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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:15 AM

Read what he has written.

He is a bigot who voices his hate. I've read six of his articles thus far. I see promotion of Israel and hatred of all Muslims, no mention of God or Christ, no hint of Christian values.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:20 AM

"Norway killer a fundamentalist Christian
Norwegian police say the 32 year-old who gunned down at least 84 youths attending a camp is a right-wing Christian"

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=149068


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:29 AM

Hate manifests itself in humans of all relgious beliefs.

the same can be said for the madness of revenge and the hypocrisy of finger pointing.

I'm am sickened and repulsed at it all.

can we ever find peace?

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:36 AM

I read a bit more. He has some odd opinions on science and history that he seems to have a need to express. Such as "Why Asians didn't invent space travel." He often berates Western governments for not doing enough about the "Muslim threat." "Muslim" immigration seems to be a main concern. But he doesn't like Mexicans either.

He may or may not be a fundamentalist Christian, but that is certainly not the direction of his writing of the websites he wrote for.

He also wrote an article about "Terrorist" groupies. No doubt he is a psychopath but it is hard to deny that the attacks were in response to what he believed was excessive tolerance of Islam.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:43 AM

I believe that Number 6 is right.

But I look a 1.5 billion Muslims, all but a small few are peaceful. I look at the about the same number of Christians and most or them are peaceful too.

I think to understand this man, to understand this motivation, we must look at the hate he expresses and how he expresses it.

I think the security forces of the West will be taking a closer look at a lot of right wing bloggers and posters to Zionist blogs.

Perhaps the myth that Muslims have some special kind of hate that "Christians" and "Jews" do not will finally be put to rest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:45 AM

So appalling it's hard to express. Makes me think of many youth conferences I went to--the beautiful tiny island location made it a death trap for this politically motivated psycho. I am still thinking there must have been more than one shooter (consider how the death toll suddenly, dramatically rose last night as more bodies were discovered), which news reports have only hinted at.

Don't forget, early news reports about a crisis like this are notoriously inaccurate--and not just the first hours, often the inaccuracies continue for days once they're fed into the media amplifier. Eyewitness accounts are important but not often inaccurate as well--we as a species are not good at dispassionate observation of confusing and terrifying events.

My guess is the "Helpers of Jihad" which claimed to have launched the attack are none other than Anders Breivik and his accomplices. Just an early disinformation component of their plan, both a red herring and an attempt to provoke action against Muslims.

Terrorizing the next generation of moderate liberals and their parents--who will think twice about the next time their kids are invited to a political event. This is so very disgusting.

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 09:05 AM

No death penalty in Norway and the maximum possible prison sentence to impose is 20 years. He can however be classified as a danger to society and held under review and that could possibly mean that he will never be released.

The "immigrant muslim community" of Oslo amounts to 25% of the population and right from the start of reporting this incident the authorities were a pains to recommend restraint until facts were known. The fact that the shootings were being carried out by a native Norwegian was very quick in being released.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 09:07 AM

Teribus, Are you saying that 25% of the people in Oslo are Muslim immigrants?


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 09:19 AM

Wikipedia: (Total population is approx 5 million)

Among non-Christian religions, Islam is the largest with the population of about 150,000.[114] It is practiced mainly by Somali, Arab, Albanian, and Turkish immigrants, as well as Norwegians of Pakistani descent.

The article also notes that although the Church of Norway is the official state religion which includes 79% of the population, Norwegians are among the least religiously adherent people in the world, 20% consider their religious faith important to them and under 5% attend church weekly.

Even under present circumstances, I think I could enjoy spending some time there...
W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 09:53 AM

The Man Who Believes He Is Right


The shock and denial of the waiting parents is hell incarnate, waiting for word of their child as police stand before a curtain.

They already know that the odds of thier child being murdered or gravely injured is not 1 in 4 but virtually certain.

The pain and guilt is unbearable. If only I... What if I... Why?
Who? What if they...What if you.. What if I... and they break down and cry.

The opinions of all of us turn to anger. We yelled the killer is Muslim, no the killer is Jewish, no the killer is Christian, no the killer is right wing extremist. And we are lost, bickering among ourselves.

With all the reflection of research with science and religious study, justice will never satisfy; we fall into a loneliness and depression, and feel we can no longer cry.

His guns can light up the world. When he shoots he does not feel powerless. Still he feels every insult that's hurled. He thinks he has everything to gain if you could feel his pain and that is why he is so dangerous.

We will point to patterns of hate and we'll try to accept our fate but no one or thing will change the fight of the bestial proud predator in the man who believes he is Right.






Don Hakman 7, 2011


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 09:59 AM

Jerusalem post 7/18/2011


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:09 AM

Thanks for posting that link Jack. Potentially ties a lot of threads together.

For those who didn't look, it is an article describing Norwegian government support for the impending introduction to the UN of a proposal for a Palestinian state.

Like the Norwegian government, (which has and/or is participating in military actions in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq), nothing particularly radical.

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Lox
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:12 AM

Can someone please explain how Moslems and Islam are relevant to this discussion?

Any factual connection would be appreciated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:19 AM

Sure lox.

It seems clear to me that his motivation was hatred of Islam. He was punishing the Labor government for not taking up the fight.
The killer wrote this...

Hagen said that if Israel loses in the Middle East, Europe will succumb to Islam next. He felt that Christians should support Israel and oppose Islamic inroads into Europe. In an unprecedented step, a group of Muslim ambassadors to Norway blasted Carl I. Hagen in a letter to the newspaper Aftenposten, claiming that he had offended 1.3 billion Muslims around the world. Other Norwegian politicians quickly caved in and condemned Hagen. Maybe Norway, "the country of peace" and home to the Nobel Peace Prize, will get along just fine with Islam, "the religion of peace."

Although some political leaders such as Mr. Carl I. Hagen have a clear understanding of what's going on, they are unfortunately few and far between. Most European media commentators are hostile to the Jewish state of Israel, partly because they get angry with anybody defending themselves against Islamic Jihad instead of surrendering, and partly because they want to project their own feelings of guilt from the Holocaust onto Israel by recasting the Jews as villains and the Palestinians as victims.

French filmmaker Pierre Rehov made the film Suicide Killers where he interviewed the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. He warns that we are facing "a neurosis at the level of an entire civilization," a "culture of hatred in which the uneducated are brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God. I hear a mother saying 'Thank God, my son is dead.' Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize. [...] They don't see the innocent being killed, they only see the impure that they have to destroy."

Rehov believes that we are dealing with "a new form of Nazism" that it is going to spread to Europe and the United States, too.

Spanish journalist Sebastian Villar Rodriguez claims that Europe died in Auschwitz: "We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims!" Yet in 2007, Ciempozuelos, a small Madrid suburb, refused to commemorate Holocaust Day and opted instead to commemorate the 'Day of Palestinian Genocide.' In Britain following Muslim pressure, the Bolton Council scrapped its Holocaust Memorial Day event. The Muslim Council of Britain asked for a Genocide Day to protest the Israeli "genocide" against the Palestinians. The secretary-general of the MCB, Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, has earlier compared the situation of Muslims in Britain to Jews under Hitler.

We thus have the absurd situation where the Nazis of today are presented as Jews while the Jews are presented as Nazis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:19 AM

It doesn't matter one whit if he's a run-of-the-mill psycho or a fundamentalist Christian follower of Odin.

Well over 80 children are dead and 7 more are dead in Osolo. How many are physically wounded isn't yet reported. How many are mentally wounded, well, what's the population of Norway?

Every kid and adult who was on that island should be in counseling right now, because PTSD has already set in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:19 AM

Through the idea of extremists who kill people to prove their point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:23 AM

Lox, it seems that Breivik holds strongly anti-Muslim views, which (even though Norway has recently been in NATO military actions against certain Muslim factions) he feels the governing party of Norway does not support, in particular vis-a-vis the question of Palestinian statehood, and probably Norway's immigration policies (I'm guessing on that one).

But your point is well taken. There is no apparent involvement of Muslims in these terorist events, either as attackers or victims. As I mentioned, I believe the hitherto-unknown "Helpers of Jihad" group is a fabrication of Breivik and his cronies.

W-P


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:26 AM

Norwegian news from Thursday

This is certainly an indication that the attack was not an Islamic Jihad.

Quite the opposite, I would think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Lox
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:41 AM

Thank you Jack.

You have presented us with some interesting viewpoints on the subject of your opinion of the Israel/Palestine question and on your opinion about the motivations of people who sympathize with Palestinians.

All very interesting.

However, my interest is in the recent atrocities in Norway, which is the reason why I am posting to this thread.

I noted lots of comments about Moslems.

I would like to know how Moslems are supposed to be connected to the Atrocities in Norway.

So far nobody has provided a connection, except that the Tall Blonde Norwegian guy who was caught, allegedly hates Moslems.


ie - we have a wacko Islamophobe venting his hatred on kids.



So I'll repeat - why are we discussing Moslems? When on this issue, we should be worrying about Islamophobia?


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Lox
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:50 AM

Sorry Jack,

I appear to have made a mistake in responding to your post.

This is because it isn't clear how much of what was written was taken from the killer, or if any of it was added by you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:51 AM

"we should be worrying about Islamophobia"

I am discussing hatred of Muslims and support of Zionism as the likely motivation for the crimes. I am sorry that I do not know how to do that in a way that pleases you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:52 AM

Earlier in the tread I posted a link to the man's writings. If you read that, I think that you will see where I am coming from.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Lox
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:00 AM

Have done so Jack,

Position clarified :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:00 AM

Yes I read a number of his blogs, which is why I wrote the lyrics which apply to me, you and him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:03 AM

I was asked a question:

"Are you saying that 25% of the people in Oslo are Muslim immigrants?2

Something like that, I know that about 14 years ago it was just below 20% and initial commentators when asked to speculate mentioned the 25% figure. Oslo is the largest centre of population in Norway with about 600,000 people but they are very spread out (Oslo holds two characteristics as a Capital City it has one of the smallest populations but in terms of size and area is one of the largest in Europe)


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:21 AM

According to the CIA fact book 1.8 % of Norway is Muslim.

1.8% of a total population of 5 million is about 90,000

25% of 600,000 is 150,000. So even if every Muslim in Norway was an immigrant and they all lived Oslo, you would be off by more than a third.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: bobad
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:50 AM

Jack is telling us that it is his support of Zionism that motivated him to commit this atrocity. By implication he is saying that this is the type of thing that supporters of Zionism are disposed to doing. What proof does he have of this? It can just as easily be said that he was motivated by his belief in Christianity or his support of a right wing ideology. I think this tells us more about Jack than the perpetrator.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:53 AM

OK Jack as long as you are happy, I mean WTF would the guy being interviewed know, he has after all only lived and worked in Norway all his life most likely born and brought up in Oslo. - You tell it like it is Jack.

CIA Fact Book if I used that as a reference in any of our discussions you'd laugh me off the planet.

CIA Fact Book will be how far out of date?

CIA Fact will only detail and mirror official figures handed them by the Norwegian Government, any illegal, unregistered aliens where you live Jack? Here in the UK we do not have the foggiest notion of how many illegal aliens are within our borders.

1.8% Muslim only known IF THEY HAVE REGISTERED THEIR RELIGION

Your CIA FACT BOOK only has an estimated population for 2010

My biggest concern at the moment is keeping in touch with a friend whose daughter and friend were on the island.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:58 AM

Teribus, I used CIA fact book, because I thought it would be a source you would respect.

When you have something more concrete than "I heard some guy say it on the Radio" I'll listen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:06 PM

>>Jack is telling us that it is his support of Zionism that motivated him to commit this atrocity. By implication he is saying that this is the type of thing that supporters of Zionism are disposed to doing. What proof does he have of this? It can just as easily be said that he was motivated by his belief in Christianity or his support of a right wing ideology. I think this tells us more about Jack than the perpetrator. <<

I am implying no such thing. I am talking about this man's motivations. If you can point to one place where I implicated Zionist in general please point it out.

I think this tells us more about Bobad than we would like to know. And it saddens me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: bobad
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:10 PM

"If you can point to one place where I implicated Zionist in general please point it out."

Ha, ha....I was waiting for that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:12 PM

Then obviously you are ready.

Point it out.

The implication was an but an inference. It is in your head only.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: bobad
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:45 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:50 PM

When I first saw the photos of the bombing and heard all of this, I thought it was like Tim McVeigh and David Koresh rolled into one. I deleted it out of an earlier post because it seemed to soon to give any characterization, but it still feels like a germane reading of the events. I wonder how much of what happened there was influenced by homegrown terror activities like we had in the US?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: bobad
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:50 PM

Can't pass up any opportunity for a little Jew bashing, can we Jack?
Oh, I know it's not the Jews, it's the State of Israel or it's the government of Israel or it's Zionism, right...nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Of all the possible causes this deluded individual had for his actions you have declared it to be his support of Zionism.

You have an obsession Jack.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:52 PM

You said that I implied something on this thread. Back it up or reveal yourself to be a liar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:28 PM

There are many broken people in the world, historically and currently.

Some one said in early post "amorphous enemy." That enemy is every broken person, bred from ignorance and fed on fear and hate.

Sadly the media does play a part in the broken person's ideologies and actions.

I am more inclined to atheism now, but I still think the idea and example of Christ is right. Just as the idea and example of Allah is right. It is the broken person's misapplication that is the problem.

So what is the cure? I take my cue from deities in which I do not believe. Love and forgiveness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: GUEST,Wolfgang momentarily without cookie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:32 PM

7.5 % Muslims living in Oslo county (source: Wikipedia with links to Norwegian statistics office). The percentage in Oslo town is likely to be higher.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:42 PM

According to an article I just read, the most he can receive for this crime is 21 years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: mayomick
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:44 PM

A day before the atrocity on the island of Utoya , Labour Youth delegates at the summer camp had held a Palestine solidarity event there.


http://mondoweiss.net/2011/07/the-norway-massacre-and-the-nexus-of-islamophobia-and-right-wing-zionism.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:58 PM

One of the pictures released of Breivik shows him wearing an odd outfit with blue-and-white sash and apron, vaguely Masonic in style (but not elaborate enough to actually be Masonic).

That must be the insignia of some organization. Anybody know what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:03 PM

Thank you Mayomick.

Mr. Weiss in that article has said what I have been trying to say. He is a lot more eloquent on that topic than I. And since he is a Jew, and NOT a Zionist, perhaps he is a source that Bobad will more readily accept.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:04 PM

A lot of conspiracy sights are saying that he is a mason. The masons I know are good people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 02:28 PM

My prayers are with the families of those lost in both attacks. Also with the survivors who will relive the day sometimes when they least expect it.
Such a tragedy.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: GUEST,Wolfgang momentarily without cookie
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 04:21 PM


Here are some of the writings of the killer. A hater of Muslims A lover of Zionism
(JtS)

According to the information in the German news this statement is wrong. B. has quoted some of these writings approvingly but isn't the author.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 04:38 PM

Are you saying he is not Fjordman?


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:22 PM

He may have been anti-moslem but he attacked liberals, and he went after their children. Old school, that.

Thanks for the bullet point info!

Man alive. Those poor, poor families. That poor King and on down who will feel responsible when there was nothing to be done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:22 PM

There seems to be far too much material linked to by "Fjordman" for it all to have one author.

The BBC just said his Facebook page used to list his interests as bodybuilding and Freemasonry, so the regalia probably were Masonic after all.

The Beeb also says Facebook took his page down. I wonder if they've shredded his friend list as well.

The BBC's coverage this evening was some of the most disgusting stuff I've ever heard them come out with. Dredging up right-wing ideologues to say that Norway needs to impose immigration controls to stop this happening again. I didn't hear the media saying the US ought to have just given Al-Queda whatever they wanted after 9/11, did you? But when a blonde Nazi perpetrates a massacre, they blame the victims.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:41 PM

"There seems to be far too much material linked to by "Fjordman" for it all to have one author."

What i linked to is supposed to be all of his stuff, just a few pieces a year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Oslo Bombing and Shooting at Youth Camp
From: Little Robyn
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 07:13 PM

I believe one of the missing is a Kiwi girl who has dual citizenship.
The kids were not only from all over Norway but all over the world.
One angry, misguided individual can harm so many innocents.
Robyn


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