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BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified

Mrrzy 05 Dec 09 - 06:25 PM
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Subject: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 06:25 PM

I thought this was actually fairly hysterical... analysis? Note, especially, the "real quotes" - (for the humor-impaired this is not serious, fyi).


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 06:50 PM

Kee-Rist!~ (not a religious comment...just a common cultural expression)

As if I didn't have a bad enough headache already. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: olddude
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 07:48 PM

:-) priceless follow that one folks ...

looks like my object diagrams for some advanced software ... good grief


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 07:53 PM

That is a complete cracxkup. GfS should have it printed in a six-foot blowup to hang on her office wall...



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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: gnu
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 08:19 PM

I like it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 09:03 PM

I think hexagon diagrams are great! Even bees use that geometry.

Now if they were pentagon I might have a problem.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 11:04 PM

Amos:"That is a complete cracxkup. GfS should have it printed in a six-foot blowup to hang on her office wall..."

Hi Amos, ,,or Don Froth, could have made an altar out of it.

Hey, you actually put up a post, that wasn't cut and pasted!..I'm proud of you!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Dec 09 - 11:21 PM

I don't think you get where GfS is coming from, Amos, I really don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 11:53 AM

If we don't get it, LH, I don't think I mind. I'd want a complete anti contamination outfit before I'd venture into the darker recesses of that mind.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 01:10 PM

Oh? Well, I can't figure what the fuss is about, myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:04 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:05 PM

Hey, where's my blicky? I was posting this...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:06 PM

Yes, definitely easier to read.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:17 PM

Thanks, Mrrzy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:21 PM

Somebody has gotta do up a diagram like that to illustrate the discrimination against us primates! I am gonna contact this baboon I know who is real good at graphic art and see what can be done.

Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 02:48 PM

Banana and coconut shapes for "for" and, oh, feces for "against" - ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 07:15 PM

Now THERE'S a specist comment, if ever I've heard one! Chongo will be incensed.

On the other hand, it would work quite well in a graphic sense...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Dec 09 - 10:18 PM

I'd hate to smell Chongo incensed. I doubt if they smell too good when you light them...............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 05:10 AM

Elton John has been given a baby boy born on Christmas Day. Him and Furnish are to be allowed to be parents to the 7lb 15oz baby.

The pair had one of these civil partnerships in 2005.
They are so happy and neither had to join the priesthood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 05:32 AM

Said child is called

Zachary Jackson Levon Furnish-John

Furnish John ! FFS, the jokes that child will have to endure in years to come.

I have a bookshelf in my john


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: JennieG
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 05:40 AM

Isn't Elton just a tad....oldish.....to be a first-time daddy? He will be pushing 80 when the child is still a teenager......

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: John P
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 10:20 AM

One of the reasons gay people should be allowed to marry is that the anti-marriage crowd is so amazingly stupid. The following list was posted in an online gay debate and the anti-gay folks thought it was serious and started using it as "proof" that gay marriage is bad.


Why Gay People Shouldn't Get Married

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 10:39 AM

I've been looking for the badge which says, "Homosexual practice can seriously damage your health".....but it isn't there.....now I find THAT hillarious!   :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:08 AM

Yes, that should definitely be added as a red hexagon, with an arrow to a blue one that says "unsafe sex can damage anyone's health - gay or straight"


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:16 AM

Read the figures you prat!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:50 AM

"Homosexual practice can seriously damage your health"....."

Protect yourself, ake. Don't engage in it. Live forever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:01 PM

Well I would like to live as long as possible Ebbie, thats why I try to convince all my family to give up smoking.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Brian May
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:04 PM

Sorry . . . was that illustration supposed to influence anybody?

Waste of effort really, nobody from either camp (sorry, but I had to use the term) is likely to be swayed either way.

It does, however, provide we cynics with some trifle of amusement.

I would have thought it's the sort of thing some 15 year old Bible Belt adolescent would do on High School Art assignment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:06 PM

The 'figures' make it clear that certain practices and promiscuious behavior require specific precautions. They also make it clear that monogamous bonding, as in legal marriage, very much reduces STDs.

Simply citing 'figures' does little to solve anything or suggest solutions unless you show how they are relevant.

{{Some people are gentetically disposed to be heavy, and there ARE ways to offset that problem with medications and diet.... but telling them "don't eat" is not one of the suggested solutions.}}


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:10 PM

Ooooooh noooooooo!
Same shit, different year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:25 PM

It's like a bad itch that just won't go away, Jeri. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:28 PM

The figures make it clear, that a very small percentage of homosexuals want Marriage/monogamy(Scandanavian survey)
Those who do "marry", use it primarily for financial benefits/immigration/insurance etc....not to set up a family structure(the traditional definition of marriage).

The hiv figures for homosexuals are at least 44times worse for homos than heteroes If we take it that both demographics use around the same amount of "safe sex" precautions, the discrepancy must be put down to either extreme promiscuity among a large proportion of homos, or some other vector associated only with male/male sexual intercourse.

Are homos in general really 44 times more promiscuous than heteros?

Anyway, there is something very bad going on within homosexual practice, which means that we should not be promoting it as "safe and healthy" until the reasons for the huge percentages of premature deaths and disease, among especially young homosexuals, are determined.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:41 PM

Jeri.....they keep posting nonesense, I will keep refuting it!

If an alternative view upsets you.....dont read the thread....seemples!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:47 PM

I don't think "we" need to promote it at all, ake.

The big issue here is much easier to understand than the Bible's rather contradictory and confusing concepts. The Insurance Industry is against gay marriage, because it increases their exposure to family coverage and claims. But why should they make that the issue when there are plenty of morons with God Hates Queers stamped in their hearts who are more than willing to jump into the breach?

When I hear about the drug-abusing heterosexual parents who let their child get into the coke stash on their coffee table, or the drunken stepfather who beats a child to death for peeing on the couch, or the parents who leave their kids in cars in 110 degree temperatures while they do some quick shopping, I am quite satisfied that homosexual parents could be a good deal less dangerous and more responsible. I think the way you treat your mate and your offspring is much more important than whether you are a different or same sex couple,


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM

Yes I would agree with that EJ, but with the homosexual marriage issue, we are forced to deal in generalities.
I would be in favour of removing chilren from heterosexual parents, who were unwilling or unable to amend destructive behaviour.

Many addicts in Scotland DO have their children removed when their addiction cannot be controlled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 01:00 PM

"Promiscuity" is common among males who do NOT seek other males, also...

Human sexuality is not an 'either-or' thing.... it is a gradient.

I fear, ake, you are merely seeking statistics to support something you already believe. (yes, I'm sure you'll claim otherwise...but your history of posting certainly leads many to suspect that way.)

I'll not bother to try to refute you further, as I'm sure enough has been said on both side to make whatever points need making.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 01:18 PM

Bill ...of course I believe what I write,what would be the sense of doing otherwise; and the figures from reputable independent sites like CDC are irrefutable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:21 PM

People are not generalities. Each case must be taken on its own merits.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:35 PM

Oh! are you sure about that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:37 PM

Re Elton being too old.

Ya know, any offspring or adopted children will be well off financially. And, they will have their parents around for a long time even if they die. It's called video recording.

By the same token, perhaps "young" people who do not have the financial means or intelligence to securely raise children should reconsider procreation or adoption?

Fuck that. I am almost 54. Like I said on the Hefner thread, if I had money, I would buy me some nice young pussy. And, if I won the lotto and had lotsa coin, she'd be squeezing out pups by the litter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:04 PM

So will I really grow taller if I hang around tall people?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:08 PM

No. If you hang on them, they will grow shorter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:48 PM

Please cross-reference to my thread: "Why I should not marry, simplified."

It might help clarify things. Then again, it might not. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: bubblyrat
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 07:36 PM

As far as I am concerned, if Reg Dwight and his boyfriend want to live together,and do the things that were legalised in Great Britain in 1968, then that's fine with me. No problem.
    But ......get MARRIED ?? And then be allowed to adopt a CHILD ??
That has to be the most disgusting,perverted,unnatural,filthy,despicable thing I ever heard of !! No wonder the Muslims hate us so much !!
As ye sow,so shall ye reap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 09:53 PM

Where's the "rolling eyes" smiley?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:12 PM

My GAWD!! Just like an old firehorse when he hears a bell go off!

Same subject for the Umpteenth time and here he is AGAIN!!

Never misses a chance. Like I keep saying:   he's obsessed!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 11:43 PM

c'mon, gay weddings have got to be celebrations of great merriment and cheeky camp humour..

How any of the congregation can strain to keep a straight face at lines like..

"With this ring I thee wed".....


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 01:37 AM

Well, erbert, I've actually been to a couple (all in a main-stream church, incidentally, performed by the regular, ordained pastor of the church--Lutheran, incidentally--where the idea was to sanctify and solemnize the union, whether state law recognizes it or not) and they were just as serious as any hetero wedding I've ever attended. Including my own (to a woman, incidentally, just in case you're wondering). And the people attending were just as serious and respectful as any wedding congregation.

Any other kind of behavior strikes me as simply adolescent.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 02:15 AM

"Any other kind of behavior strikes me as simply adolescent."

thank you, at my age I appreciate the compliment..

I grew up with Glam Rock as my earliest cultural normative conditioning.

When I was a cute slim wavy haired student I attracted more gay admirers
than I could share make up with.

I was adopted by gays as an honorary affiliate and taken to all student city gay clubs
in the hope they might convert me or at least be my pals.

I lived in an attic studio flat with no one else but gay mates for the final 2 years of my degree..

One of my best mates for over 30 years who I cuddle every time we meet
is well.. gay..


get the message.. chill..

camp gay humour dominates UK popular culture !!!!

so put on your cowboy hat, mount your big musculy stallion

and sing out loud and proud

"Does My Ring Burn Your Finger".. one of the best country songs ever..

the morning after eating a curry.. pffff.. adolescent sniggers galore...!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why Gays Should Not Marry, Simplified
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 02:33 AM

I simply don't worry about other people's sexual choices, whatever those may be, and I hope they don't worry about mine.


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