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Assuming my real name!

GUEST 11 Jul 09 - 06:06 AM
Mooh 11 Jun 09 - 08:19 AM
Tim Leaning 10 Jun 09 - 11:33 PM
Ruth Archer 10 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM
Jeri 10 Jun 09 - 10:16 AM
The Borchester Echo 10 Jun 09 - 10:00 AM
Jeri 10 Jun 09 - 09:14 AM
Jack Campin 10 Jun 09 - 09:05 AM
Phil Edwards 10 Jun 09 - 07:24 AM
Ruth Archer 10 Jun 09 - 05:21 AM
GUEST,Chris Murray 10 Jun 09 - 05:05 AM
Phil Edwards 10 Jun 09 - 03:27 AM
Murray MacLeod 09 Jun 09 - 07:50 PM
My guru always said 08 Jun 09 - 05:40 PM
katlaughing 08 Jun 09 - 03:15 PM
Mooh 08 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM
Backwoodsman 08 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM
artbrooks 08 Jun 09 - 11:02 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 08 Jun 09 - 10:17 AM
GUEST,Neil D 08 Jun 09 - 10:06 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 08 Jun 09 - 08:33 AM
Mooh 08 Jun 09 - 08:21 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 07 Jun 09 - 12:06 PM
Leadfingers 07 Jun 09 - 11:44 AM
Barbara 07 Jun 09 - 11:27 AM
jeddy 07 Jun 09 - 09:07 AM
The Borchester Echo 07 Jun 09 - 08:07 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 07 Jun 09 - 08:06 AM
Backwoodsman 07 Jun 09 - 07:54 AM
GUEST,George Spiggott 07 Jun 09 - 07:50 AM
Tim Leaning 07 Jun 09 - 07:10 AM
Tim Leaning 07 Jun 09 - 07:07 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 07 Jun 09 - 06:39 AM
Rent-An-Archer 07 Jun 09 - 06:34 AM
Backwoodsman 07 Jun 09 - 06:29 AM
Ruth Archer 07 Jun 09 - 06:24 AM
Jack Campin 07 Jun 09 - 06:17 AM
Rent-An-Archer 07 Jun 09 - 06:15 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 07 Jun 09 - 06:14 AM
Gervase 07 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM
GUEST,Mary Brennan 07 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM
Gervase 07 Jun 09 - 06:02 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 07 Jun 09 - 06:00 AM
The Borchester Echo 07 Jun 09 - 05:57 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 07 Jun 09 - 05:49 AM
Tim Leaning 07 Jun 09 - 05:42 AM
Tim Leaning 07 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM
Backwoodsman 07 Jun 09 - 05:12 AM
jeddy 06 Jun 09 - 07:48 PM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 06 Jun 09 - 06:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 06:06 AM

I always post under my own name but there do seem to be a lot of others with the same name......

Giovanni Uest


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 08:19 AM

"Incidentally, if you change your screen name, anyone can use your previous one." [Jeri]

Which is another reason why I am hesitant to change.

Would it be wise to freeze former handles?

Peace, Mike Crocker.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:33 PM

The big brown ones
Or
The Udders?
Sorry


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM

Sorry - I missed me cows.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:16 AM

Dear BorE, I changed my name for about a half hour and posted one message a la Sir jOhn. It was just a bit of silliness, but I decided to reverse it fast enough to prevent myself looking like a complete whack job.

Thanks for letting me know you noticed.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:00 AM

Is that supposed to explain why you were masquerading as me at the weekend?
Fortunately your style was as unlike mine as it is possible to be so no-one was fooled.
I had so idea you so wanted to be me, yet am unsurprised that you fell flat on your face.

The Borchester Echo is a singularly appropriate moniker for me and, as I told Joe Offer on Sunday, I shall be using it for the foreseeable future.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:14 AM

You can use the same cookie on any number of computers, but if you use a public one, it's good to remember to log out.

Incidentally, if you change your screen name, anyone can use your previous one. If I change from 'Jeri' to 'Flipwitz' or something, another person can register as 'Jeri'.

When you play games, it makes it easier for others to do the same.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:05 AM

I'd rather not have a Mudcat cookie in a work computer and even if I did, that would require having 2 screen identities

I post from work sometimes, and using the same identity. It would worry me if there were more at stake, since the work machine uses Windows and I am NOT about to post any passwords that really matter on something so insecure. But Mudcat doesn't need my credit card details before I can post.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:24 AM

By 'eck, Ruth Archer, you weren't behind the mangle when they were handing out t' stair-rods!

(Loosely translated: another reason for using real names might be to mitigate the bafflement occasioned to Mudcat's international audience by some of our less universal in-jokes.)


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 05:21 AM

ooooh nooooo!


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 05:05 AM

I assumed it's to carry on with the Ambridge theme started by 'Ruth Archer'.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 03:27 AM

s/Easeby/Easby, but then s/Easby/Crump (fka Archer)/


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:50 PM

I am bemused, not to say confused and amused, that Miss Easeby has seen fit to change her name to THE BORCHESTER ECHO.

It does have a certain ring to it ...


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: My guru always said
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 05:40 PM

Dare I say 'Welcome Anne'? And 'Liz' too! *grin*
Hil x


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:15 PM

Mike, you'll always be "Mooh" to me!:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM

Guest, Tom Bliss... Yes, thanks, I thought of that, and I might just do it. Maybe now...

Peace, Mike Crocker (Mooh).


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM

No need for 2 cookies Neil. I log in from my home computer, from my laptop, and via our network at the office, all using the same name/cookie. Unless your employer's system has some gizmo that prevents the use of cookies?


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 11:02 AM

Actually, Neil, I think you can use the same identity cookie on multiple computers - I have automatic log-in on both my desktop and laptop, as well as my daughter's PC. Your point about using the computer at work is well-taken, though...using business computers for personal business is generally discouraged, and the sanctions for doing so can be severe.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 10:17 AM

Yes, that is a good point Neil.

That said, I'm a member of various websites that require sign-in, and I can access them on my mac at home, or on my mobile phone PDA. I don't store cookies on the phone so I have to log in every time I want to post or buy something, which can be a fiddle, but it's not really a problem. It's not two identities, just two doors into one identity.

Or people can read at work, then save up their contributions until they get home.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 10:06 AM

I'll abide by any rules the moderators set down, but here's why I'd rather not see guests be prohibited from posting. I've been a member here for close to 2 years now, but you'll notice this is a guest post.
Why is that? It's simple, I'm at work right now on a computer that doesn't belong to me. For that reason I'd rather not have a Mudcat cookie in a work computer and even if I did, that would require having 2 screen identities, something I believe IS discouraged. I've seen other members posting as guest sometimes. One regularly posts as guest using her Mudcat handle followed by "pretending to work" which is kind of cute. Others might be travelling or borrowing someone else's computer etc.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:33 AM

There is a solution you could employ today, if you wanted to, Mike.

Change your handle to "Mike Crocker (Mooh)"


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 08:21 AM

Mudcat feels like a different place than it was ten years ago when I first started visiting, at least to me. No better or worse, just different. I have posted my real name from time to time but at the dawn of my internet forum involvement I wanted some anonymity so I used my childhood nickname, Mooh.

The mandolin cafe has suggested a change to real names and I have done so. It is much more closely moderated than Mudcat.

In a perfect world...um, my perfect world...we would all use our real names rather than handles. In this my thoughts have changed over the years. However, I'm afraid of losing some identity, or rather, connection to that identity, if Mooh disappears to be replaced with my actual name.

Peace, Mike Crocker.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:06 PM

I think Guest posts offer the greatest confusion, logging on is no inconvenience that I can see. And it would deter spammers and 'GUEST, Daily Mail Readers' alike.

As stated, I'm less than keen on pressure to use ones real=world identity, as the entire anonymous world can read this forum and I don't know *their* names, or how many pickaxes they house in their sheds for that matter.

Membership required would prevent people hopping from anon post to anon post without a trace. Three different recent slightly odd uni-posting GUEST posts on VTam's daughters memorial thread (a sensitive thread), leave me feeling a bit uncomfortable on her behalf.

At least if someone has to log on, there is a context and continuity. So if they're a regular arse, you can learn to ignore. I tend to presume that many GUEST posts are too often cowardly ways of getting away with sniping and bitching, without taking responsibility for it.

Bitching *when* taking responsibility for it by using a regular handle, concerns me far less. We are grown ups after all, and I like the relaxed moderation. It's increasingly important to have spaces which allow freedom of speech - even if there are some small inevitable difficulties with it.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:44 AM

200


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:27 AM

One of the other forums I log onto lists all one's pseudonymns under your current posting name. That might not be a bad idea here. i.e.

From: Barbara
    (also posting as Wicked Vixen, Hairy Shirt, Open Book)

Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: jeddy
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:07 AM

logging on is a good idea,or rather signin g up as cookies make it so we don't have to sign in all the time.
people should not be allowed to change thier name when they have upset someone or have been told off, they should simply saysorry and move on.

i cannot agree to sensorship as anyone who visits this site will appreciate the fact that there is such a thing as free speech,here if nowhere else. on other sites i have visited they do not even let you say 'drap' which i think curtails honest and free flowing conversations.
if you met someone who swears you would be able to say "could you not swear around me please as i find it uncomfortable" so why can't the same apply here? we all need to assume personal responsability and not rely on others to tell us how to behave. x


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:07 AM

I've no idea who this oddly named Guest is but he has no authority to speak for me, especially as he is suffering from a terminal confusion over my name is. I am not a deceased ex-Royal.

The "innumerable statements passim from high profile musicians and activists" refers to what they have published recently on the incessant, treacly, smiley-spattered outpourings from the Seagull of Sidmouth.

I do not know the person (despite her frequent false allegations to the contrary). In common with others, I post corrections to some of her more outrageous and damaging lava-spewing.

As a matter of information, the Sidmouth Festival ceased to exist five years ago. The Seagull had a brief affair with Sidmouth Folk Week but now slags it off at every opportunity. As if they care . . .


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:06 AM

"The Only Folk Fan In The Village"

Lol!


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:54 AM

Absolutely on the button, Tom. There is no real reason NOT to sign up as a member, no-one is obliged to make personal information public by so doing (although some courageous ones do).

The evidence is splattered all over Mudcat (and not just amongst UK-dwellers!), it screams to be heeded and acted upon. Many of us need our wrists slapping once in a while (and I include myself), but serial-arseholes need stopping. Compulsory membership and log-in is one way - the most workable one IMHO.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,George Spiggott
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:50 AM

It means Lady Di is going on and on and on and on and on about a row that she has been having with The Only Folk Fan In The Village for almost 6 years.

Anyone wanting to study some archeology might try the various Sidmouth Folk Festival threads, where the observant may observe they have exchanged positions during the eternity it has been going on.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:10 AM

Ok so I is ignorant,What do that mean?

Sorry meant to say please on end of that..;-)


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:07 AM

Tom best of luck with new career maybe further down the road things will look up re the paid side of things.
Ms Easby


"q.v innumerable statements passim from high profile musicians and activists including Eliza Carthy, Phil Beer, Simon Care and the entire cast of The Archers, among others."

Ok so I is ignorant,What do that mean?


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:39 AM

I'm glad to hear it BW.

Just to make one point that I've not explained properly.

There seems to be a fear that if guests are only allowed to read but not post, then the forum might loose out on some valuable contributions.

I feel that this thinking belongs in a former time, when people were more resistant to logging in.

But now, so many websites require it that i feel it really is no longer a barrier. Casual guests and the occasional heavyweights who are an important feature of Mudcat, will still drop by - and log in. It only takes a minute to sign up, and we're all well used to it.

If someone has something to say, then a requirement to join will NOT be a barrier, I'm sure of it.

Yes, there might be a very small decline in guest posts, but the advantages would easily outweigh the disadvantages.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Rent-An-Archer
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:34 AM

Jennifer will sing The Village Pump. I recorded that, y'know. Way back when I was alive.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:29 AM

I agree with compulsory sign-in Tom. I also disagree with allowing 'GUEST' postings at all. Join up, or butt out, that's my philosophy. And that way, the question of people like MG reappearing as 'Guests' is ruled out. It's the way the guitar forum works, and it works!

I truly believe in stronger moderation (if that's not a Lincolnshire Daftism!), and members-only participation.

But as I said earlier, it's just MHO. Not trying to tell Max and his team how to do things, just MHO. Mudcat is as it is, and I'll carry on lurking - reading a great deal but commenting only infrequently - and (albeit reluctantly) accept the status quo. And I'm sufficiently grown-up (hell, I can even do joined-up writing!) to be able to withdraw from a thread when the Lunatics take over the Asylum.

Hey Tim, I'm much too old and knackered for libidinousness! (Not even sure I ever had a Libido, always been more of a Lowden- and Martin-man, me!). You know me, mate! :-)


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:24 AM

Oh my word! That Siobhan's back from the dead! And she's lookin' for Brian...this is startin' to sound like one of them folk songs my dad used to sing in the back room of The Bull on a Friday night...


What's Jennifer gonna say when she finds out?!


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:17 AM

To give Lizzie her due, her heart is in the right place in this one:

anti-fascist response to Daily Mail Reader


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Rent-An-Archer
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:15 AM

Brian, where've you gone?
I wannabe an Aldridge too.

(Yes, it's really easy, innit?)


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:14 AM

Note to self: suggest to Joe that name changes should be referred to mods for approval! lol


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Gervase
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM

Ignore the previous post - I was just buggering around to see how easy it was to change names. For a few giddy moments I was Brian Aldridge, but then sense got the better of me.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Mary Brennan
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM

'Tis true. She thinks the negative reaction is because she bangs on about SOH, Seth Kate, Reg and others I've forgotten.

But that isn't the reason. Personally, I like her enthusiasm.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Gervase
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:02 AM

Now who on earth is complaining that this is becoming a soap opera? Some of us are far too busy to worry about things like that.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:00 AM

Woah - Tim, Lad - this is NOT to suit me! Lawks a mercy!!

This is for the benefit of mudcat itself and, in particular, the UK folk scene.

I'm leaving this game soon, and you won't see much of me around here from a few months time - I'll be way too busy doing other things, and will merely pop in as a casual folk fan, like lots of others. (Actually I'm not sure how much time I'll have, I enjoy coming here and do hope to be around when possible).

I'm doing this purely because I know a lot of people think it needs to be done, but not many are willing or able to stick their necks out.

This is only one of a number of issues I'm pursuing, which all started because I felt they were creating negative PR for the UK folk scene, and therefore - in some small part, perhaps - on my small business: Smooth Operations, PRS and various others are all in the frame.

Call me a trouble-maker, but I can handle that. It's just what I do.

Yes, I might have been a UK mod if asked, and available, but I never was available (spent far too much time out on the road, or in Alderney with patchy internet connection), and I'm certainly not going to be reliably available in the future. So thanks but no thanks.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:57 AM


What is it about MS Cornish that evokes such a negative reaction?


Inane airheadedness, inability or incapacity to grasp the basic essentials of musical theory and training (nor indeed any education), irrational hatred of the EFDSS and fRoots and overall tediousness detrimental to the music's image and that of its exponents.

q.v innumerable statements passim from high profile musicians and activists including Eliza Carthy, Phil Beer, Simon Care and the entire cast of The Archers, among others.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:49 AM

So can I take it from your post, Backwoodsman, that you might agree that compulsory sign-in (as per your guitar-forum) might help a bit - (accepting, as I do, your preference for continued anonymity)?

I wouldn't want to see that one-strike policy here. It would indeed be too big a change from what makes Mudcat special. I'm only talking about changing the moderation policy by a few degrees, but to achieve that mods need the technical tools to react quickly and effectively when than they can now, so minimising the damage.

It's the speed of reaction, and the message that sends to everyone else, that is important, rather than the outcome for the individual concerned.

Do you see any merit in my argument that the fact that people can continue to post as guests (under a different name - does Mr MS, do we know?) even if excluded, diminishes the threat of exclusion?


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:42 AM

Tom
I do respect your views.
I also think they would carry more weight if you were interested enough in mudcat as it exists,
To commit to being a member
Rather than as now
asking for it to be changed to suit you.
Was there a slight sense maybe that if there is a Uk moderators job going you would maybe consider that if the pay and conditions were right?
Lol
Chill mate
exasperated
Tim

Ms Easby
What is it about MS Cornish that evokes such a negative reaction?


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM

"Maybe they already do, Tom. Maybe the Mudcat Arseholes are also Real Life Arseholes? If that's the case, they'd still behave like Arseholes under their real names (as indeed some already might do). Or maybe some are very nice, quiet people in real life, who have a deep-seated anger burning in them which they use this forum as a means of quenching from time to time? Or maybe they're just argumentative bastards who don't know when they're beaten? Or maybe they have mental or psycholgical illnesses - Aspergers, Autism, whatever? Or maybe they just hate men? Or maybe they just enjoy behaving the way they do? It's a big world, takes all sorts."

Hey I don't hate men!
You are being libidinous.


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:12 AM

"Again, it's about sending a message that people should behave here as they would in real life."

Maybe they already do, Tom. Maybe the Mudcat Arseholes are also Real Life Arseholes? If that's the case, they'd still behave like Arseholes under their real names (as indeed some already might do). Or maybe some are very nice, quiet people in real life, who have a deep-seated anger burning in them which they use this forum as a means of quenching from time to time? Or maybe they're just argumentative bastards who don't know when they're beaten? Or maybe they have mental or psycholgical illnesses - Aspergers, Autism, whatever? Or maybe they just hate men? Or maybe they just enjoy behaving the way they do? It's a big world, takes all sorts.

The point I'm trying to make is that there are people who will not, or cannotfor whatever reason, control themselves, and who totally fail to understand the line between robust discussion and unnacceptable abusive (sometimes even libellous) behaviour, even when asked by other members and moderators to behave properly, and using 'Real Names' won't make a ha'porth of difference. The only answer is to cut the serial-offenders out, IMHO. 'Martin Gibson' (who made our current crop look like cute, lovable, fluffy little kittens) was the classic example - worked with him.

I post on a guitar-forum (under a different handle) which is very strictly moderated - active participation and robust discussion are encouraged but abuse, foul language, threats, harrassment and ill-temper are not tolerated, you get one public warning and second strike you're out, permanently. It makes for a much pleasanter and informative place, and I post much more often on there than on Mudcat because of it.

However, this forum is as it is, and I guess I'll continue to lurk around as I do - reading a lot, laughing a lot (sometimes in amusement, sometimes in total disbelief at the moronic stuff I'm reading), tossing in an opinion in from time to time and ducking as the excrement flies past my ear.

But it won't be as The Real Me, Tom. No way, Josie. :-)


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: jeddy
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 07:48 PM

there is one problem that i think on one has taken into account as regards the ' abuse' on here, does it occur to anyone else, that while someone might write something that others find offensive,to the person writing and possibly to the one is is aimed at, that they might actually know each other and they are being sarcastic to one another?

you might read it completely the wrong way, trust me i have done it, it is easy to misunderstand becuase we cannot see facial expressions or hear the sarcastic tone of voice. my advice would be to let people sort it out between themselves, the mods do a fantastic job and have patiance and understanding of the regulars humor.

i gave my real name purely incase anyone on here does know me, so they know when i write something how it is meant to be taken, no other reason,maybe a bit of self importancebut we are all guilty of that otherwise we would never post anything!!!

sorry if i have banged on a bit,i think i was on a roll!!! LOL x x


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Subject: RE: Assuming my real name!
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 06:34 PM

"You have couched your argument under the umbrella of it being helpful to the Mudcat management. But Joe Offer has said further up the thread that people are welcome to post under whatever name they like, so long as it's consistent. So whose agenda are you really working to?"

My agenda is the diminution of what is reckoned by many in the UK folk scene to be a major and growing problem. (I've canvassed opinons on this, just as I have on many other issues that I think are important).

You see, this is my old day-job. I have a long history of advising large corporate managements about communications issues, on a professional basis, and I have a long history of saying things people don't necessarily want to hear. And some history of effecting some unexpected improvements by use of carefully reasoned arguments. (Quite a few in the folk world, too, actually).

There are two different but related points I'm making here, please let's not get them muddled up.

1) LOG IN

"Very few message boards require you to have an account to read the posts"

Hang on a mo - I'm suggesting that everyone should be required to log in to POST (not to read, goodness me - that WOULD be a VERY bad idea)!! This would, I believe, help the team - because it would remove the Un-Moddable Guest problem, while helping to change the character of the site in a subtle way; reducing confusion, sock puppetry, guest trolling and so on, and so promote a calmer, more generous atmosphere, which should benefit all users, who are all now members. And IF the team did want to ban someone they could do so properly - which they can't, easily, now.

Knowing you can always continue as a Guest removes the need for members to think before they post. There's no threat of exclusion at the moment, and I believe that's one of the key reasons that some people behave so badly so often.

As Paul says, and as I've said above, some of the worst offenders are members. But why do they feel they can get away with it? Because they so often do. A firmer hand on the tiller would be a benign influence. It's not a major change, it's commonplace on other forums, and it sends a crucial message about what the community expects (one that is conspicuous by its absence now).

Joe may not be convinced of this at the moment, but I'm hoping to change his and Max's minds (in case you haven't twigged I write here on this topic as much for them as for you dear readers).

(And I do write to them direct as well, of course).

2) REAL NAMES

I'm not suggesting that this should be compulsory, and I've explained why. I just think real names should be encouraged, specially for people in positions of power, for the reasons I've given. Again, it's about sending a message that people should behave here as they would in real life.

Yes, the team seem happy with the status quo on this as well. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't suggest changes if we believe, as I do, that they will make this website stronger by minimising unpleasantness and so allowing more people to post more freely (a lot of people have gone away thanks to the fighting), and so make it more useful to the wider folk community and an unqualified benefit rather than a potential problem.


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