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BS: which potatoes for what...?

Dave MacKenzie 31 Dec 09 - 10:50 AM
Mo the caller 31 Dec 09 - 09:08 AM
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Ed T 31 Dec 09 - 06:57 AM
VirginiaTam 31 Dec 09 - 06:26 AM
Sooz 31 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 10:50 AM

I seem to remember a note on Sainsbury's anyas saying they were exclusive. Great to find a potato you can actually taste!


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 09:08 AM

We like to grow Sharpe's Express as a Second Early. It has an excellent flavour, but when it has grown to a reasonable size it disintegrates when you boil it. Someone suggested steaming - problem solved.
Maincrop we grow King Edwards. Another good flavour, and another that tends to disintegrate if boiled.

What matters is 'waxy' or 'floury'. If you want to boil them without bits falling off waxy are recommended, but I don't like them, so I steam my floury Sharpes and Edwards.
Reds and Whites are just the colour of the skins, except that Whites used to be the name greengrocers used to fob us off with Majestic - we've grown them too (just once), huge yields of enormous, tasteless spuds.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 08:42 AM

Get them from Sainsbury's oddly enough as they are supposedly named after Lady Sainsbury whose gardener discovered the variety in 1995.

Wonder if that means I can't get them at other supermarkets or grocers?

T'would be a pity as I really like them but I hate Sainsbury's as a shop. Our local branch keeps discontinuing the items we regularly buy and their stocking of fresh produce is abysmal on a good day. On a bad day it is nonexistent.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 06:57 AM

VirginiaTam -Do you get 'em in the supermarket, from a local source, or do you grow 'em yourself?


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 06:26 AM

I love Anya potatoes

They are small, knobbly and have a wonderful nutty flavour. Boil to done in about 8 to 10 minutes.

Fantastic in mashed and buttered, potato salads, also fry or sautee, and even taste great plain and cold. I often put a couple (boiled and chilled) in my container of raw veg which is my lunch everyday.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Sooz
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM

We grew Pink Fir Apples this year. They were amazing - yielding 2-3 Kg per root. Delicious as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 10:43 PM

I stand corrected...But, it sounds more like a kids camp song... kinda sproutie-like....asgrowing from under a wet towel (my mistake those are bean sprouts). Alas, .I guess it surely qualify as a song.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 10:34 PM

Chorus:
Artichokes and brussels sprouts –
Do I have to eat them?
Artichokes and brussels sprouts –
I would rather leave them
Artichokes and brussels sprouts –
Turnips, leeks and yams -
I would rather have just peanut butter and jam!
The sun was shining, It was very very hot.
We packed a lunch and went to the park
They took out tuna salad, coleslaw and eggs
But when I reached for choc'late cake
I found these instead

Chorus

We went to the baseball game to see the Yankees play
The score was tied at the bottom of the eighth
They called out, "Hot dogs, soda pop and ice cream."
I bought a bag of popcorn
And when I looked inside

Chorus

We went to grandma's to have our Sunday dinner
There was a turkey that was roasted so brown
Cranberry sauce, corn and some fritters
Then with a cheery smile she said
"Try some of these"

Chorus



from the www


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 10:26 PM

Take those potatoes, Brussle Sprouties. I wager there's no song about that small green cabbage. Just scan the calibre of folks paying musical homage to the mighty spud, (James Taylor, Neil Young, Louis Armstrong) that feeds many folks in the west (I bow to Mr. Rice, who also feeds many hungry folks)?


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Beer
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 09:27 PM

I think I may have mentioned this in some past thread. I was with Dad once in a grocery store and we picked up a bag of P.E.I. Spuds. He looked at them and said that they were not spuds from the Island. Well to make a long story short he ended up telling the manager of the store that he didn't know his arse from his elbow if he thought these were Island potatoes. I finally got him out of there and got him calmed down. Boy was he pissed off. He knew his Island Spuds.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Beer
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 09:21 PM

I have a great potato gun here that can reach at least a few thousand yards.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 09:00 PM

Gnu, I'd use the cooked ones for eating and the uncooked ones for throwing.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Beer
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 08:56 PM

Ed,
I think you should change your handle to the "Potato Man" or something like that.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:48 PM

That putting the potato under straw method has been discussed by my organic gardening guru. You might want to poke around for directions at DirtDoctor.com.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:15 PM

Oops, double posted...maybe it was LHs submission ghost?


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:14 PM

Check out these....many you cant find in the supermarket, some are heirloom species....great tasting, but don't produce as well for the big producers:
https://stores.myregisteredsite.com/user1385939/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RPFL&Category_Code=CSP


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:10 PM

Want to get some potato seed, and grow your own (some are heirloom varieties, that you won't find in the supermarkets....not that they don't taste better, just that the big producers grow more productive-disease resistant types (who can resist the colors of the blues, the Purple Majesty, Viking and Peruvian, the reds and blossoms, the French Fingerling, the Inca or Rose Gold....the shape of the peanut , the Ozette, th e LaRatte and the Nicola...the taste of thehumble Green Mountain, the Irish Cobbler or the Kennebec... its all just so starchy mouth watering:
https://stores.myregisteredsite.com/user1385939/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RPFL&Category_Code=CSP


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:03 PM

Someone taught me a never-fail trick for frying potatoes. After you slice them run cold water over them until the milkiness (loose starch?) disappears. Your fried potatoes will be light and fluffy and the slices hold their shape. I do it with chunks of potato too, potatoes that are meant for another dish, like potato salad or soup.

As to raising potatoes, has anyone tried something that an acquaintance of mine used to do: Instead of planting them underground, he cut seed potatoes up as usual then tossed them on the ground which he then covered heavily with straw (he was a farmer).

As the summer progressed, he would gather enough for a meal by going out and lifting a section of straw and detaching the potatoes, which were lying in plain sight.

If I ever get the chance that is the method I will use.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: pdq
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 07:01 PM

The vast majority of potatoes grown in Idaho are the Russet variety.

I think it's time to give that state a new slogan. I humbly submit this, an ode to the Russet potato...

                                    "The spud that made Idaho a dud"


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 06:31 PM

There are even many potato songs....but maybe you shouldn't go there:
http://www.potatoengine.com/potatoradio.html

(meets BS music content standards)


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 06:27 PM

Can't help this one....possibly Beer's best recipe:


http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/special/2002/onepotato/beer.html


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 06:25 PM

Here is another site with information, ads potato rewcipes to boot... (as self confessed former PEIslander BEER may have chosen to put it):
http://www.peipotato.org/english/produce_varietyavailability.asp

If you are really into potatoes, there is the Great Potato Book:

http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/special/2001/great-potato/


Is someone who really likes potatoes a potatophile (not that there's anything wrong with that) or a potato aficionado, or both?


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 06:05 PM

Martha Stewart has a recipe for potato salad that I have adopted. I used to boil russet potatoes and peel and dice them once they cooled, but Stewart recommends taking the small waxier types like Klondike or Klondike Rose or the little red potatoes, and without peeling, simply wash then dice, and put in a steamer. They are easier to cut when they're raw, they cook fast, they're ready to go when they cool, and the peels make the salad pretty. It's easier, faster, and better for you.

I'm planning to plant my own potatoes this year. My neighbor up the street grows them and says they come out fine.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 06:01 PM

As far as I'm concerned, any potato with Maris in its name is no use if you like the taste of potatoes. Not too bad if you just want it as a base for cheese, brown sauce or anything with a strong flavour of its own.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 05:03 PM

I've never heard of these varieties, but it's a useful chart type:
http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/fruit_veg_diary/fruit_veg_mini_project_november_1c_potato.asp


Most of the poteto's you find in the supermarket are grown by huge producers, whose main goals are high productivity, freedom of disease, maturity rate, to suite their soils, and flavour. I suspect flavour is normally the last criteria. Certain varieties may be best suited for frozen French fries...for supermarkets and fast foot places....so they are most often grown. If you really want the tastier varieties, try the smaller producers at the local farmers market....they tend to also know which are the best for different cooking.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:54 PM

Gee. , look at all the potato varieties:

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/plaveg/variet/potpome.shtml


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: pdq
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:12 PM

"The potato which Idaho made famous was not exactly a Burbank. The Burbank variety is a smooth-skinned long white potato and the Russet Burbank variety, which Idaho grows, has a slightly rough reticulated skin commonly termed netted as a Netted Gem, a common synonym for Russet Burbanks.

According to Luther Burbank the Russet Burbank was originated by a man in Denver, Colorado, who evidently selected a chance sport out of Burbank. Burbank stated that, 'These Burbank potatoes raised by Lon D. Sweet of Denver, Colorado, have a modified coat in a way that does not add to their attractiveness. It is said, however, that this particular variant is particularly resistant to blight, which gives it exceptional value.'" ~ from net

The potato commonly called a Russet (aka Russet Burbank, aka Netted Gem) produces three times the yield as many varieties and is quite resistant to blight. It is also large, making handling somewhat easier and cheaper.

Positive characteristics ascribed to the Russet appear to be economic.

As far as eating the darn things, "dry", "tasteless" and "grainy" seem to be common attributes.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:11 PM

Nevermind:
http://www.mycolombianrecipes.com/2009/07/salted-potato-papa-salada.html


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: GUEST,Falco
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:10 PM

It's hard to beat a King Edward.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:09 PM

The Columbian restaurants in NYC sell a fast food potato - small, usually red and coated in salt. I have tried a dozen different ways and simply can't duplicate them. Anyone have a recipe?


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 04:03 PM

I almost forgot the yellow Russet potato (newer versions are called Innovator) . It has an excellent taste as a baked potato, as mashed potatoes, as roasted potatoes and as French fries.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 03:56 PM

Blue potatoes are also a good dry potatoe, good with fish....especiallt salt fish....for those who enjoy it.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 03:55 PM

The best potatoes for chips are older potatoes. Never use new ones. The reason is as they age some of the starch turns to a sugar, thus they brown up better. New ones are hard to get brown and tasty.

Green Mountains are a really dry potatoes. Some of the red variety are quite a bit moister. Another good one is a Sebago.

As to grades, traditionally, the bigger ones were considerd seconds...Table Potatoes were considered the mid sized rounder ones....those that fit neatly in your hand.

Beware of green (sunburned) potatoes....as this is caused by exposure to sunlight or inside light. They contain a nasty toxin that cant be cooked away. It's best to buy potatoes in paper bags....as clear plastic ones (or those exposed to light) allow more of this condition tp occur....especially when stored directly under fluorescent lighting.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: gnu
Date: 30 Dec 09 - 03:40 PM

They are selling "baking potatoes" at the grocers' here now. Individually. At way too much per pound. I asked the head veggie what kind they were. He said, "baking". I asked what KIND they were. He said, "I just work here." But, he's a friend of mine and he also said, "They are the expensive kind... but, people buy them and I get to keep working here."


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: John Hardly
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:44 PM

here. I posted this in a different thread a couple of days ago. Open Mike refers to is upthread.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:12 PM

Well it's obvious the US has different potatoes to the UK then!


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:09 PM

My God, you're an exotic devil, Thompson.....I can see its all black sheets, aromatherapy, and loosening the chakras in your house.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 05:30 PM

I can get Russets, Yukon Gold and some kind of red. That's IT. Unless we grow them of course. We did grow them several years, but nothing would keep well. Not even in the basement. We managed to eat most of them tho.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Thompson
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:49 PM

Poor St Patrick, never to taste a potato. But maybe St Brendan did.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Cats
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:32 PM

For new potatoes either Cornish Earlies or Jersey Royals and for a good all round potato try the very old fashioned variety of Pentland Dell.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Thompson
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:25 PM

Records or Golden Wonder for mashed potatoes, I'd say.

I like to steam the potatoes in their jackets before mashing. When they're almost ready I put on the milk to heat up, and then take the potatoes out - wearing rubber gloves (me, not the spuds) and peel them swiftly, and put them into the heating milk, so that they can be mashed in without either milk or spuds getting the shock of cold.

As I rub the skin off and put them in and mash them I add a dose of sea salt, some butter and some good fruity fresh olive oil (gives the mashed potatoes a richer, fruitier taste).

When they've mostly absorbed the milk, I take them off the heat and cover the pot and allow them to spend a little time thinking about life before being served.

A variation is champ, where you saute some onions, scallions or leeks in butter before adding hot milk, then the potatoes.

And colcannon (served at Hallowe'en) is made with the addition of chopped kale or sometimes cabbage to the onion-butter-milk mixture.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:23 PM

Boiling potatoes? Haven't heard of that in years.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Becca72
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 12:01 PM

Why, MAINE potatoes, of course! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 11:49 AM

Thanks Geof, that sounds good!


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:03 AM

There's that knob of butter again!


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: MMario
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:32 AM

wow. around here you are lucky to have a choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:24 AM

Hi WLD! IMHO;
King Edwards for roasting
Murphys for baking
Maris Piper or Desiree for mash
Cheshires or Jersey Royals for new potatoes
Tim


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 05:34 AM

Maris Pipers for everything... they're fantastic.

Best ever for potato cut prints, they stay firm for ages and can make good sharp prints.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 05:19 AM

WLD - as far as I am concerned, the secret to perfect mashed potato isdon't try to boil lumps which are too big or the outside will be cooked and the inside rock hard. A small spud,- about 31/2" long would cut in half (slices will cook quicker, but the end point when they disintegrate can be difficult to guess - slices work better for partial cooking before being spread over someting to bake in an oven). Boil them until the point of a sharp kife will penetrate without any resistance. It doesn't matter if one or two lumps start to collapse around the edges, that is sorted out in stage 2. Drain your spuds using a colander or strainer. They will be quite wet at this point, especially if they are overboiled. Place the strainer in the top of the hot but empty pan, so water can drip off. The hot potatoes will dry off by producing steam. The result is a quite "fluffy" texture. If, like yours, they are VERY wet, just leave them a bit longer, but keep some heat under them to speed the de-watering process.
When they are about dry enough, put a small amoulnt of milk and a knob of butter in the pan below the colander and put it over a very low heat so the milk warms slightly and the butter melts. Don't try to make the milk boil.
Add the potatoes and mash until the lumps are all gone, then put back over a low heat and mash them again, adding more milk if too dry,and continue to mash until they reach a smooth consistency.
As for variety, different potatoes will give different flavours, I like King Edwarsa, but am perfectly happy with Tesco Value as long as they are cooked right.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: which potatoes for what...?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:50 AM

Thanks ted - you could well be right. i cut them very thin - so they would cook quick. the actual boiling my wife did. I thought there was too much moisture and microwaved it for ten minutes - to get rid of the wateriness - although it wasn't too bad. However the resultant potato seemed a little too near that sort of Smash texture for my liking.

What do you reckon - do you cook from cold water, or put in a kettle full of boiling water. if you did the latter - how long - or to cut to the chase - how does one know its at the RIGHT point- for the correct texture?


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