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Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's

JHW 24 Oct 19 - 06:21 AM
GUEST,Brian McCarthy 22 Oct 19 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,GUEST: DaveA 09 Aug 17 - 07:51 AM
GUEST,padgett 28 Apr 17 - 03:01 AM
GUEST,folky 27 Apr 17 - 08:39 AM
GUEST,strummer 22 Mar 17 - 11:07 AM
GUEST,John Bates 11 Mar 17 - 12:52 PM
r.padgett 14 Apr 15 - 03:43 AM
oggie 14 Apr 15 - 02:58 AM
r.padgett 13 Apr 15 - 11:27 AM
GUEST,David Nuttall , Wakefield 13 Apr 15 - 07:45 AM
GUEST,Stuart 12 Apr 15 - 05:18 PM
Betsy 11 Dec 14 - 07:40 PM
Betsy 11 Dec 14 - 07:33 PM
Betsy 11 Dec 14 - 07:04 PM
GUEST,gw 11 Dec 14 - 07:30 AM
Les in Chorlton 31 May 14 - 03:11 AM
GUEST,Joe G 30 May 14 - 08:15 PM
Les in Chorlton 30 May 14 - 08:09 AM
GUEST,guest geoff w 30 May 14 - 05:49 AM
GUEST,Peter Trout 06 Mar 14 - 03:13 PM
GUEST,Peter Trout 06 Mar 14 - 03:13 PM
Les in Chorlton 06 Mar 14 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,hokum 06 Mar 14 - 08:18 AM
Troutweaver 21 May 13 - 04:03 AM
selby 05 Feb 13 - 09:51 AM
Les in Chorlton 05 Feb 13 - 07:42 AM
GUEST 03 Feb 13 - 03:49 PM
GUEST,Just Call Me Al 03 May 12 - 11:24 AM
GUEST,Just Call Me Al 25 Apr 12 - 08:44 AM
GUEST,Judy 26 Mar 12 - 08:22 AM
r.padgett 25 Oct 11 - 03:39 AM
GUEST,Don Wise 22 Oct 11 - 09:20 AM
GloriaJ 21 Oct 11 - 10:21 AM
Dave Hanson 21 Oct 11 - 05:30 AM
GUEST,Frances W. ( Lord ) 20 Oct 11 - 06:42 PM
GUEST,Guest Betsy 23 Jun 11 - 04:30 AM
GUEST,Mrs. Holroyd 22 Jun 11 - 07:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: JHW
Date: 24 Oct 19 - 06:21 AM

A lot to read here but Richmond doesn't seem to have had a mention.
Mid sixties at The Oak Tree, (which now is houses) my first FC and been going in Richmond ever since, sometimes called a FC sometimes just what happened on a Friday. Currently (2019) back at The Black Lion and usually in the best room upstairs (unless the landlord gets a better offer).


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Brian McCarthy
Date: 22 Oct 19 - 11:51 AM

I remember regularly joining a convoy of Folkies from the Harrogate, Knaresborough, Ripon area. We would travel down the A61 to the Eagle on North Street ,Leeds on a sunday lunchtime.there were some great clubs in those days. including the borough Bailiff at Knaresborough, courtesy of john and Maggie Burrell et al . Harrogate theatre, Foster Beck, Grewelthorpe, Kirby Malzeard, The Blackamore at Ripon, where Roger Knowles was a regular. I was at sea a lot of the time so missed many great acts


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,GUEST: DaveA
Date: 09 Aug 17 - 07:51 AM

Just stumbled on this site, it takes me back. My favourite club was the informal Cherry Tree, run by "Geordie Tyke" (actually Sid was really a Macam). Even my wife felt so relaxed and comfortable that she sang with me.
Ray Padgett ran the first couple of clubs that we regularly attended and the first time I plucked up courage to sing was with Ray's blessing at a pub in Barnsley.
The Centenary Rooms at Barnsley was where we first saw Martin Carthy, The Watersons, Tony Rose, Tony Capstick, Magic Lantern (Shadow puppet group, brilliant); but Ray Padgett also got some great artists to headline at his clubs- Dave Burland, Wendy Grossman from USA and Roy Bailey spring to mind.
Glad I happened on this site. We moved to the North East after the strike and never got back onto the folk scene really after 1986.
Thanks for the memories you've all just triggered and to those who listened to us, entertained us and made us part of a vibrant, friendly and rewarding scene.
Dave (of Joy and Dave "fame")


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 28 Apr 17 - 03:01 AM

Sad to inform that Betsy ~ Pete Betts has passed on around a year ago!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,folky
Date: 27 Apr 17 - 08:39 AM

hello strummer maybe betsy remembers val and husband


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,strummer
Date: 22 Mar 17 - 11:07 AM

what happened to val and husband who ran the Victoria club in Pudsey. I think they had a rhubarb farm


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,John Bates
Date: 11 Mar 17 - 12:52 PM

Nellies in Beverley (The White Horse) didn't become a folk club until after Nelly and family had departed. I am reasonably sure it started in 1974 or 5. I used to sing there and occasionally at Driffield and Holme-upon-Spalding Moor until I left the area. I also have memories of some of the other places mentioned in other threads especially Halifax and Huddersfield.

Great times.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Apr 15 - 03:43 AM

The White Swan was it? where Beverley folk club continued till changes in management and licencing

This was great venue for the folk festival and Nellies, was the nickname as the old landlady dispensed beer by ladle or someother such means and was I was told a character, I got the impression the tables downstairs were wooden and big and had many a scrubbing down

Upstairs still lit by gaslight and wicks on the wall for many a year, late Geoff Turner did the door during folk festival and had help from Brenda and Norrie Spence (now in Leeds at the Grove fc!) and Chris Wade a festival director


ray


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: oggie
Date: 14 Apr 15 - 02:58 AM

"Somebody upthread mentioned Nellies in Beverley - I'm sure that was open before the mid-70s because I seem to remember going there in my late teens/early 20s."

I came to Hull in 1975 and it opened about a year later. Guest that first night (done as a favour to the organiser Ray Williams) was Mick Elliott. I think the first "proper" guest night a few weeks later was Pegleg Ferret.

In the early days it still had the old gas lamps in place and it was the first time the room had been used since the nineteen thirties. It also had the original bar (not the monstrosity that's there now) which was a marble table with a washing up bowl underneath. The beer pumps were set into the back wall.

Steve

PS It also had about the best acoustics of any room I've been in although the roaring fire behind the guests could play hell with tuning :)


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: r.padgett
Date: 13 Apr 15 - 11:27 AM

Yes Bretton Hall was a music college I think too and I remember being at the folk events on occasion up in the rafters a barn maybe?


Wakefield had contemporary folk with Gifford Rolfe and Andrew Mullins at a venue in a park building off Denby Dale rd Wakefield witha dedicated following who didnt go many other place

Woolpack was famous barn dance venue centre of Wakfield and had the Mathews Brothers semi resident for some time early 70s

ray


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,David Nuttall , Wakefield
Date: 13 Apr 15 - 07:45 AM

I was at Bretton Hall Teacher Training College from 1963 to 1966 and there was a lively weekly folk club held there .....both for the students and the general public . It was formed and run by Kevin Slater who is still very active in all forms of music in and around Telford. Mike Levon ( Holy Ground Records ) made many live recordings of the folk sessions there and some are used on later C.D s....see Holy Ground Records website . We also sang and played in the legendary MOODIE'S BAR in 9 Bread Street , Wakefield which was NOT a folk club as such but was a gem for live folk music. Here , too , Mike made many live recordings.

In the centre of Wakefield was the WOOLPACK hotel which housed a weekly folk club for a number of years and was run by Tony Foxworthy . I believe he is still very active in Folk Music.

The Folk scene is today extremely active in and around Wakefield ( see Fernandes Folk and Bull And Fair House Folk ).You are always very welcome.


David


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Stuart
Date: 12 Apr 15 - 05:18 PM

Just had a slow and nostalgic wander through all the above - could be a day or two before the smile wears off! So many familiar names/venues/clubs. I haven't scoured all the listings but one club seems to be without a mention - Wakefield Folk Club at the Green Dragon,(now Henry Boon's Westgate (fridays) ,late 60's/early 70's. I hope I'm not the "last man standing"


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Betsy
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 07:40 PM

Sorry about this glitch - I was trying to type - Graham and Dave Priestly were the Pudsey organisers. Thanks to "Just call me Al" - I couldn't remember Seacroft., and, there was also a folk "do" on a barge in Leeds


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Betsy
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 07:33 PM

Previous message - Dave ng GRAHAM PUDSY


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Betsy
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 07:04 PM

Dave and Graham Priestly lovely characters


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,gw
Date: 11 Dec 14 - 07:30 AM

dave and graham ran the Victoria at Pudsey. later Valerie and husband. anybody got any surnames ?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 31 May 14 - 03:11 AM

Was that run by two brothers around 1971/2?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 30 May 14 - 08:15 PM

Well the Topic was there of course in various venues - before my time - I came to Bradford in 1982 but a detailed venue & guest list is on the Topic website.

The club is still going strong and it would be good to see people at our lovely new venue Glyde House. We meet every Thursday with the first Thursday being a Singers & Musicians Night and remainder guest nights - a health mix of new and upcoming artists and old favourites!


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 30 May 14 - 08:09 AM

Was that run by two brothers?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,guest geoff w
Date: 30 May 14 - 05:49 AM

Victoria club at Pudsey. anybody with any memories ?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Peter Trout
Date: 06 Mar 14 - 03:13 PM

There was a thriving folk Club at The Bridge, the pub in Grinton, Swaledale during the early 70s. Primus motor was Carl Grossman who in his day wrote "Down the Dustpipe" which was a hit for Status Quo. I have Many happy memories from Nights playing there.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Peter Trout
Date: 06 Mar 14 - 03:13 PM

There was a thriving folk Club at The Bridge, the pub in Grinton, Swaledale during the early 70s. Primus motor was Carl Grossman who in his day wrote "Down the Dustpipe" which was a hit for Status Quo. I have Many happy memories from Nights playing there.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 06 Mar 14 - 10:53 AM

Geoff Ingham, now there's a name I remember very well from 71 - 72. Worked on the Ham on the Bone counter in Lewis's. If you went in for a chat he'd would slice you a bit which might contain a bit of his thumb. I ment him and a pile of others my first week end in Leeds - at The Grove, Brian and Keith (sadly gone) - brilliant. They invited me to a party - meeting in Whitelocks around 6 the next night - 2 buses to somewhere. Great party. Geoff and a few others ended up in a fish pond and Geoff claimed to have eaten a fish. Just before I left Leeds I asked him - did you eat a fish? He said no! Two. Got The Light Dragoon from Geoff.

Great crowd, great fun, Sunday at The Adelphi run by Bob (also sadly gone) and Hazel Sprey. Loads of other clubs. Sue Garth Mason - good singer, Dave Bulmer - accordian.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,hokum
Date: 06 Mar 14 - 08:18 AM

Geoff ingham last seen working as driving instructor in roundhay, leeds. Geoff ingram also went to the grove as did several other geoffs. any info on Victoria Pudsey?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Troutweaver
Date: 21 May 13 - 04:03 AM

Fantastic attack of nostalgia!
Thursday nights at the Fleece Addingham. Was run by a chap called Martin Johnston I think. From 78/9 to 82 I sat atop that piano at the back with my drinking buddy TC. On Sundays another of David's shouts was, "Shut up or I'll follow you home and talk while you perform!"


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: selby
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 09:51 AM

The Landlord of the Bay Horse Tadcaster 1963 to 1976 ish was a guy called John Gunning
who did indeed write the song The Sweet River Aire. Which incidentally occasionally pops up in threads about Walter Greaves
Keith


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 07:42 AM

Does she still sing?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 03:49 PM

Sue Garth Mason

Lovely voice; knew her quite well in the early 70s but no idea what happened to her


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Just Call Me Al
Date: 03 May 12 - 11:24 AM

Re the above threads. I used to be around the Leeds Folkscene late sixties early seventies, and can remember quite a few clubs. Here goes:- Adelphi(Bob Spray), Irish National on Kirkgate, The Elden,The Cobourg, The Guildford (Johnnie Wall), The Royal Park another one of Johnnie Walls numorous ventures, The Grove of course, The Albion at Morley, The Brunswick and Angel at Morley, Black Bull at Birstall also Wine and Spirit Vaults, Black Swan at Yeadon, The Cottages at Boroughbridge, Borough Baillif at Knaresborough, Bay Horse at Tadcaster, Seacroft(Maypole Club) which moved from Barwick in Elmet, thats it for now. If I think of any more I'll let you know. It was great you could go to a different Folk Club seven nights a week. Don't ask me to name the performers who were all top notch, I'd be here forever.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Just Call Me Al
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 08:44 AM

I used to floor sing in the 70s and the clubs were numerous. but I wonder who can help me. One of my favourite clubs was The Bay Horse at Tadcaster on Saturday nights. The landlord(who ran the club)was a great character himself and I believe he actually wrote the song "Sweet River Aire" which Walter Greaves used to sing. Can anyone remember his name?
Can anyone remember the words to that song. Happy memories!


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Judy
Date: 26 Mar 12 - 08:22 AM

I used to help organise The Grass Roots in Halifax when it was at the Plummet Line I could usually be found taking the moeny at the door.
The club was run by Gus Grenfell aka John Smith.
Many of the artists listed above performed at the Grass Roots and at the Singing Jenny, we often booked singers for the two clubs together.
Haven't noticed Pete Stanley or Nigel Denver mentioned, quite frequent visitors to the club.
a group of us would go to the Jenny, the Topic, was that where John Pashley operated? and the club where the Seven Hills resided in leeds.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Oct 11 - 03:39 AM

Believe it or not Walter Greaves story appears in a Memories of Barnsley publication!

I did known Walter and Bill but I dont remember Tom Daniel ( no "s" I think)personally

Dorothy Fawthrop used to dance with Tom Owen of Barnsley and her mum said in my prescence that she and Tom Daniel had (re) constructed and remembered Poverty Knocks [collected by AL Lloyd] together

Dancing at Ceilds/Barndances at Heckmondwike/Batley and Wakefield afforded the chance to sing too.

John Browell leads the Christmas sings at the Wickham and Saw nr Cleckheaton each year with often, Dave Mallinson, Roy Atkinson, Ron Darnbrough, The Twentymens, NOrrie and Brenda Spence, Trevor Charnock being the current main West Riding old folkies. Mick Haywood now being in Whitby for some years

Ray


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 22 Oct 11 - 09:20 AM

Not exactly a club....in the mid-70s Pete & Chris Coe organized some cracking sessions in The Blue Ball, above Rishworth, as well as great knees-ups in Ripponden ( Town Hall?)


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GloriaJ
Date: 21 Oct 11 - 10:21 AM

Its interesting to hear about Walter Greaves.I knew him a little, but didnt know about his cycling exploits.He became a blacksmith near Skipton. He certainly looked the part of the trad folksinger - grey beard and all - but I'm sorry to say I felt at the time, as others did,that he opportunistically found a role ready waiting for him and slipped into it,after stumbling across the vibrant leeds folk scene.Desperate to get involved, he got hold of the book Marrowbones which everyone was using in the 70s, and learned some songs from it.I think he enjoyed a kind of minor celebrity,and may even have been booked at C Sharp House by the EFDSS - but he wasnt much of a singer.I bet inwardly he was astonished that people had so easily bought into the myth they themselves had created - although to be fair I never heard him claim to be a trad singer.It was both amusing and irritating to see how quickly he set himself up as an authority on traditional unaccompanied singing.I know this sounds a bit critical - I liked him as a person, and he was a character.
Someone perhaps more worthy of respect as a mainstay of the yorkshire folk scene is Geoff Wood - still around, at the age of about 90, and still singing - I saw him a few weeks ago at the Grove.Also collector of some classic songs e.g. The Lish Young Buy-A-Broom.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Oct 11 - 05:30 AM

I well remember the Grass Roots, it moved location a few times, The Royal Oak, Plummet Line, Upper George and the Crown in Horton Street, the Royal Oak was by far the best venue but as always on changing ownership, the new landlord didn't want a folk club.

Richard Collins went to Australia [ same time as a few more, Derek Scott and Jacquie Fraser ] last I heard he was working as a TV producer.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Frances W. ( Lord )
Date: 20 Oct 11 - 06:42 PM

I remember spending great nights at The Grass Roots club in halifax. Remember Richard Collins? Vivid memories of the crowded Fleece in Addingham. As for the Jovial Crew - who could forget them? Happy days!


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Guest Betsy
Date: 23 Jun 11 - 04:30 AM

Gail & Steve ......The Adelphi was in Leeds - run by Bob Spray.

In Hull there was also the Haworth arms.

Has anyone mentioned South Cave ?


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Mrs. Holroyd
Date: 22 Jun 11 - 07:12 PM

DEwsbury Folk began on Tuesdays in the late 50's, the first venue being above a Chinese Restaurant in Ravensthorpe (part of Dewsbury) It was run mainly by Keith Pearson and Phil (second name excapes me) and moved to the Station near the market in the early 60's which was when I first started going. Dave Burland, Bill Price, Tommy Daniels, John and Hazel Browell Dorothy Fawthrop and her mother Kate,were amongst the regulars, and you were considered to be "in" if you got a seat near the fire. Everybody paid entrance fee of 1 shilling (later raised to 1.6d)and guests were booked when funds allowed. In the early 70's I took over the running of the club and we moved up to the Shoulder of Mutton on Halifax Road. We had frequent bus trips out to other clubs, one in particular was Bubwith Club, when the bus failed to collect us at midnight and Bill Price was found curled up with the goats! The club also began having monthly ceilidhs at the rugby club and, due to a band giving backword at short notice, a band was quickly put together from the club members to fill the gap. John Browell suggested that it should be called Broomfield Wager Band, as we practised at Broomfield House and he would wager a quid that we didn't get through the evening without making a b****r of it. The club, along with the Batley Club, organised a memorial concert for Tommy Daniels in l970, and this was so successful that the following year saw the First West Riding Festival of Folk held in Dewsbury Town Hall. This Festival ran for 7 or 8 years, moving around the Heavy Woollen District to Cleckheaton, Batley, Ossett. It certainly was one of the first clubs in Yorkshire


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 11 - 11:41 AM

A tribute to the late Jon Rennard, to mark the 40th anniversary of his death on 29th July 2011.

Jon Rennard Tribute & Leeds Memories


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Dave G
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 04:40 PM

Many thanks for that Good Soldier. Walter was indeed a very extraordinary man. I believe (it is alleged) that he was responsible for painting many of the left wing slogans on the bridges between Bradford and Skipton that appeared in the 60's and 70's.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 12:49 PM

Walter Greaves (cyclist)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Walter Greaves Personal information
Full name         Walter William Greaves
Date of birth         April–June 1907
Place of birth          United Kingdom
Date of death         1987
Team information
Discipline         Road - Endurance rider
Role         Rider
Rider type         All-rounder
Amateur team(s)
Airedale CC
Major wins
World Endurance record for a single year
- 45,383 miles (73,037 km) in 1936
Infobox last updated on
13 October 2008

Walter William Greaves (April–June 1907[1] – 1987) was a British cyclist who set the world record for distance ridden in a year - despite having only one arm and falling off numerous times. Greaves rode 45,383 miles (73,037 km) in 1936.
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    1 Personal life
    2 The 1936 World Endurance record
       2.1 Record background
       2.2 Preparations
       2.3 The bicycle
       2.4 The 1936 record ride
       2.5 End of the record
    3 The Golden Book
    4 Life after the record
    5 Notes
    6 References

[edit] Personal life

Greaves was born in 1907, his birth was registered in the North Bierley district, Yorkshire. He lived with his mother in Newlands Place, Undercliffe, Bradford.[2] He lost an arm in a road accident when he was 14.[2] One account says his father owned a car with running boards. His father was driving after drinking and Greaves opened the door, stood on the running board ready to jump, but was hit by a tram. His arm was so damaged that it was amputated below the elbow.[3] Other accounts said that he had hung the arm out of a train window.

He developed an interest in communism which did little to help him find work as an engineer. According to the historian John Naylor, Greaves was unemployed and according to some, almost destitute. Unemployment in Bradford was high but "his reputation as a lefty troublemaker made employers reluctant to take him on".[4] Tim Teale, a Leeds cyclist who knew Greaves said "Walter tried to make you sign up for the young communists but nobody took much notice".[5]

Greaves was an outspoken teetotaller, a practice which had a sequel when he broke the record.
[edit] The 1936 World Endurance record
[edit] Record background

The world record for distance cycled in a year began in 1911, an era when bicycle companies competed to show their machines were the most reliable. The first holder was Marcel Planes of France, with 34,666 miles (55,790 km). The competition was organised by the magazine Cycling. The record has been established nine times.[6] A tenth claim, by the English rider Ken Webb, was later disallowed.[n 1]
Year         Record holder         Country         Distance
1911         Marcel Planes          France         34,666 miles (55,790 km)
1932         Arthur Humbles          Great Britain         36,007 miles (57,948 km)
1933         Ossie Nicholson          Australia         43,966 miles (70,756 km)
1936         Walter Greaves          Great Britain         45,383 miles (73,037 km)
1937         Bernard Bennett          England         45,801 miles (73,710 km)
1937         René Menzies          France         61,561 miles (99,073 km)
1937         Ossie Nicholson          Australia         62,657 miles (100,837 km)
1939         Bernard Bennett          England         65,127 miles (104,812 km)
1939         Tommy Godwin          England         75,065 miles (120,805 km)


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 12:47 PM

walter greaves was an extraordinary man, he was a world champion cyclist, he did a gig in the early eighties at mildenhall folk club in suffolk and cycled home to yorkshire the same night, not bad for someone with one arm


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Dave G
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 11:51 AM

Bingley Folk Club at the Ferrands Arms run by the late John Rennard and Jim Wishart. Worth turning up just for those two, never mind the great guest list. Also remember Walter Greaves was a regular there, a one armed blacksmith who sang Lloyd George, later recorded by Tony Capstick.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Lilacvine
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:52 PM

I posted a Stefan Sobell song on YouTube a while ago but it's the only one on there at the moment. It would be good to hear more. Perhaps someone else has some old recordings they could post? Mine was from a reel to reel tape!

Stefan Sobell - The Mask I Wore


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Will Fly
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:46 PM

I recall attending the Leeds University Folk Club (among others) around 1964/5. The very first time I ever saw what we, in those days, wrongly called the "clawhammer" style (it was really Travis-type picking) was when a young guitarist called Stefan played and sang a version of "The Golden Vanity". We rushed back to student digs transfixed and got to work on it as fast as we could.

I learned, many years later, that the guitarist was called Stefan Sobell. I confirmed this by email correpondence with Stefan recently and he admitted that the young maestro was indeed himself.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Musket
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:06 PM

I started going to my local club "just over the border" at The Boundary in Worksop in the late '70s.

I used to go to many of the South Yorkshire clubs with Mitch, and Tom & Bertha Brown et al assuming we could cadge a lift. The Wheatsheaf at Barnsley, Kiveton Club at The Lord Conyers, Grapes on Trippet Lane Sheffield, Bay Horse at Bentley... All of which have been mentioned. We also used to book many of the names mentioned here at The Boundary in those days. Heady stuff.

Mind you, by reading this thread... after all these ruddy years... somebody has owned up to telling John Bartley to start learning monologues!!! One assumes the statute of limitations was checked first? Oggle goggle oggle goggle......


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:46 AM

"Somebody upthread mentioned Nellies in Beverley - I'm sure that was open before the mid-70s because I seem to remember going there in my late teens/early 20s."

I used to drink in Nellie's when it was still run by Nellie and Dorothy and there wasn't a folk club there up to 1968 when I left the area. There was one at The Sun which, in those days, I think was called The Fox. I also remember great nights at The Blue Bell in Hull. Those were the days whyen fol music was actually 'cool' and there were more people under 30 than over.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 03:46 AM

"Somebody upthread mentioned Nellies in Beverley - I'm sure that was open before the mid-70s because I seem to remember going there in my late teens/early 20s."

I used to drink in Nellie's when it was still run by Nellie and Dorothy and there wasn't a folk club there up to 1968 when I left the area. There was one at The Sun which, in those days, I think was called The Fox. I also remember great nights at The Blue Bell in Hull. Those were the days whyen fol music was actually 'cool' and there were more people under 30 than over.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 02:38 PM

More videos of Jon Rennard have now been added to YouTube and links are on this thread. Jon was very involved in the Yorkshire folk scene prior to his death.


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Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's
From: GUEST,Lilacvine
Date: 08 Jun 11 - 04:26 PM

More new YouTube videos of Jon Rennard...


Jon Rennard - In Your Smile


Jon Rennard - I Live Not Where I Love


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