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Tankards

Liz the Squeak 09 Sep 08 - 03:40 AM
Micca 09 Sep 08 - 04:27 AM
Liz the Squeak 09 Sep 08 - 04:30 AM
Micca 09 Sep 08 - 04:37 AM
The Fooles Troupe 09 Sep 08 - 04:44 AM
Jim Lad 09 Sep 08 - 05:00 AM
Manitas_at_home 09 Sep 08 - 05:04 AM
Jack Blandiver 09 Sep 08 - 05:08 AM
danensis 09 Sep 08 - 06:03 AM
Manitas_at_home 09 Sep 08 - 06:06 AM
melodeonboy 09 Sep 08 - 06:33 AM
Will Fly 09 Sep 08 - 06:34 AM
GUEST 09 Sep 08 - 08:18 AM
Mr Red 09 Sep 08 - 08:28 AM
Liz the Squeak 09 Sep 08 - 08:37 AM
doncatterall 09 Sep 08 - 08:39 AM
GUEST,Dazbo at work 09 Sep 08 - 10:13 AM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Sep 08 - 10:44 AM
Emma B 09 Sep 08 - 11:13 AM
Jim Lad 09 Sep 08 - 11:22 AM
Paul Burke 09 Sep 08 - 11:55 AM
Rumncoke 09 Sep 08 - 11:59 AM
My guru always said 09 Sep 08 - 01:35 PM
lady penelope 09 Sep 08 - 04:18 PM
Gurney 10 Sep 08 - 02:50 AM
Mr Red 10 Sep 08 - 03:18 AM
Mrs.Duck 10 Sep 08 - 03:13 PM
Bill D 10 Sep 08 - 04:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 03:40 AM

Drink enough of that Devon cider and everyone gets bodily imbalances!

Stick to the good stuff. Not for nothing did Dorset have 5 breweries!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Micca
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 04:27 AM

Oh Yeah Liz? I agree with the High standard of beer in Dorset, Palmers, Eldridge Pope, Badger ales!! oh yes!! but Dorset has its Dark side too. I remember a certain Pub in Charmouth that had a certain (alleged) Cider that was called on their "advertising material" ( a piece of a cornflakes packet thumbtacked to the bar surround) that proclaimed "Agaracultural wine 1/4d a pint" and it was Greeny-yellow and opaque and was as gentle as a mothers kiss, if your Mother happended to be a 30 ton locomotive travelling at 60mph, it devastated the Fossil hunters I was with one Lunch time!!


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 04:30 AM

I'm pretty sure that was Swyre. They'm funny there too... too close to the border.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Micca
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 04:37 AM

Liz, Swyre had the SAME stuff, from the same "source" ( I suspect, a local Farm) in the evening which helped the whole day sink into Oblivion in a haze of Raucous singing of Bawdy songs and general mayhem. Now I am not sure even Stainless steel would have stood up to that, It was about the strength AFAIR of that "Sloe Cider" you had at Winterbourne!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 04:44 AM

I'm not to sure that we could get away with tankards in Aussie pubs - The licensing bods want each drink served in a clean glass, and pubs have to have glass washing machines.

I have used mine however in medieval recreations for personal supplies. My favourite however, was a turned wooden one - they sometimes were sold as 'wooden mortars', but this one was intended as a drinking vessel.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 05:00 AM

Having ones own glass or tankard hanging above the gantry was basically abolished when it became evident to health authorities that bar staff were not cleaning them properly between pours.
The dirty tankard would often touch the tap.
Like double dipping you might say.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 05:04 AM

No problem there, it's common in England to purchase a glass of beer so you know you're getting a standard measure and decant it into your own tankard. Some nice bar staff even offer to wash your pot for you.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 05:08 AM

For another thread on this most perplexing subject:

Folkore: Pewtar Tankards


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: danensis
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 06:03 AM

Interestingly pubs are no longer supposed to refill used glasses where the sparkler is immersed in the drink (or where the landlord chucks the slops back in the 'mild' barrel!). So do they draw a pint in a glass, and then pour it into the tankard?

John


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 06:06 AM

I always thought it unhygenic to immerse the sparkler in the glass anyway, do you ever see anyone wipe it before or after?


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: melodeonboy
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 06:33 AM

Sparklers? I didn't know it was already Guy Fawkes' Night! And why would you want to put one in a pint of beer? That's just spoiling the fun for the kids!


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Will Fly
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 06:34 AM

Would the beer be mulled if you put a sparkler in it?


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 08:18 AM

Jumpin on board this thread,,,,,

My faithful old georgian Tankard that I supped from for topside of 30 years, was nicked from my car some time back. Although I have been very ill in between and am now teetotal for medical reasons I should very much like to be re-united with it.

It carries the makers touchmark of three saracen swords above each other and has a chased inscription of :-

"IW Kemp
The Crown
Narrow Street
Limehouse

If anybody spots it, please send me a message.

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 08:28 AM

Pewter ain't pewter no more. What we now call pewter is Brittania Metal (Tin & Antimony). It does mean that brews (particularly cider) don't leach lead salts from the oxidised surfaces. Has been law for more than 35 years according to one tankard man. But older tankards - you just don't know.

Leather has the disadvantage that it can take the knocks but it does crack the tar inside.

Pewter has the advantage that you can knock the bottom down and gain volume - though most landlords are savvy to that - not all bar persons though.

I personally used two stainless steel ones because they have less taste on the cider and Antimony is also a toxin - but maybe as an alloy it does not oxidise readily and is not "as" toxic as lead - but I ain't takin no chances. Thankyou.

The other advantage of tankards is that they don't get "cleaned up" when half empty while you are busy being a musician (or singist etc).


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 08:37 AM

Manitas - what are you doing at home? I'm there, you can't be!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: doncatterall
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 08:39 AM

Once had a tankard given to me in the Commercial in Uppermill one Rushcart weekend (having disected mine under the wheels of the car!!!).

It was inscribed "Darts and Snooker Champion Diggle Band Club 1970" and gave me years of faithful service.

Put it on top of a fruit machine in the Balfour in Sidmouth many years later and, needless to say, it had disappeared when I went back for it.

Where is it now and can the bloke who took it please replace the half pint of IPA that was in it.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 10:13 AM

Ron O, the pewter makes your beer taste horrible because it is a good transmitter of heat, so the beer warms up quickly and you can taste it. So what you are getting is the true taste of the beer :)


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 10:44 AM

Dazbo, trust me, I know the true taste of beer, and the style that you refer to as "real" ale.   Contrary to your sterotyped images, we do not drink all beer ice cold.

The pewter, from the tankards I've used, adds a metalic taste that masks the hops and barley and all the notes that are created. If you drink the same beer in a glass, or even plastic or ceramic, you do not have the extra addition.

You might have a product that differs from what passes as a pewter tankard in the U.S., which is what I am trying to find out.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Emma B
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 11:13 AM

One of my unexpected delights in visiting the Montana/Wyoming area earlier this year, apart from the beautiful prarie flowers, was the availability of a wide choice of wonderful beers and microbreweries.

I don't know what your tankards are like unfortunately Ron as I was frequently served my beer out of a glass preserving jar :)

Perhaps one of the 'differences' over here is that it simply doesn't stay long enough in the tankard :)


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 11:22 AM

Still like my beer warm.
Tastes like beer that way.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Paul Burke
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 11:55 AM

Shuffling this below the line is clearly showing disrespect to an integral part of English folk culture. Is it 'cos I's black?


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Rumncoke
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 11:59 AM

I have a haunted tankard - it was presented to one Captain E J Dyer, RAOC as runner up prize in a AOC handicap snooker competition in 1941

Sixty years later it was in a charity shop, and now I find that even if I am only drinking water out of it, the ghosts of all the previous alcoholic beverages contrive to put their fluence on me.

For anything acidic I have a stainless steel tankard, me being the daughter of a union man at Sammy Foxes Steel Works in Sheffield in the 60's, but it has no soul. Water is just water.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: My guru always said
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 01:35 PM

Think this Pewter vs Glass taste thing deserves to be checked, not that I dispute anything stated here. I'm going to a major UK Beer Festival (Woking) in November with friends, so I think we'll run some tests.... *grin*


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: lady penelope
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 04:18 PM

I reckon the funny taste is 'cos most people don't clean their tankards properly...and in quite a few cases...at all!!!


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Gurney
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:50 AM

I have a few tankards from when I collected them. A couple of interesting ones: A half-pint glass-bottomed with 'Poison' etched into the coloured glass bottom, and a pint, solid, heavy copper one from Zimbabwe. Actually, from Rhodesia. I suspect it is a fighting tankard, as I certainly wouldn't want to be hit with it.


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:18 AM

A copper Tankard? I thought police were not allowed to drink on duty.

I'll get my cape...............


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:13 PM

If Geoff didn't have a tankard where would the Duck live?


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Subject: RE: Tankards
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 04:44 PM

Here is my collection of mugs/tankards/steins..etc. used only for beer.

2 leather, 4 turned wood which I made, and various ceramic/glass commercial things. The leather & wood often travel....

and one which I made, which was my son's Xmas present last year (When he goes to RenFaire, folks try to buy it from him.)(it holds 35oz.)
It is made from a piece of "Southern Prickly Ash" or "Toothache Tree" from the southern US. All the wooden ones have plastic liners of some form of plastic used to make drinking bottles. Never had any problem with taste any more than the brewer's pitch used to coat the leather ones.


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