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Whitby and the golden egg

GUEST,Joe G 30 Aug 08 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,c.g. 30 Aug 08 - 11:02 AM
John MacKenzie 29 Aug 08 - 11:04 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 29 Aug 08 - 10:45 AM
rodentred 29 Aug 08 - 06:48 AM
John Routledge 28 Aug 08 - 09:53 AM
Jean(eanjay) 28 Aug 08 - 08:56 AM
ossonflags 28 Aug 08 - 06:11 AM
Jack Campin 28 Aug 08 - 06:05 AM
early 27 Aug 08 - 08:45 PM
Watt Tyler 27 Aug 08 - 12:59 PM
Tyke 27 Aug 08 - 07:28 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 27 Aug 08 - 07:02 AM
Ruth Archer 27 Aug 08 - 04:52 AM
Betsy 26 Aug 08 - 07:10 PM
r.padgett 26 Aug 08 - 01:45 PM
Ruth Archer 26 Aug 08 - 01:15 PM
John MacKenzie 26 Aug 08 - 12:13 PM
Ruth Archer 26 Aug 08 - 11:19 AM
John MacKenzie 26 Aug 08 - 10:25 AM
Raggytash 26 Aug 08 - 09:39 AM
Kelk Brigade 25 Aug 08 - 11:29 AM
r.padgett 25 Aug 08 - 11:28 AM
Tyke 25 Aug 08 - 11:00 AM
dick greenhaus 25 Aug 08 - 10:06 AM
Hoblander 25 Aug 08 - 08:09 AM
r.padgett 25 Aug 08 - 03:50 AM
Mo the caller 25 Aug 08 - 02:19 AM
Tyke 24 Aug 08 - 10:03 AM
r.padgett 24 Aug 08 - 09:55 AM
GUEST,Mike O'Leary-Johns 24 Aug 08 - 07:10 AM
peregrina 24 Aug 08 - 07:08 AM
Cath 24 Aug 08 - 05:48 AM
selby 24 Aug 08 - 03:49 AM
Betsy 23 Aug 08 - 09:24 PM
r.padgett 23 Aug 08 - 01:02 PM
GUEST,Dave_ 23 Aug 08 - 11:33 AM
Dave Hanson 23 Aug 08 - 09:56 AM
le cheffie 23 Aug 08 - 05:34 AM
Tyke 23 Aug 08 - 04:10 AM
nutty 23 Aug 08 - 03:55 AM
Tyke 22 Aug 08 - 11:32 PM
Betsy 22 Aug 08 - 04:21 PM
Tyke 22 Aug 08 - 03:51 PM
Joe Offer 22 Aug 08 - 02:59 PM
Tyke 22 Aug 08 - 02:31 PM
GUEST,Cliff 22 Aug 08 - 11:58 AM
Tyke 22 Aug 08 - 11:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 11:58 AM

In response to Cath's comment re Musicport moving to Brid, I am a regular attendee at this tremendous festival and I think the reasons for moving were more than purely financial. I do not know the whole story but I believe that Musicport were trying to develop an additional venue in Whitby but this did not work out (after considerable time and expense). This coincided with the redevloment of Brid spa who presumably made Musicport an offer they could not refuse to move to this new venue which will presumably offer more space and comfort than the Whitby Spa. I will desperately miss going to Whitby for Musicport as the service and atmosphere at the spa were tremendous but hopefully the new venue will offer the same but with more seats!

Luckily this year I will be returning to the New Year sessios at Whitby after a break of more years than I would have wished so hopefully I will see many of you there.

I'm glad Jim corrected the statement that Wetherspoons buy their beer at the last minute just before it goes off. This must be the most irritating modern myth going round at the moment presumably started by some bright spark at a rival pubco's marketing dept. Wetherspoons has its faults but in some places it is the only pub where you have a reasonable chance of getting a decent pint in pleasantish surroundings.

Cheers from sunny (ha ha) Bradford!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,c.g.
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 11:02 AM

"can someone please tell me one pub/ town based festival where pubs actually change their pricing policy for a festival"

Sidmouth.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:04 AM

Shut up, and drink your beer!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:45 AM

Watt, If it's any consolation I rarely drink beer and even less speak about it ........................... I prefer Guinness or Cider


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: rodentred
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 06:48 AM

Well just back from Towersey and the beer there was £2.90 or £3.00 so it makes Whitby look cheap I guess (with the exception of the bottle of Black Sheep I got in the yacht club that they charged me £3.15 for).

Tried the takeaway fish and chips from the Magpie and very nice they were as well.

Great singarounds in the Station, and so much better now the room is smoke free.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: John Routledge
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 09:53 AM

To get Whitby prices into perspective the YHA hostel beside the Abbey (199 steps) charges £22.95p per person per night in a dorm. This includes breakfast which can be good, no chores and 24 Hr access!!

Space available 2009 Folk Week ...........end of Advert


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 08:56 AM

We're still here. The weather is beautiful today. I had to go down to the sorting office to collect the 3 auction CDs that Reggie Miles sent me here so we had a late breakfast in Arbut's cafe [as recommended by Eileen knowles :-) ]. I really enjoyed it and it was good value too.

The bonus was that the pay machine at the Skinner Street parking lot was not working so we got free parking.

I love Whitby.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: ossonflags
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 06:11 AM

Going up on Friday Betsy


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 06:05 AM

> Just got back from Whitby this afternoon.
> Beer prices are stupid, we won't be going again, can't afford (as pensioners) to do so.
> Petrol prices, fish & chips, and beer are prohibitive.
: Just back from Whitby & must admit the prices are HIGH. [...]
: Parking £6.50
: Only visited 1 day as with wife & child it is beyond my resources.

Both of you can afford to run CARS and you're moaning about paying normal city centre prices for a pint? Some kind of hard up that is.

Sell the fucking motor and get a life.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: early
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 08:45 PM

I know quite a few folk festival goers who never got a ticket and limited their activities to the pubs and fringe events. the policy of limiting camping to season ticket holders and stewards without the second campsite which was open to all at a reasonable cost has I feel had an impact on numbers attending over the last few years, not to mention the loss of the plough as the hub of the fringe. those pubs which always had music are much the same as before but I managed to walk round the town on Saturday without seeing too many festival goers and in years gone by that was pretty much impossible to do


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Watt Tyler
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 12:59 PM

Why do men on Mudcat only talk about beer! So very sad!

Watt


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:28 AM

firkin the pubco's are firkin everyone! Hic!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 07:02 AM

Just an update re prices it's been £2.40 - £2.60 in the pubs in Shrewsbury, £2.60 on site. Also talking to a local Whitby lad re wholesale prices of beer you can get discounts and pay £60 for a 9 gallon barrell (72 pints) but pubs like the Endeavor are forced to pay upwards of £120 for the same beer !!! One of the pubco's approached a local relatively successfull brewery said they would have all they could brew at full capacity but quoted what they would pay the brewery owner said if he had accepted they would have gone bust !!!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 27 Aug 08 - 04:52 AM

"Love your comments Ruth but Im with John McKenzie on THATone !!!"

Well, intriguingly, some twenty-something Whitby Folk Week attenders have just posted their festival pictures on Facebook,which also include photos of taking cocktails at the Marine!

Maybe the nice thing about a place like Whitby is that you can get a good pint at a reasonable price (anything under £3 is reasonable these days, IMHO) at a proper pub like the Station, or have an afternoon of posh cocktails - and pretty much anything in between! My daughter is especially fond of the chocolate coffins from Justin's sweet shop, as it happens...

There will always be folkies who bring along their own placcy box of sarnies and a flask of coffee to a festival - but there are also folkies who look at festivals as their hols and like to push the boat out a bit. Surely it's not another world - just different parts of the same one.

I have a friend who lives in Whitby, so I visit a few times each year. I think it's one of the most vibrant towns in England, with a colourful range of people and unique little businesses, and a wonderful village-y feel - everyone seems to know everyone else. Moreover, everyone seems to accept everyone else exactly as they are. It is a great environment for a folk festival.

I wouldn't change it for the world. Another marguerita and a plate of oysters, barman!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Betsy
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 07:10 PM

Love your comments Ruth but Im with John McKenzie on THATone !!!
Maybe Dick Greenhaus showed me the way - not once did he mention a Pub, they were all Clubs ,and as most of us know clubs have a different pricing regime for all sorts of reasons ,mostly the Breweries are not able to screw the Clubs. The Clubs would simply tell them to F8ck off which a Pub landlord almost certainly cannot do.
I have no doubt in my mind that loads of Pubs in Whitby are selling good class beer at sensible prices, I just get the feeling ....Oh shit I'm going round in circles.
Thanks for well mannered,and informed opinions - I was bit embarrassed about raising the Subject , but I'm glad to have aired it got it of my chest - it was bugging me. I note that on another thread everyone seems to have enjoyed themselves at Whitby 2008 (barring some of the weather)and I hope you are all looking forward to Whitby 2009.
Ossonflags might see ya at the Black Bull bender

Cheers Betsy


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: r.padgett
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 01:45 PM

Sheesh

us bus passed it gets harder to afford all this!

Joking of course!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 01:15 PM

But...I was there for Whitby FF too!

For the record, the meal at Green's on the Friday evening was rather fab as well. As was the fish and chips at Trenchers.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 12:13 PM

Wrong world


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 11:19 AM

I paid around £7 a time for cocktails in the Marine Hotel Bar. Excellent they were, too, as was the seafood tempura.

I recommend the chocolate martinis.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 10:25 AM

Theakston's Dark £1 65 a pint in the Conservative Club.
Deuchar's is a good beer, and expensive too in most places, £2 90 here in the wilds of highland Scotland.
Time was that beer in an off licence was a couple of pence cheaper than beer bought in the pub.
It's not the off sales prices that have gone up is it?

JM


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 09:39 AM

Ray, I think I would be correct to say that the RNLI do not want to be a government institution, there is enough bureaucracy already without having civil service and government involvement


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Kelk Brigade
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:29 AM

Moan, moan, moan, bloody moan, can someone please tell me one pub/ town based festival where pubs actually change their pricing policy for a festival? No! you are simply paying the going rate in the area the same as the locals pay all year.
OK Green field festivals charge what they like, some cheap but most are more expensive. The gripe about soft drinks is legitimate and landlords / tenants / managers should be careful in this respect as all customers regular and transient resent being ripped off in this way.
Paid £ 4.00 for a pint of Guinness in a town centre before now so don't think Whitby is at all exorbitant and the beer is much better kept.
Witherspoons, might be cheap but never had a decent pint in one yet, breakfasts usually good value though!
As for the food well you can all see the price list before ordering, and Whitby is no better and no worse than any other place. Personally a superb fish, mushy peas and a rake of chips for less than a fiver represents good value to me, especially taking into account the frozen reconstituted shite that you get inland for well over a fiver in many places, cooked in fat that probably once ran a small car, or does it just taste that way normally??
Bearing in mind that most people have a week of FREE entertainment what's the bloody problem?
Peter.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:28 AM

Thank you George!

Glad you and Susan enjoyed the festival Dick, you know where the best prices are!

Good to see you again Kev and that good amount received/collected from festival goers for the Lifeboat ~ what a government/governments to not maintain lifeboats out of the public purse!! yee gods and we talk about beer prices!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:00 AM

Mo the caller, I was referring mainly to public houses in general. It's just wrong for the Breweries and Landlord to set high prices for none alcoholic drinks. To charge the same price and more for a soft drink that has not anywhere near the same TAX to pay back to Customs and Excise.

I know nothing of the costs involved in hiring most of the Festival Venues or the cost of staffing them. That said there cost and charges must take into account the amount of money that they will take over the bar. That's my way of saying if they don't take money over the bar at events they will have to charge more for the room next year.

The Whitby Folk Club who meets each Thursday at the Friendship Rowing Club once again put on a special night in Folk Week to raise funds for the RNLB, which was added to the money already raised in the Endeavour by Jim and Graham. The Whitby Folk Club moved themselves upstairs into the large concert room for this event. The Bar Staff who worked behind the bar are Member of the Friendship Rowing Club and did so as volunteers. The facilities at the Whitby Friendship Rowing Club where and are superb. The members I meet lived up to the name of the Club and the Beer that I imbibed in, that night was, Tetley's Imperial at £2.05 a pint was well kept and very drinkable.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 10:06 AM

There seems to be at least two Whitby Folk Weeks. The pubs may well be pricey, but Susan and I got season tickets, and spent all our time at organized events. Prices, even for those of us who are spoiled by US prices and devastated by the falling dollar, weren't too bad at places like the Conservative Club, the Rifle Club and the Football club. Beer was typically £1.80, with specials like Theakstons a bit less; sandwiches were £2 or so.

We had cooked of our dinners ourselves in our cottage, which admittedly made a considerable difference.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Hoblander
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 08:09 AM

I thought I'd stick me oar in. I had a fantastic week at Whitby, lost me voice, won the worst taste shirt competition , won two tickets to Bedworth, and took part in Maypoles to Mistletoe production, had a great time in the shanty sessions, and the Mick McGarry sessions. The lad deserves a gong as big as a dustbin lid. His sess should have finished at 8 each night but he just kept going, finishing at 10.30 on Friday.
The shanty sessions and Mick haywoods night raised £1532 for the lifeboats.
Regarding prices, well hell if you can't spend some money and enjoy youself then don't go. Yea prices are a bit high. When the euro was introduce in Spain the price of a glass of beer went from less than 1000 pesatas to 1 euro overnight. Doubled. If any of us were running a business in Whitby, would we charge the going rate? Apparently the lease for the Fleece is up for 140k plus 1k to the brewery every week.
For anybody that's interested it's the Black Bull Bender this weekend at Jim and Mu Wilkinson's farm at Tranmire , just off the A171 Whitby Moor Road. Beer at about £2, home made sarnies £1.50, breakfast for £3, admission for whole 5 sessions £7. Free camping and vanning. Just up your street Betsy.
Kev Hall


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 03:50 AM

Good point regarding drinks when you have paid for an expensive ticket and clearly penny pinching is correct when money is tight and where you may have a large young family!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Mo the caller
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 02:19 AM

Our friends went to Sidmouth, we went to Whitby. Our flat seemed much better value for money (no I'm not telling you where we stayed, I don't want anyone sneaking in and booking 2010). Years ago when we had holidays in Torbay and N. Yorkshire we always noticed how much cheaper things like ice-cream were in the NE.
The ice cream further up the thread for over £2 must have been an exception, we didn't pay that much even down in the harbour - organic farmhouse ice-cream in Sandsend car park was £2, but you could get cheaper by walking a few yards, so you pay for quality and location. Also we looked at the price of kids fishing nets £1.50 in the harbour, £1 half way up the Kyber pass, 75p up by the West Cliff paddling pool - economic theory is working out as expected.

Tyke says "But don't expect to sit there taking up space for free all night whilst not spending any money." But I've paid for my season ticket and if an event is in the programme I feel entitled to attend without an extra change. (yes, I often do want a drink as well and buy one). What arrangement the provider of the premises has made with the festival is not my concern.

Where were all the collecting tin rattlers this year?


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 10:03 AM

I nearly witnessed Ray drinking more that just a pint of water as he lead the Wibberly Wobberly Walking prade back to the camp site at Holmfirth F F. Furtunatly I directed him away from the river!

My view is that pubs should serve soft drinks at reasonable prices most are charging more that the cost of Beer for Lemonaid if they don't then no Licence! Tap water and soda water should be free! But don't expect to sit there taking up space for free all night whilst not spending any money. Its your choice if you wish to pay for expencive bottled water!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 09:55 AM

Nice one Michael!!

Water is needed from time to time to rehydrate

I am not saying that people should order free water! just that it can be essential for those drinking a lot of alcohol which is why the Scots have this right!

I won't even mention the extortionate cost of Coke and the extra cost of Diet and sugar free Coke (essential for diabetics and there are millions of us as well as those who don't know they are),

shame o shame on you money grabbing publicans, they are taking their pound of flesh and I have NO sympathy for the need to make money for the Beer companies in the summer season!

Ray

ps Nice to see you Michael sorry didn't make Saltburn

Mick McGarry did his usual sterling job as MC


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Mike O'Leary-Johns
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 07:10 AM

RAY I NOW KNOW I MUST COME BACK TO WHIBY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I MUST SEE YOU ORDERING A PINT of WATER>>>>>>>>>>>
                      AND DRINKING IT...........MIKE



PS I had A great time at Whitby.........


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Subject: RE: Whitby-tough life for shops?
From: peregrina
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 07:08 AM

OK, I am not defending the beer prices, but I do want to say that I have the impression that it's a really tough living for businesses in Whitby. Quite a few empty shop fronts even on the main streets.

(I am very glad Whitby's not a place of Starbucks, McDonalds and Travel Lodge. I read the news that Travel Lodge wants to start a hotel there with mixed feelings. But I think it doesn't have many big chains because it's simply not prosperous enough.)

A few years back I got what must have been the last free room in Whitby. In a hotel. Quite a bit costlier than a B&B. You might say--the owners will be raking it in at that price. I thought that at first, but came to doubt it. When I came back late afternoon on departure day, I asked for a loo and was directed to the one in the proprietor's place in the hotel. Just one room they had, no fancier than a regular one, the facilities even a little less 'updated' than the room I'd stayed in.

If you've seen local newsagents close where you live because people buy in big out-of-town shops, or if the milkman stops making rounds because people prefer cheaper supermarket milk... well that's the world that comes when everyone's out to maximize profit and savings. Now I don't know the ins and outs of beer price hikes, and like I said, I don't want to defend or attack them, but I suspect there's a story on the other side too, especially in this credit crunch.

Hard times, hard times, come again no more.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Cath
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 05:48 AM

Mention of Brid reminds me that I have just been told that the Musicport Festival that was happening in Whitby is now relocated to Bridlington. I can't remember the exact reason but I think it was something to do with the cost of hiring the Spa - I'm sure someone here will know.
Cath


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: selby
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 03:49 AM

Whilst on about pub prices my 2 gripes. One of the pubs we went in never charged the same amount twice at the begining of the week, until we copied the price list and worked out how much a round should be, they twigged what we was doing and never had any problems after that, but very cheeky.

How did Scarbrough Council allow the Spa to run out of beer on Friday night it is not as though this is the first whitby ever.

Trying not to be controvertial I think the original question has some merit and that even the organising commitee of Whitby has a bit of input into that sentiment to the people of Whitby, like Raggytash earlier I thought it a bit quieter than normal in the present economic climate all of us are not bottomless money pits and ultimately people vote with their wallets and their feet and I for one would be sad to loose Whitby but I have a strong urge to go to Shrewsbury and Towersley where I have never been,as we have been going to Whitby for 30 years. Whatever the sentiments about summer seasons etc have a trip down the coast to Bridlington and I think you will agree Whitby is not doing to bad.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Betsy
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 09:24 PM

Hiya Padge ,
I'm not getting upset about pubs charging for water in the sense that if they provide (say) a pint they charge a nominal amount for collecting, ,and cleaning the glass say 25p , but a Quid is out of order,especially when you think of drivers , non drinkers, and drinkers who simply need a break / need to re-hydrate.
I had a conversation tonight in my local about this subject, and apparently the Fishermans club enjoys Pints from £1.30-ish a pint, and, to cut and paste your comment "Conservative Club, Rifle Club and I think Cask in The Yacht Club at about £1.92 pp " seems sensibly cheap.
We don't want to necessarily have rock-bottom prices but ,the point is starting to emerge that Whitby is charging top bobs at the places where " Folk " meet to play sing and dance.
Maybe the time has come to say (and let people know through Mudcat and the like) to such places WE are doing YOU a favour,so back-off with your prices hike or we will establish different pubs in which to congregate, and, that we survived without the i.e. Plough and we'll survive without YOU.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: r.padgett
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 01:02 PM

Many points clearly valid on cost of food and drink

Cheapest drinks in the clubs of course, Conservative Club, Rifle Club and I think Cask in The Yacht Club at about £1.92 pp ~ John's and Tetley Smooth more expensive

I am VERY annoyed about the fact that you had to pay anything for TAP WATER ~ a personal gripe

Scottish Law has I found the very statement that Tap Water MUST be supplied on request in Clubs

I find that to ask for ANY money for Tap Water an insult and pennypinching

The pubs must not be permitted to get away with this, and all attempts to foist bottled water MUST be repelled!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Dave_
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 11:33 AM

just stopping off in York At my fiends after getting back from Whitby, my wife and I were there for the full shift, friday to friday.
3 quid for a pint of guinness in the Ship, which is my folk week local, 2.35 for same pint in the fishermans, was a good pint in both, so happy with that.
Fish and chips were nice everywhere, average we paid was 4.80 though being charged 10p for a friggin box rattled me a bit.
my 18th year` in a row being there..i love it, will god willing be back next year.
We`were on the campsite with our motorhome, fair rates I thought, yep overall, more plusses than minuses, off home to spain now, thankx again for a good whitby folk week...


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 09:56 AM

Whitby is still the best folk week and the best seaside town in GB, no arguement.

eric


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: le cheffie
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 05:34 AM

When I was a steward at Whitby, I used to work the Spa (pavillion) on a night and for those people without season tickets it could be a very expensive night out. I guess its not so bad if you just go for the concerts and the pub sessions, but if you add up the cost of accommodation and then some door prices then the festival could cost as much as a foreign holiday.

Just out of interest what was the price of a weeks season ticket with camping this year.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:10 AM

you dont have to wait till your 60 you can get a discount at 50 a the swimming pool in whitby.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: nutty
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 03:55 AM

Perhaps the problem doesn't lie with Whitby but with ourselves and our eroding pensions/salaries.

The young of today seem quite happy to pay exhorbitant prices for just about everything while we oldies expect to get good value for money particularly when on a restricted income.

I spent a fortune at Whitby (not unexpectedly) but I also had a great time and as I use Whitby as my main holiday it was still a lot cheaper than anything else I could have done. Fortunately I didn't come across any pub/club charging for water so saved a lot that way.

Parking wasn't a problem as I parked out of town and used my free national bus pass - of course I could have walked.

I didn't buy a season ticket but paid at the door for the things I wanted to do and took advantage of the 25% off for pensioners.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:32 PM

yes betsy we are victims of our own suckses. As is every landlord who rents from the brewery or a landlord. Everytime they sell more beer they get charged more rent. The cost of rates and sent is based on property prices. Which brings up back to just what i said in the first place. Think about it humphrey smith dont need to sell you beer. He could wish for nothing for the rest of his life just by selling the plough in whitby.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Betsy
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 04:21 PM

Seeing Joe's and Tykes messages above has made me focus on a slightly different way of thinking.
Joe,in thinking this is purely a discussion about high prices which is not exactly, and Tyke saying, hang on there's plenty of reasonable pubs if you go and bother to look .Apologies for the paraphrase Tyke.
Tyke it's not a question of CHEAP beer - Folkies need to pay what Joe Public has to pay - no arguments, but maybe the popular places where we gather and sing /play, are attracting the premium prices. Maybe (almost certainly) Tyke reassures us,there are reasonable places/pubs, therefore should we not be investigating which other pubs who would love to have our high consumption , along with our songs and music.
Maybe we are victims of our own success, and that, in using the same pubs year in year out, some pubs are taking us, and their pricing, for granted.
Joe , Whitby is truly a great place, in fact some would say it is almost a spiritual home to celebrate Folk music and song and dance and all I am trying to encourage is a discussion on how, based on my own findings and other peoples experiences, how it might be possible to halt this perceived slide before it puts off too many Folkies from attending, whether for the whole week, or just day trips.
Cheers Betsy


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 03:51 PM

how soon they forget joe humphrey smith banning all music! Because he would not say for a music licence! It was £1.30 a pint then dont know the cost of sam smiths now as i have not been in a sam smiths pub since!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 02:59 PM

I paid as much as 9 euros for a pint in France a month ago. The prices you're talking sound cheap.
I decided to grin and bear it, and have a good time nonetheless. If I lived there, I might have a different opinion.
The tavern price of beer in California can go from about $4.50 to $6.50 a pint - about a buck a bottle in supermarkets for good beer. I remember getting half-pint glasses in Wisconsin for fifteen cents, but that was in the 1960's.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 02:31 PM

im sorry you decided to only visit whitby folk week for a day. As you have just stated that you where already aware of the costs involved. So why did you if you didnt have the gumption to bring some food from home! Now i could direct to a few places where they sell cheap beer. But you are driving so what is the point. Yes yorkshire water have as you already must have been aware have made whitby a on go area as far as swimming goes. So yes its raining you cant leave the kids on the beach why did you come in the first place? Well im off to walk up the 199 steps to the abbey for free! Do you know im sure they put in extra steps every year. What a view and its free!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:58 AM

If you feel that you have been over charged at a cafe. Do not go back
That is what posters are saying - they will not be back!

I have to say on following this thread it has little to do with music
The fact that there appears to be less folk supporting the festival is about music.
This week I have spoken to at least 10 regular Whitby festival goers who have (like myself) only visited for the day instead of a week. This will impact on future festivals at this venue.
That is the message in Betsys opening post.
Sorry if it is negative but that is the thread.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 11:30 AM

well it depends were you park as to how much you pay and you will pay more for convenience. As with most cafes you will find it necky as cheap to buy a meal and not just a sandwich. If you feel that you have been over charged at a cafe. Do not go back. I have to say on following this thread it has little to do with music. It should be else where. There also seems to be a lot of guests posting nothing but negativity. About what is a great festival. Also if the price of beer is so high then why had the endeavor run out of my favorites last night as the station had done the night before. Tip if you go to the coop and buy a ready roasted chicken and some bread cakes you can feed your family better and cheaper than on beef burgers and get money of your parking to boot. Thats after using the customers loo for free!


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:46 AM

Just back from Whitby & must admit the prices are HIGH.
Ice cream cone (1 scoop, no flake etc.) £2.60
Plain beefburger £2.50
Parking £6.50
Only visited 1 day as with wife & child it is beyond my resources.
I dont mind paying when I get value but this was not.


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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:22 AM

G'dy Bruce, just try and calm down a bit, I haven't had a holiday for 8 years.

eric


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