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What was Lee Hays really like...? (1914-1981)

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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: BrooklynJay
Date: 06 Sep 16 - 08:54 PM

Once again it's time to refresh this fascinating thread. Sad, too, because so many of the participants have left us.

But it's definitely a must-read. One of Mudcat's best ever.


Jay


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST,banjopicker
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:12 PM

I know this a thread about Lee Hays and I dont want to get off topic maybe I should have started a new thread and I dont even know if Frank Hamilton is still posting here in the forum anyways getting to my point of this post. We all got some great stories about Lee but what I want to know is what what Fred Hellerman like. I dont know the guy and from what I seen in a few videos is he seems like a great guy but also I noticed that he gave off the impression that he could be very difficult as well. Like for instance when Ronnie did the Holly Near song at the 1980 re-union also I heard a story about when they performed at the clear water festival I think it was and Lee said it was okay for the radio station to record it ( or something like that) and Fred was very against it and got very upset.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST,banjopicker
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 02:08 PM

I read bits and parts of Lonesome traveler and will be getting the whole copy soon. The parts I did manage to read though told me that Lee had a very hard past from his child hood . He saw things that no kid or person should see when he was very young child.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 25 May 11 - 12:40 PM

Frank said the book left a lot out. And I'm forced to agree. Lee Hays was a fascinating figure in the history of the folk revival.

Pete Seeger does so well to interract with these modern folksingers. The battles he and Lee fought with each other, and the victories they enjoyed together - well its damn well intriguing -they were so far removed from today, and yet the struggles of artists to make their own unique contribution is timeless.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: BrooklynJay
Date: 17 May 11 - 11:02 AM

About time this thread was refreshed.

Incredible reading, if I do say so!

Jay


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:42 PM

And here is this thread for the edification of the person asking about Bascom Lamar Lunsford and Frank Hamilton and Jack Elliott & Billy Faier and Pete S. etc. -- and the political differences between the participants.

Still it's not the thread with Frank speaking about Lunsford's festival and what went down back then, but we're getting closer...

Art


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Jan 07 - 09:12 PM

Fantastic thread - very interesting.


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From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Jan 07 - 08:15 AM

fascinating


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 08:58 AM

Refresh!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: emjay
Date: 17 May 06 - 03:58 PM

It is time to refresh this one of the best of Mudcat threads.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 02:35 PM

Like all of you, I have been fasinated by this thread. The fact that I've met some of the major respondants makes it even more wonderful. I hope that this thread continues. It deserves to be brought back every year or so, so that new members can benefit from the comments of all these wonderful folk.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: thespionage
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:16 PM

I had no idea that Frank Hamilton was on Mudcat. I feel honored.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: pdq
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 09:58 PM

refresh for Art...


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 02:12 PM

I'm still off line but today I got to our library.

Great to see this good old thread once again...

Art


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM

Thanks for refreshing. Fascinating to read about one of my longtime heroes--Well, actually several of them. I found the book, Lonesome Traveler, on the sale table at a local bookstore for $1, and felt like I had uncovered buried treasure. It is a treasure, and better, because I still have the book and read and reread it.
My sister bought her first Holly Near album because Holly wrote about Ronnie Gilbert in her notes on the back of the album, that Ronnie was a woman who really knew how to sing. Later she said she hadn't even known when she wrote that that Gilbert was still alive.
Every voice in every incarnation was wonderful, I never heard them in person--Art Thieme, you should brag!--but I watch the video "Wasn't That a Time" over and over. Someone taped it for me before I even had a VCR.
MJ


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 05:57 PM

Lawrence,

Tell your stories -- please!


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Lawrence Lazare
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 03:04 PM

I stumbled acorss this bbs and this thread and it's fascinating to read. It's also interesting that the thread was active from 1999 to 2003.

I was fortunate enough to live with Lee when I was a teenager, and I didn't know if this thread was still active and anyone would be interesting in hearing some stories of life with Lee during the mid 70's

-Lawrence Lazare


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 05:09 PM

Did I mention that, somehow, I managed to get to concerts by every one of the four incarnations of the Weavers? If I sound proud o' that, it's 'cause I am. ;-)

Art


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:54 PM

Although I only saw him from the stage, I felt such a kinship with the guy......kinda that 'outsider' thing. I've enjoyed this thread so much.

So......Frank, my question about the Harmonica?

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Benjamin
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:07 PM

Thanks for refreshing this thread, it's hard to believe that I missed it twice since I've been here.
Frank, I've always believed that ones musicianship is made up largely from his or her experiences. The first memory I have of listening to a record was the Reunion at Carnigee (part 2). The Weavers have been a huge influence on how I hear and interpret music in general. Also, I'd like to thank you, as well as Rick, Art, and Sandy for sharing all the stories and such. I've never found such an informative thread anywhere, but I guess that's just how important Lee Hays really was.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: BH
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 07:17 PM

I would just like to add here that I wrote a note to him after the final reunion concert at Carnegie Hall. Expressing my deep felt feelings about him and the group---and his wonderful presence there. He replied in the most wonderful way with a very touching personal note. I was truly moved.
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Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Hippie Chick
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 03:13 PM

I read the bio by Doris Willens(sp?). I cried every chapter. I wish I could have known him.

HC


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Steve-o
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 01:26 PM

When someone records the "Best of the Mudcat Threads" this one's at the top of the pile! Thanks to all of you for the wonderful stories and personal memories. Being a So. Cal. kid, and a child of the "folk boom" years, I've only read about this stuff- never got it straight from the "horse's mouth". My only connection in this crowd is that I took "American Folk Music" at Cal State Northridge from an amazing lady named Bess Hawes. I fell in love with her, and the stuff she taught truly changed my musical life. Soppin' it up here, Boss!!


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 08:58 PM

Keep this going!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 08:14 PM

What a lovely surprise to find this thread I began so long ago (it seems). I just came here directly from the 'folk police' thread

'Nuf said (for once).

Art


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 05:04 PM

Thanks for that last bit, Frank. Hope this thread goes on for a while.

Technical question: On "Gotta Travel On" (before your time with the band) there's some "old style" harmonica playing. Any idea who might be doing it? Could be a studio player (or even Pete or Fred) or possibly Terry Gilkyson, who I believe was a part of that scene. The band never credited their bass players either....I assume that Spike Lee's dad Bill was on at least some of the records. I can be a tad detail minded about stuff like this, but it helps so much to fill in the complete picture.....Gawd I love that music! (Plus yer improvised blues on Nonesuch...betcha couldn't do it that way a second time! Ha ha!)

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Frankham
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 01:08 PM

Following up on this thread:

One of the things that Erik Darling and I talk about is how the Weavers were greater than the sum of their parts. It was an attitude toward music. An interest in revitalizing our love for traditional folk music of many cultures and countries and doing it in a particular way. Lee was so much a part of what that was. He thought of music in a simple, honest and direct way. He was a masterful showman. Lee's musical view was to reach the essence of a song without adorning it too much. Cisco and Woody were like that too. It was that the song was more important than the accompaniment, the personality or the trappings of the performance. Lee could always highlight and explain the song in a Will Rogers kinda' way with a funny story, a personal experience (he lived his music) and a relaxed hometown style onstage.

Lee loved Cisco and worked with him up to the time Cisco went back to Eagle Rock, (suburb of Los Angeles) to pass away. Jim Longhi's book is about the most definitive we have on who Cisco was. (Woody, Cisco and Me). Also, about Woody, too. Cisco had a stoic view of life in a way. He never received medical help for the tumor that he carried. Lee was upset about that.

But the Weavers represented a point of view (not just politically but musically) about how to perform folk music. They were in a way a family (sometimes dysfunctional but always creative) and it reflected their predeccessors, the Almanacs and the Priority Ramblers, Pete's involvement with various musical groups, Bess Lomax Hawes and her considerable knowledge about folk music (in my view equal to Alan's) and the strange mixture of Lubbock Texas, Arkansas, and New York influences. Ronnie, Freddie and Erik, New York. Pete and Bernie Krause (not sure about Bernie's background) New England and Woody, Oklahoma. There has been criticism that the Weaver's music was "citified". Not really. Lee was a southerner and his influence has to be credited with the Weaver's sound and point of view. The Weavers were more than the sum of it's parts.

Lee was a radicalized southerner of which there have been quite a few, such as Miles Horton, founder of the Highlander Folk School in Monteagle and later New Market Tennessee. I think this needs to be said because there is a view that the southern folk musician was fairly conservative in his/her political views. But that's not the whole picture. Sis Cunningham and Gordon Frieson were also southerners. (Founders of Broadside Magazine). Aunt Molly Jackson was southern.

Anyhow, Lee's viewpoint musically and politically was essential to the creation of the Weaver's music which influenced the Kingston Trio and every other folk group that hit the pop music industry.

I got into it because Erik recommended me. Pete knew me and Bess Lomax Hawes was a mentor to me. I knew Cisco and Woody because out in California, where I lived, it was a "folk family". My association with these people started as a teenager when Will Geer invited me over to his house in Santa Monica to meet the Weavers. (Lee wasn't there). Cisco and the others were. They were just getting blacklisted.

Lee was a private person. Never went to any of the parties on the road. Holed up in his hotel room most of the time. He was a very compassionate guy but depressed most of the time. Kind of a tragic figure in a way. But maybe that's where his humor came from. He was a loner although he cared about Alan Arkin and his family, Earl Robinson's as well and the people around him. He could be intensely critical of musicians and people also. He referred to me in Lessing's book(unfairly I think) as a Pete Seeger clone. I'm not but that's what I was hired to do with the Weavers. If we'd stuck it out I suspect the group would have changed musically.

Lee had little tolerance for pretensions of any sort. He was a down home guy with a Diner's Club card and rolled around in rented Cadillacs. He saw no need to deprive himself of the "finer things of life" because he sang folk songs. There was tension between Pete and Lee because Lee would have liked a little more popularity and Pete was uncompromising in his view that the Weavers should sing for unpopular causes. Lee tried his hand at writing radio commericials
for a time and mystery novels under a pseudonym. I think he would have liked to have been like Garrison Keilor (at least with the following the Prairie Home has) but it was the wrong time and the wrong environment for that.

Anyway, Lee was an important contributor to not only the Weavers but the folk music revival (folk scare or whatever) but a whole way of thinking and performing folk music. In a way he was kind of grand-dad to all of the folk groups that popped up in the Sixties.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: C-flat
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 03:27 AM

What a wonderful conversation to "eavesdrop" on! If I was sitting on the next table I would be on to my fouteenth coffee refill!
Thanks Mark for refreshing this old thread and letting some of us new boys enjoy it for the first time.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 01:35 AM

Refresh.

I just heard a recording of Jonathan Edwards doing "Seven Daffodils", which led me to try to find out who wrote it, which led me to this amazing thread. For some more on Frank Hamilton, see this page from the history of the Old Town School of Folk Music, and what looks to be his own page, here.

I also found this highly amusing review of Talking Union, by the Almanac Singers (including Pete Seeger, Lee Hays, Woody Guthrie, Josh White, and Bess Lomax Hawes). I love this part:

Musically the group do not live up to their social significance. The vocals, other than those of Josh White, are at best adequate and the lyrics, to present day ears, sound somewhat naive and a little obvious in their content. The harmonies are of the type heard in folk clubs, normally performed with one finger in the ear. Instrumentally the group are, generally speaking, competent but nothing more . There is the odd moment of greater interest - the banjo playing on "Washington Breakdown" is quite exciting in a Hillbilly style, but these instances are few and far between.
                               --Dick Stafford


Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 05:41 PM

Thanks for refreshing this as well. Don't know where I was in 1999 but it sure wasn't here.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 03:06 PM

Any have any doubts about the value of The Mudcat? Damn, Art, but I love this old pearl. I just reread it again for about the 75th time. You are a treasure, Sandy is a treasure, Rick, with his inquisitiveness due to being a real student of the music, as well as the personalities that lend it it's color......................Frank Hamilton, MAG.................this is truly passing it on.

I am forever in debt to all of you. And to Max as well. I have directed so many young folkies to this and other threads. It has more value than is describable. Everything from McCarthy to Gibson, and from angels to the darkside. Even a picking pattern. It just don't git no better'n this.

Mick


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: allanwill
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 10:14 AM

Thanks Art - absolutely fascinating.

Now I really MUST get back to work.

Allan


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Bert
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 03:32 AM

Thanks for refreshing this Art, I'm enjoying it all over again.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 10:39 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: John Kidder
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 05:32 AM

just a newbie here. what a wonderful conversation.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 07:14 PM

Mark, thanks for puuling this and the others back up.---Some of these threads are like meeting up with an old flame.

Art


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Deckman
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 11:55 PM

Here it is, September 7th, and I've just stumbled on this thread! WEE WOW! I can't begin to tell you how much I've enjoyed your banter ... tho I've just skimmed it. I will be in touch with all of you privately. Living out here on the West coast, it's too easy to feel the WE are the world! These conversations are what I enjoy so much. Just the casual talking and teasing between friends and companions ... it doesn't get any better than that! Is MUDCAT great, or what! Soy fiel a mi bida entera ... and CHEERS, Bob Nelson


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 07:56 PM

Geoff the Duck put me in a notion to refresh this.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:06 PM

Seeger be praised! I think I've got it. Now why did I want it? Oh yeah, if Frank wanted to send me the Studs stuff.

dummy


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 11:55 AM

Nope Barbara, but thanks to a couple of "angels in the night" named Jeri and Kat, I think I know how to do it now. But I'm still going to practice it on the test thread! Thanks anyway.

Rick


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Barbara
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:48 AM

Rick Fielding
Does that work?


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:26 AM

My apologies folks, I'm stickin' to banjo from now on.

Rick(humbled by the computer again)


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:14 AM

Oh, Now I get it! You have to use the blue clicky to put an e-mail in! Duuuuh! Like click


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:59 AM

Frank: I sent Rick your e-mail address this evening. He'll be in touch with you soon.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 11:10 PM

Mary Ann, Thanks so much. The history of that era is fascinating to a Canadian ear. Getting two or three points of view really paints a vivid picture. I so wish that I could share some of the Canadian situation at that time, but sadly none of the incidents or people involved would have any name recognition to other THAN Canadians.(and precious few of them) Believe me I've tried, but without charismatic and recognisable folks like Woody, Irwin, Studs, Barbara, Bob.G. etc. as characters in the stories, it's just not the same.

By the way, Frank, you were going to share something about Mr. Terkel with me. I had one astonishing afternoon with him, which I related in a personal message to "Frankham", but I'm not sure if you got it. My e-mail is if you'd like to send it to me. I'd love to read it.

Rick


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 08:03 PM

Rick, Barbara Dane was doing a concert at a club on Lincoln Avenue (Linclon Ave. and Clark St. is hwere the "Newtown" clubs were concentrated) -- had to be after 1970, 'cause that's when I moved to Chi-town, but before Holstein's opened in '76 - onthe corner, it was, across from the wonderful Army-Navy surplus store that used to be there (owned by some variety of leftie). Barbara was telling an anecdote about being on tour with Bob Newhart; she was his warmup act or something, and one of her set numbers was this blues thing about "My man's gonna hang." I mentioned it on the old Songs about Capital Punishment thread. She described the tour arriving in California, where C.P. was a hot issue at the time, and Newhart hinted that she not do the song, as "after all this is California." she wouldn't drop the song, as, "after all, this is California" -- and she was out of a job. Her comment about Bessie Smith came in there somewhere, and the audience was somehow left with the impression that if Blues didn't serve The Cause it was impure.

Having read Irwin's diatribes in the Guardian for some time then myself, the ones labelled "reviews," I think that was it. Barbara also did some kind of Filipino jungle marching song, and the only way it fit was because it was the right cause. I developed a definite kink in those days about Bad Politically Correct Art. The feminist publications and organizations which were the river I swam in were full of it; every left splinter group out to organize us Peaceniks were full of it. Every single one of Irwin's reviews was aimed at revealing the ruling class thinking of every piece of popular culture. they got funny. Strangely enough, his strongest spleen was for a documentary on red-diaper babies produced by the Democratic-Socialist Organizing Committee (DSOC), sort of a left-left wing of the Democratic Party (now Democratis Socialists of America (DSA). The doc interviewed families who had been through McCarthyism and its effect on them. Irwin was scathing; these people couldn't possibly understand what it had been like, as they were now aligned with sellout types like DSA.

Pardon me; whoever said awhile back he was confrontational had it right; or, as my favorite Chicago folksinger once said, "Irwin's a putz."

Any thoughts, Irwin, if you are listening?


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 07:19 PM

Reading these in AWE of some of the history that you folks are telling me about. Frank H-- I have been an admirer of yours since Caravan magazine did a profile on you in the late 50s (I got the back issue about 2 years later)-- heard you on the 1959 Newport Folk Festival album doing ONE cut (Lady Gay? and I had never heard of B. Kazee at the time. . . ) then Nonesuch came out and I was hooked. Hope these stories will continue as they make those days far more real to me, and I lived through them! (never quit my day job, though, so I have Roads Not Taken)


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 05:08 PM

Ignore that, Frank, just caught up with the Mean Talking Blues thread -- boy, you gotta read everything around here.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 04:55 PM

Frank, you mentioned Woody Guthrie earlier, and learning to understand him and his dark side. I was wondering if you had any thoughts about playing with him (I don't know if you did), or what he was like to be around. It has all become so clouded in legend.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: What was Lee Hays really like...?
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 04:34 PM

Jesus, I feel like one of the prisoners in "Cool Hand Luke."

"Soakin' it up here Boss...Soakin' it up here."

Spaw


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