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Subject: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 12:14 AM

Hi,Folks! It's time to get down to the business of planning the program for the 2010 Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway! This year's Getaway will be October 1-4, at the West River Conference Center on the Chesapeake Bay, and you're all invited!

If you'd like more information about the Getaway, put "Getaway" into the filter box at the top of the Mudcat page, set the age for a year or two, and you'll get more than you can read in a month or so. Before long there will be additional information on the FSGW website (www.fsgw.org).

One of the cool things about the Getaway is that we really try to tailor each year's program to the interests and talents of those who will be attending. But we can't do that until we know who's coming and what they're interested in doing. The Program Committee -- Carly Gewirz (Mudcatter "Carly"), Lorraine Van Buren (Mudcatter "Lorraine"), long-time FSGW member and Getaway-goer Kathie Mack, and I -- have been working on a fine lineup of invited guests. So far we have confirmed Debby McClatchy, Molly Andrews, Caroline Paton and Linnea Palmer Patron, Mark Ryer, and Mudcat's own Jerry Rasmussen, and we're working on a couple more. Now we're starting to put together lists of possible workshops, and we're ready for your input!

So, if you plan to come, please let us know that, and tell us what you would like to see on the program. Are there workshops you'd like to lead, co-lead, or attend? Workshops from previous years you'd like to see repeated (or not)? We're open to all suggestions, and although not all of them will end up on the final list (please do not assume that just because an idea's been discussed here, it will ipso facto be on the program...), we can assure you that all ideas will be given due consideration. You can post to this thread with your ideas, or PM any of us.

It would be a great help, by the way, if this thread could be reserved for program issues -- other Getaway topics should be posted elsewhere. Thanks.

The Getaway is all about participation, so start participating now!

Looking forward to seeing you all in October!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 12:39 AM

Nancy, Carly, Lorraine and Kathie,

Hats off to all of you, and to everyone with FSGW who make this wonderful annual magic happen. (Folks, there are actually only a relatively small number of FSGW people who put in an incredible amount of volunteer time and effort into creating this weekend that the rest of us just show up for and enjoy. The programming is a big part of it, and the most visible to most of us, but there is lots of other work involved also.)

Sounds like a wonderful guest line-up already! I'm not musical or adept enough to do a good job leading workshops, but if I can help with facilitating the programing in other ways, I'm more than happy to do so. Just let me know via pm what, if anything, I can do to help.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 05:54 AM

I think I could just about manage a Whistle Workshop again if you want Nancy !


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: SINSULL
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 08:28 AM

I will be there. I have added an anatomically correct sheep to the inflatable collection in case they are needed.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 09:46 AM

I'm planning for it, Nancy. Let me know what I can do.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Goodnight Gracie
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:33 AM

Hi Nancy,

Thanks to you and Lorraine, Carly and Cathy for taking this on. What a great line up of guests. It will be great to see Caroline and Linnea again -- it was great to see them at the WFF. I'm thrilled Debby is coming, besides a mini, I'd love it (if Debby is interested)if she would have a workshop on singing accompanied by banjo.

Grace


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:51 AM

Could we have a 'remembering Barry Finn' session, led by Ken Schatz, please.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:06 PM

I'd like to be a part of a guitar workshop about guitar accompaniment for singers. It seems like 99% of guitar workshops are a showcase for the hottest licks you can play and are completely about doing instrumentals. I don't do windows or instrumentals. This would be a workshop for singers who play guitar and would like some ideas about how they can accompany themselves.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 03:46 PM

As usual, I will throw out a few ideas for themed song circles in hopes that one or two won't be thrown out in the final selection. Here's the first batch. I mainly do this because it's fun to imagine them both in theory and in practice....



"Oiled Aquaintence" (or "So Oily One Mourn")--Spilled or unspilt. "Oil in My Lamp" or "Jerry Go Ile The Car". Olive, Cod-Liver or Whale. "The Hoily Rig", "Hootie's Ignorant Oil" or the feasibility of furthur drilling off Olay...

Songs about the Chesapeake and Potomac regions to give our visitors a sense of place and historical perspective.

"The Getaway-Getaway Workshop"--Pure escapism a la John Webb, Old Riley and John Hardy. Getaway as a request a la "Shoo Fly, Don't Bother Me". Elopment a la Lochnivar from out of the West. "Let's Get Away From It All" or anything else you think you can get away with...

"The Getaway-Gotaway Workshop"--Honoring past visitors passed on, past visitors who for some reason couldn't make it this year or Mudcat friends who moan over the internet about always wanting to come but somehow never quite do. A chance to represent those spirits and those in spirit that anyone misses by singing their songs....

Some sort of vocal technique-oriented workshop.

"Crying Fowl"--Gay goshawks, dead wrens, warbling nightingales. Cocks bringing on the day or robins and cuckoos bringing on the seasons. Wise owls and "Woody Knows Nothin' But Peckin' On Wood". Symbolic Wild Geese, Blackbirds and Bonnie Moorhens.

"Robbery-Men Of Steal"--and women, as well. With six-gun or fountain pen. Robin Hood to Robbin' Hoodlums. Bands of outlaws and bands of black and/or blue velvet. Stolen Hearts and stolen brides. And your favorite corporations and legislators by name....

That's all for now, but there's bound to be a few more.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:24 PM

A couple of years ago I led a workshop in adapting the poems of Cicely Fox Smith for singing. Now I've published Volume 1 of the Sea Songs of Cicely Fox Smith and would be happy to lead another workshop if there is interest.

I'd also be interested in assisting with a Barry Finn Remembrance. My wife and I recorded and produced Barry and Neil's CD and got to know them very well.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:57 PM

BobertsBluesBand would love to do a mini or a workshop... Doesn't much matter... Just don't put me up against God Himself again... Last year year I had to take on Utah Phillips... Year before that??? I can't rmember but it was equally challengin'... Makes it hard to round up the Floozies...

Will also volunteer to do a "Train Song" workshop...

And available to do a "Beer Sneaking" workshop...

BTW, always lookin' for new Floozie talent... Post posterior pics, por favor... lol...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 07:18 PM

Nancy, I plan to be there, and therfore volunteer to help in any capacity that suits, I have a particular soft spot for the Songwriters showcase stuff, but anything you think of will be fine!
Micca


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 07:37 PM

I have already told Bobert I'll play whistle in the blues stuff !
Band AND Workshop - And maybe a Cut Price Yank Ratchell mandolin part ?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 08:07 PM

I think an Influences workshop might be interesting. None of us were made out of whole cloth. Each participant could do two or three songs they either learned from someone who greatly influenced their style (I have several) or songs done reflecting the style of a musical influence.

I did a workshop at NOMAD a few years ago that might be interesting, too :A Family Album of Songs. The songs could include not only songs written about family members, but songs that were particular favorites of a family member.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 08:10 PM

Good idea, Jerry... You do it and, unless they schedule me in a competing time slot, I'll be there...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:21 PM

I love the "Family Album" idea.

I'll also add my voice to the chorus calling for a time slot to spend in celebration of the life of Barry Finn.   I imagine such a gathering would include a big helping of "Tales of Barry." In the fwiw department, if you do schedule a Remembrance, might not be a bad idea to not schedule anything "themed" opposite that time. Maybe an un-themed song circle and an un-themed jam. That would provide alternatives to folks who did not know Barry, or know him well enough to much care about attending something in remembrance of him, while not resulting in some one who has put the time and effort into preparing a workshop in a position that makes it likely the workshop or mini-concert would be poorly attended.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:26 PM

An FSGW event might not be the place for this, but I wonder if there would be interest in something along the lines of a Riley Puckett/Charlie Poole workshop?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 12:17 PM

I had a great idea a few weeks ago for a workshop, but now I can't recall what it was, so how about a "how to memorize new songs when you're an old fart" workshop?

I like the Family Album idea, and it goes right along with the 'influences' workshop, at least for me, because my family was my first musical influence (and my uncle Bud the first songwriter I ever met).

If I remember the workshop idea, I'll post that, too. As I recall, the idea came in conversation or correspondence with someone else, so mayhap they'll remember it.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: CET
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 06:34 PM

Charmion and I will be there and will be glad to help out anywhere. It's hard to think of topics that I haven't suggested at some point over the last several years. Severn has already suggested Crime, a perennial favourite of mine. I'm definitely up for the Barry Finn workshop. I have fond memories of the Gratuitous Violence workshop he and I did.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 05:42 AM

Tawmmie and I will be in attendance. We are both very excited to meet up with good friends again. Its been 6 years since my last Getaway and I will gladly help out however and whenever. See you all again in October.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: TJO
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 07:22 PM

Love the idea of a Charlie Poole workshop. And Jerry's guitar accompaniment workshop. Charlie Poole/Riley Puckett would be out of the usual swimlane for the Getaway, but all the better.

T.J.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: artbrooks
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 11:23 PM

Jenn and I plan to be there...and I hope that there will be a place for the designated audience.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 12:10 AM

Tsk, tsk, Art. You have been to Getaways and know that for the most part, the nearest thing to "audience" is "participant-observer."

Having read your valuable remarks about song circles in your region inspires me to wonder about some sort of mini-workshop or discussion/lecture from those who have successfully been involved in developing or running song circles that might be helpful to those of us who have tried and essentially failed.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 07:50 AM

Wow already!

Jerry's gonna be there?! I like the Influences idea a lot. I like YOU a lot!

How could such a perfect gathering get even better, year after year? But somehow, magically, it does.

Balanced, of course, by the terrible loss of friends, who were themselves tremendous influences, musically and personally. It will be good to remember them with you all.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 10:23 AM

Wow!! Florida Mike, Art, Jerry and Rapaire! This is a PRemium Vintage Year!!!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 01:28 PM

Somebody asked me once, "Why do they call them workshops?" "Got me," I answered. They're really song swaps with a pre-agreed upon topic. That's fine with me. Once in awhile, something unexpected happens and the conversation between songs and performers magically gets beneath the "And then I wrote" or "Bet you can't do this" level and there is a real connection made between the performers and the audience. You can't program that, sad to say, but I'm always thankful when it happens.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 08:21 PM

You bringin' Ruth with ya, Jer???


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 09:35 PM

Like in the bible whither I goest, Ruth comest also.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 10:12 PM

I shall be there, swords in hand and perhaps also my trumpet if my embouchre returns in time. Otherwise I'll simply bring myself*.









*"Jarring!" -- NY Times Review of Books; "Interesting voice, from a non-musical perspective" -- Seattle Times-Picaynune; "Definitely definitive!" -- Quincy Whig; "Practice, boys, because he's not to be missed!" -- Pocatello Tribune; "Absolutely the best of whatever he is" -- New Journal of New Baroque Music.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 10:14 PM

Which reminds me -- has this place got any Internet access?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 10:19 PM

You can get wireless from certain parts of the campus, yes.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 10:29 PM

Good. I'll bring my netbook.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:04 PM

I'm betting that Nancy would appreciate it if this thread could more or less be limited to posts regarding program planning issues, as in years past. I know it is early, but given so much response here already, maybe some one ought to start a general 2010 Getaway thread for folks to post everything not program related.


Hmmm......maybe I'll be that some one!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Gorgeous Gary
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:19 PM

Well, I'm coming off the end of the filk music convention I periodically help run (and actually chaired this time), so I'm too brain dead at the moment to think of program ideas (new ones or ones I've led before).

But, great to hear Alaska Mike and Debbie will be back!! 8-)

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:22 PM

If it ain't pretty directly related to programming, workshop suggestions or offers to lead a workshop, please head on over to Getaway 2010 News/Discussion Thread

It helps the hard working volunteer Program Committee if this thread stays focused on workshop suggestions or offers to lead workshops.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 09:32 AM

On the issue of "workshop success" I like to see some evidence that the person (or persons) coordinating the workshop has actually done some planning, has something structured to say or sing, that people can carry away.

Sometimes one can recruit workshop participants in advance via threads like this one and assign them an active workshop role such as leading a particular song or demonstrating some other musical skill. One can also pass out songsheets and other written materials or have CD's available.

Ideally there should also be time set aside for questions and more spontaneous interaction.

If the "workshop leader" is just introducing and singing songs, it would be better to title that a "mini-concert." I also like "mini-concerts."

There is, of course, seldom enough time to do everything but a good faith attempt to try usually makes for a better "workshop."

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 09:47 AM

As Janie asked, please post comments and banter in the Getaway 2010 General Discussion thread. Nancy is using this one to track actual workshops - offers to lead and workshop titles.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 11:23 AM

Well, yeah... Workshops need some structure, Charley... The couple blues ones I have "facilitated" were song circles and went very well... I mean, seems folks don't come to them if they don't have a couple blues songs to contribute... Actually that's about the way all of the "workshops" have worked that I've attended with one lone exception which I won't talk about...

And minis are just that... Half an hour performance with or without accompaniment... I personally like to have the various components of the BobertsBluesBand in place.... Especially the Floozies... Ah, yes...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 12:27 PM

Charlie, some workshops cannot be prepared for For example the intention behind the original "Songwriters showcase" (a seminar might be a better description for what takes place) was that songwriters would introduce a song, give a SHORT summary of how and why it was written then sing the song.In this way some very strange stories and inspirations were reveled, it was hoped it would give an insight into the way some of the songwriters worked, and into the creative process. and I think we succeded in this aim, I certainly learned a lot about how different people write, and still have some very clear images from word pictures that were shared (ask me about the "dead cat in the road"
I hope this is "on topic"


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 12:41 PM

I'm planning to attend again this year (5 in a row!)

I enjoy the genre-themed workshops, like the Cowboy songs, Crime songs, Railroad songs sessions. I wish sometimes people attending would take the time to, for example, prepare a train song instead of performing a song they like to play and announce it as "well it's not exactly a train song, but many engineers were religious, so here's The Old Rugged Cross." I know....picky picky picky.

Would there be any interest in a workshop/session where people perform their own songs? I realize the Getaway is mainly about traditional music, but I know there are a lot of songwriters who attend, and I would love to hear their stuff in a song-circle environment, maybe even tabbed with lyrics so that others could play and sing along.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 12:57 PM

Cross-posted with Micca, but looks like we were on the same wavelength. Spooky!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:00 PM

LEJ see my post of 12.27pm above, and if it is on the program I would be happy to help host, co-host, facilitate, whatever!!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:01 PM

I know lots of train songs, Leej: A Miner's Life is like a Railroad, and "All Ya Gotta Do is Train..." and also the Old Rugged Cross. Oh, and "She Walks These Hills in a Long Black Train..." isn't it?

LOL!!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:12 PM

Perhaps a 'rationalization' workshop? A list of topics is presented and singers have to justify why THEIR current favorite fits.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: gnu
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:20 PM

Shaping up to be a good one!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:47 PM

Well, Amos, We can annoint you "Train Rex" and put you in charge.
Your motives seem loco enough, you know the terrain, and you can
offer us tokens of your steam to remind us nostalgically that the only good engine is a dead engine and that The Army Corps of Engineers isn't the only group of such folks worth a dam. Like sea songs, a gathering such as we'll have can't do without
such a song circle, to be held in a round house, if possible.

If they change it to
"The Old Rugged Crossing" you can let the offenders stay.

Even The Underground Railroad should not be considered beneath our station.

Trains should be bound for glory, not gagged. Let's do it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 02:02 PM

my God, Severn. The mind boggles. I should rail against such nonsense but ....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 02:06 PM

Lonseome EJ: Ya mean I can't play any songs I wrote? Or is there a quota? :-) I love traditional music and do a fair amount but I don't want to be apologetic about singing my own songs...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 02:16 PM

Jerry,

I'm probably just being overly sensitive about getting a "singer-songwriter" workshop together. I'd love to hear as many tunes as you can put out there.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 02:40 PM

It's partly a matter of Art. And partly a matter of Thieme.


A


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