has crippled many of us today, young people starting out in life, families left with mums and dad's. Amy's death and those events are poles apart. Please respect that.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: skipy
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:15 PM

Sad event, Yes, but Norway is 10,000 times worse.
Skipy
RIP all.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Tootler
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:32 PM

Sad waste of a young life. Yes she had talent even if her style was not my taste. I feel for her parents who have tried their best without success.

No, Norway is not 10,000 times worse. Why do you have to make such odious comparisons? Both events are tragic in their own way and to those directly involved, the grief they feel is just as great.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:33 PM

She chose it. It's always a choice, and a person can choose many times, as long as they're still around. Sometimes it takes one try, and sometimes it takes 20. I feel worse for her loved ones who probably kept hoping she'd make a different choice.

She is out of it all. They will carry it through their lives.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:35 PM

Drug addiction, alcoholism etc are terribly difficult to understand, and even harder to overcome. I have seen prisoners who are addicts, they were totally in the grip of their drugs. I don't think they could have stopped themselves, no matter how much they wanted to. I'm truly very sorry for this talented young woman. 27, world-famous and yet her life is now over. Her father, particularly, tried to help her, but addiction is notoriously hard to 'cure'. Let's not judge in any way. R.I.P.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:38 PM

I think it's utterly distasteful to rate one death as worse over another. There's no difference to the people who mourn their loss.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: DebC
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:40 PM

I lost a brother to drug addiction. It's so hard to watch a loved one self-destruct knowing that you have done all that you can do. In the end the only thing you can do is let the person know that you love them.

I don't know about Ms. Winehouse except for the snippets I'd see in the press.

I am sorry for tragic death everywhere.

Debra Cowan


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: skipy
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:41 PM

Please yourself, 1 was a suicide, the others where a slaughter
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:43 PM

There are 90+ people who died in Norway yesterday, far more deserving of out [sic] sympathy, and condolences.

That is a rhetorically stinky way to argue about the value of any life.

No one deserves to die an ugly, painful, or violent early death.

From the reactions, it seems that Winehouse had a true talent and was something I perhaps should have paid attention to. Alas, too late, and she way way too young to be silenced.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:48 PM

I am not fit to judge the lives of others who smoke, drink or use drugs, are you ? Is your lungs and liver in good shape ?

Please stop comparing the murders in Norway with the death of Amy. They have nothing in common. Thanks for that.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:50 PM

So sad, and a terrible waste.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Zen
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:54 PM

RIP Amy. Another talent sadly lost.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: I don't know
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:54 PM

May she now R.I.P. A trouble girl at peace I hope. condolances to the family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,wot?
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:55 PM

You're all assuming that Amy died from an overdose. Wait for the fucking inquest, please!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:56 PM

Agreed, Bluesman. The only thing in common is that they happened about the same time.

I find something a bit pathetic about people who have to establish a league table as to which sad incident is sadder than which other one. The reductio ad absurdum of that is to say that after the Holocaust nothing matters: I have heard it said. But it is an anti-life, negative world view.

Sympathy enough in my heart to feel sorrow and distress for the Norwegian victims and for the lovely but troubled Amy Winehouse. Why should I, or anyone else, try to evaluate these sympathies? Where can I buy the sensitive chemical balance to weigh them up?

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:10 PM

I listened to her duetting with Tony Bennett - who was full of praise and affection for her - on the radio last night. What a waste of a talent. When I first heard her she seemed like a breath of fresh air.
RIP Amy.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:14 PM

Very sad...what a waste


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:29 PM

This is the song that made her famous.
She should have listened to her father.
She should have gone. She should have tried.
This song should not be an excuse for other young people not to try.

Rehab
Amy Winehouse



They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"
Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know, know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab, I won't go, go, go

I'd rather be at home with Ray
I ain't got seventeen days
'Cause there's nothing, there's nothing you can teach me
That I can't learn from Mr. Hathaway

I didn't get a lot in class
But I know we don't come in a shot glass

They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"
Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab, I won't go, go, go

The man said, "Why do you think you here?"
( From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/a/amy-winehouse-lyrics/rehab-lyrics.html )
I said, "I got no idea"
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
So I always keep a bottle near

He said, "I just think you're depressed
Kiss me, yeah baby and go rest"

They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"
Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know, know

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just, ooh, I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
Have everyone think I'm on the mend

And it's not just my pride
It's just 'til these tears have dried

They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"
Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know, know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab, I won't go, go, go


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:34 PM

I merely pointed out the difference between voluntary, and involuntary!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:45 PM

Very sad news ..... we lost a great talent today.

My deepest sympathies go out to her family.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:46 PM

Saw Amy a couple of years ago at V Festival in Stafford. She sang brilliantly but looked frail, lonely and forlorn and scared to death. I don't know what demons haunted her but guess they were similar to those that ultimately killed my brother who was a very talented musician with the same dependencies as Amy. Sadly I lost two brothers relatively close together, one was an alcoholic and drug addict, the other a successful family man. I loved them both, I miss them both in equal measure.

Not sure why Amy's death is being linked to the tragedy in Norway apart from the fact that deaths involved, each circumstance is deserving of our sensitivity and sympathy.

Frank


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:50 PM

The Amy I Knew by Dean Piper

Amy's talent was so huge it is completely incomprehensible to believe that we've lost this voice. When she sang you stopped, looked and listened. She's was truly magnificent. Raw, attention grabbing and full of emotion.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 03:51 PM

well said Mike


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 04:12 PM

I've known too many musicians in my life to feel sorry for one like Amy Winehouse. They jump into stuff that I told them to investigate first and they didn't listen. The result is that they're dead and I'm not. I was in a band where a big fan of ours was also a cokehead. He supplied us with all the coke we wanted for free. He would call us over to his house to do coke with him--absolutely free. I took a look at my guitarist and I thought, "He'll let this asshole ruin his life and I have no intention of becoming a cokehead." I stopped talking to the guy--period. I stopped having anything to do with him. When my guitarist wanted to know why, I told him, "Because he's ruining himself on that crap and he'll ruin you too if you let him." I didn't try to talk him out of hanging out with the guy because it wouldn't do any good. I told him what I thought and he could act as he saw fit. After a couple more months he admitted he had to stop hanging out with the guy because he was getting hooked on that crap. But he had that personality like Winehouse and a few years later ended up a delerious alcoholic in the hospital anyway.

Some people have no sense. You have to police yourself. If you can't, well, I guess that's too bad. I've met too many people with these addictive personalities and I'm sick of it. If you're killing yourself and you know you're killing yourself then I don't have time to waste crying crocodile tears over you. Maybe you could be considerate enough not to put those that love you through this misery. I don't want to hear about your personal bullshit demons. We all have them--what makes yours so much more important than mine that you have to go killing yourself over it and make me miserable at your death? Get a fucking grip.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 04:20 PM

But josepp, the whole point is that they just can't 'get a grip'. They would if they could. They're helpless in the face of the addiction. It's easy for you to step back from these things because you're lucky enough to have the kind of personality that takes control of your life. But others haven't got this in them. It isn't deliberate, they would probably give anything to be able to change. I've worked with addicts in prison, and I've seen how powerless they were to stop. I agree they wreck families and cause grief to their parents etc. But we can't judge them, as they can't help it.


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