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BS: Pop up tents

JulieF 24 Jul 07 - 04:17 AM
GUEST,Neovo 24 Jul 07 - 05:07 AM
skipy 24 Jul 07 - 05:12 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Jul 07 - 05:18 AM
Dazbo 24 Jul 07 - 05:26 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Jul 07 - 05:35 AM
Emma B 24 Jul 07 - 06:24 AM
Bee 24 Jul 07 - 06:48 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Jul 07 - 07:03 AM
Rapparee 24 Jul 07 - 09:14 AM
Bee 24 Jul 07 - 10:19 AM
JulieF 24 Jul 07 - 10:28 AM
Red and White Rabbit 24 Jul 07 - 11:38 AM
Rapparee 24 Jul 07 - 11:58 AM
nutty 24 Jul 07 - 11:59 AM
GUEST,Noreen 24 Jul 07 - 12:21 PM
Rapparee 24 Jul 07 - 01:13 PM
North/South Annie 24 Jul 07 - 02:12 PM
ClaireBear 24 Jul 07 - 02:35 PM
Rapparee 24 Jul 07 - 03:49 PM
Mrs.Duck 24 Jul 07 - 04:23 PM
GUEST 24 Jul 07 - 05:45 PM
JohnInKansas 24 Jul 07 - 06:22 PM
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Gurney 24 Jul 07 - 10:30 PM
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Subject: BS: Pop up tents
From: JulieF
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:17 AM

I'm going to dip my toe back into the world of festivals and camping.   As I will be on my own and a rather incompetent tent assembler, I have been looking at pop up tents. Looks like they go up easy and then collapse into a circular bag for carrying ( easier on public transport ?).   My only quam is that they may not be very sturdy but that may not be too important as I'm am not likely to be camping on the side of a mountain

Has any one any experience of these ?

Thanks
J


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: GUEST,Neovo
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:07 AM

Pop ups tend to be a bit more expensive and the bendy pole type have both greatly improved and reduced in price of the last few years. There will always be somebody about to give you a hand the first time.

Happy re-camping!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: skipy
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:12 AM

Make sure you check out Ebay, yesterday I bought a brand new 6 berth RRP £249.99, from dealer on Ebay £66! The guy has 89,000 pos. feedbacks!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:18 AM

Look like fun to me I've seen them for under £30.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Dazbo
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:26 AM

You can get tents cheaply these days on the high street (well two man ones anyway) and they're dead easy to put up. I'd reckon about half an hour tops the first time then it gets quicker. I've not tried the pop up ones but I've heard plenty of humourous stories about trying to get them back into their bags after use. I'd also suggest you take warm cloths/bedding as it can get really cold even in August and ear plugs are always a boon I find.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:35 AM

Cheap here
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Emma B
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 06:24 AM

I was at a beer festival/music event and saw a whole family with these tents in 3 different sizes. They certainly are easy to errect!

look at this range

I'm thinking of buying one to compliment my other camping euipment for a short overnight stop.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Bee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 06:48 AM

Husband just bought a three man popup tent, with fly, for about fifty dollars at Canadian Tire (must be a UK equivalent). Experimentation caused him to aver that it is easy up but not so easy down. My observation is that it appears quite sturdy, really is easy up, and the down part just requires a little more care. It went nicely back in the bag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 07:03 AM

It's mechanics, if you take a semi rigid circle of plastic or similar and twist it into a figure eight, just a slight twist more and it wants to fold into a double circle. That's what I assume is the theory in packing them away again.
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 09:14 AM

'Druther have the bendy fiberglass poles and such. I've been in the others in a stiff wind and they tend to bend down upon you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Bee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:19 AM

Giok, you'd end with a mess if you tried that with this design. There are four two piece bendy poles attached to a hub at centre. Floor plan is square. Setting up, you just lay tent flat with hub at centre, slap hub, and up she rises. Taking down requires seperating each pole into two (strung together with cord, of course), folding bottom pieces from corner to centre, bring all towards hub, fold and stuff. 'Dome' is a misnomer, although in profile the tent appears as a dome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JulieF
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:28 AM

Thanks for all your advice. Still in shock as someone is actually going to sell me a house, So i wandered out into the centre of Sheffield and bought the tent as well.   Its very light to carry. Will have ago at setting up in middle of kitchen floor ( just anough room) and practice putting it back in the bag again while watching the little video on the website.

Thanks again
J


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 11:38 AM

my kids used to have one of these -very easy to put up easy to put down once you get the knack but they are quite cold to sleep in so take your thermals!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 11:58 AM

Get a piece of heavy plastic (6 mils or better) and cut it to the shape of the floor plus a few inches (or centimeters if you prefer). Put it UNDER the tent floor to keep the ground moisture out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: nutty
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 11:59 AM

My friend slept in one of these last weekend at Saddleworth. Being single skinned, they really are fine weather tents.
Rain water (AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF IT) seeped through the zips and made the inside quite damp. It was easy to move though so we pulled it inside the gazebo for the rest of the weekend.

Certainly not recommended for serious camping.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 12:21 PM

Very impressed with the 2-man one we got- from Decathlon- and it is instantly erected! Bought a 4-man one on the strength of that, so we shall see at Warwick how that gets on.

Was concerned whether it would be waterproof, but it kept out a heavy downpour. Dual skin too, so as warm as a normal small tent.

Other peeps on campsite were dead impressed at speed of erection. Not so quick to put away though, and it does require a certain knack- similar to Giok's description (these are not two-piece poles, Bee) but not as simple as a plastic hoop as it has an inner and outer tent attached.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 01:13 PM

Yeah, seam-sealer and a good fly look important. Our tent doesn't go up as fast and probably cost more, but it works for us. It will allow me to stand up inside, and we can put in a queen-sized inflatable bed. I guess I'm just at the age where...well, I've slept in the mud, in the rain, on gravel and rocks, and even outside at 15 degrees F....


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: North/South Annie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:12 PM

Check whether its single or double skin - as said already said,single skin tents are not very warm or waterproof ? Also check what the base is made of as there seems to be new tents around now with the base sheet made of the same fabric as the rest of the tent ( therefore the so called groundsheet part is actually like the wall of the tent ). I bought an otherwise great tent but I had to return it because of this problem. (I tried waterproof sheet under base of tent (see Rapaires suggestion ) but it didn't work in this case, although it probably would with some tents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: ClaireBear
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:35 PM

Rapaire, I have one of those too, and I love it. Complete with queen-size inflatable bed, it's my summer bedroom. However, its poles did get rather bent when faced with the challenge of a British Columbian downpour, which pooled in the top of the rain fly while we were off adventuring. They still work, but they have made the already otherworldly shape of the tent even more improbable.

Because of its shape and festive orange-and-lichen color scheme, I call it "the Leaky Cauldron" even though it doesn't actually leak. It's an endearment, really.

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 03:49 PM

My brother and some friends, years back, took a canoe trip through the boundary waters canoe area. They had a new nylon tent, all waterproof and then re-waterproofed by them. The floor came a good six inches up the wall, too.

And so, that first night, they retired, firmly zipping the door up to keep out the mosquitoes -- and awakened the next morning in about four inches of their own sweat. Seems like they trapped moisture IN as well as keeping moisture OUT. And that's why God made rainflies for tents....


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:23 PM

We bought one of the 'festival tents' for Maddie but decided to keep her in the caravan with us given the rain. till think it was worth the money as this is unusual summer weather and it will be very easy to put up when its fairer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:45 PM

Mine rolled away in a high wind before I could get it fastened to the ground properly. Gave us quite a chase too. Stormed that night and we ended up sleeping in the car; it really is a fair-weather tent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 06:22 PM

For the comfort-minded, there's This Tent Style (shown at a popular "festival?").

A little more expensive, but great for the larger family.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 06:35 PM

Well, Our Tent will hold 4 Queen size mattresses in a pinch. Otherwise, it's a card table, 2 chairs, 2 portable drawer towers and a Midnight Loo. It's
shivered a bit in the wind, but never come down, and we are careful to pitch it where it won't flood. Takes about 45 mins to put it up tho.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 08:27 PM

That's an exceedingly classy tent, Sorcha; but I wouldn't think an erection would take 45 minutes if you're giving given proper assistance. Of course, when camping it's best not to be in a hurry.

Now MINE just backs in, you open the door, and you're done (with the essentials).

It does, of course, take about 3 months to get it packed to go (for WVA or another long session) and 2 months to clean it up for storage when you get home, but the air conditioning and built-in oven and refrig are nice touches for old people like usn's.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Bee
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 08:42 PM

I've tented under everything from a plastic tarp to a beautiful limpet shaped Black's canvas marvel, but have moved on to serial small trailers: buy one, smarten it up, use it a couple years, sell and get another. But I long for an Aliner...

I've gotten quite good at trailer upholstery. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 08:57 PM

Well, we do also have a 30' 'tin tent'....5th wheel with fridge, oven, micro, etc....LOL! John.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 09:15 PM

I recommend one of those roll up foam 'camping mats' under the sleeping bag. It provides insulation - warmth and dryness. There are many styles and prices.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 09:42 PM

PS...it's not the poles, it's all those stakes...and the tent does nicely hold a queen size bed. We also have a couple of nylon ones for Guest Houses if necessary.

Foam mats? Hell, Robin, I need at least 12"! LOL!....


I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:03 PM

For warmth and dryness in any tent where you can possibly fit one, a small cot that keeps some air under your ... (low hanging parts?) is the only really satisfactory solution if there's any possiblity of rain or even heavy dew. Even then, it's difficult to keep the covers from draping down into dampness on the floor and making everything dampish. (Well, more dampish than ordinary bedtime activities...)

A good ground cloth (impermeable) under the tent and an impermeable "floor" tarp that doesn't quite touch the walls of the tent may help to keep seepage/trackage etc from accumulating in the bottom of a tent that's in good shape in good weather, but there really is no such thing as a "dry" tent that people sleep in. Ventillation when the tent is empty is the best (partial) remedy.

A good thick air matress is perhaps second best, but in our sandbur prone climes one seldom lasts more than a couple of outings, and never more than a single "season." They can be patched but only if you can find where the leak is - which usually is close to impossible. Sandburs, and other "pricklish plants" here don't quite make holes, they just make "generalized porosity" in an air mattress.

If you're camping where it's consistently dry, with little variation between day and night temps (to preclude dew), or in very cold places where the ground is solidly frozen, a "ground pad" of (usually half inch) thick foam is quite helpful.

A principal problem with the smaller "crawl-in" tents is that if you can't stand up inside, at least "straight enough" to pull on a pair of slightly damp trousers, you must be in a campsite that tolerates seeing your "dressage" out in the open. In many places this is (and should be anywhere there are campers) considered quite acceptable, but I've run into unreasonable and irrational objections. "Personal modesty" might also be a consideration, although I can't really think why. (Having nothing that anyone cares to look at, I generally find I'm mostly "invisible," to an extent permitting "necessaries," but the situation might be otherwise for otherones.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Gurney
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:30 PM

Pitch it downwind from your car, and tie it to the car. If you can.

Wouldn't use one myself. I've camped in some serious wind-and-rainstorms.   Hey, sometimes you don't see them coming.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 11:14 PM

Now that we seem to be talking about all kinds of tents, I'll contribute this one - The Oztent! It's a pop up tent that lives up to its name. I've seen them put up in 30 seconds as they claim. A friend has one and camps in it for long periods of time.

The benefits are that it is good quality, strong and durable, the straight sides give you a lot of standing room, and it can be added to. The drawbacks are that it is quite expensive to buy new, and bulky.

I've been tempted by the idea of getting one but haven't had the money. However I have another lovely dome tent now with plenty of room for the extra high queen size airbed and storage for clothes in one room and most of my kitchen stuff in another. It has a lot of interesting features including a fly which can be lifted up and sections zipped together to make an awning. I'd link to a picture, but the shop where I got it doesn't have a picture online now. The tent is surprisingly easy to put up, although you wouldn't call it a pop up tent.

I've seen toilet/shower tents that pop up. I may get one of those some time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 12:01 AM

Here are a few pictures from a couple of weeks ago, of the place where we'll be camping in a couple of weeks.

The first picture basically is the equipment shed where they keep the maintenance stuff during the off-season. The second is of the permanent "public potties." Both of these are "on the high ground" a good 6 feet above the level of most of the campground. The pictures were taken about 2 feet before the river crested.

Down in the second row, the "lakes" with all the telephone poles are the "new" east campground. It will be the "rodeo grounds" for the County Fair in about a week, and in three weeks have a couple of hundred mostly tin tents (with wheels). Most of the "real tents" will be over in the #2 (Pecan Grove) campground where the water was about 8 - 12 feet deep when the pics were taken.

I've weathered 7" rain in 24 hours, with 40+ mph winds, in the #2 camp area of that campground (in the same year) in a 6' dome tent, with no particular damage, and half-inch thick ice on the water in our "open gathering/campfire area" in front of the same tent the following year.

(But the weather was wonderful last year.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:02 AM

Pop-up - peg one end/guy first - they make good kites.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:48 AM

I slept (fitfully) in a tent one night, Never again Cold and clammy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Mr Happy
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 09:04 AM

Very impressive demo videos, though didn't see one you could stand up in.

Do they exist?

Hint for getting ordinary dome back in bag - as I've just done with me 3 person? one post Paddleworth!

Wrap a suitcase tightenable strap around it, then by tightening the strap, you can compress the thing gradually so it'll fit back in its bag & you can get the zip fastened!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 09:06 AM

The more I think about the more I reckon you should go for something a bit more robust and usable, have a look at the Lichfield Vanguard 2 0n this page, much more practical, and easy to erect, just practice somewhere before you try it in public.
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Emma B
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 09:44 AM

It seems Julie has already made a choice.                           

I would agree that a geodesic (or even a semi geodesic) tent would be a far better "all round" choice. I certainly would reccommend Lichfield, I had a vis-vis for years which is still performing gallant service as the gate tent at a local festival and my even older Vango was one of the few tents left standing one day when the old Whitby campsite was up by the Abbey.

My current "festival" tent is the Aztec Merida
a light weight and very stable two person tent which is also high enough to stand up in but needs two people to errect also.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 10:33 AM

..it needs two people to erect it...now, there's an opening! Hey, Spaw!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Emma B
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 10:38 AM

oh dear Kendall! - I got into enough "trouble" the last time I posted about this tent :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 01:39 PM

Emma - is trouble ever enough for you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 02:37 PM

I can see some real potential for a song, here, folks, with quotes like these:

up she rises

impressed at speed of erection


**BG**

JennyO, those Oztents are neat!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:10 PM

And if you're sleeping on the floor with blankets (or sleeping bag + blankets) remember that an extra blanket is much more effective [i]under[/i] you than over you (heat wise)


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:29 PM

I've seen tents here (in Cheyenne, WY) that attach to the open lift hatch on the rear of the car. I know that they are available for the Saturn Vue that I drive, and others but I don't know which ones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:08 PM

This is what you want.
Well it's what I want anyway.
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Noreen
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:17 PM

Decathlon 2-Second Tent is the one I mentioned above- click the link to see how quick and easy it is to put up!

Drawback- I have seen on other sites that Decathlon are no longer trading and so these will be no longer available. If you still have a Decathlon trading near you (as we have at Merry Hill in Birmingham) I would recommend you go and buy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:29 AM

No matter which tent you choose, if you have a vehicle to carry them, then buy a cheap plastic tarpaulin (as they are called) and a bundle of garden canes, a ball of good string and a dozen pegs.
If the festival is too sunny, it makes a shadehouse. If it is wet, you aren't confined to a small tent. If it is a total washout, drag that tent under it and use it for a fly.
Set it up like a ridge tent. You'll need some way of stopping the canes from sliding through the tarp grommets. Duct tape and washers?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 03:49 PM

I think the proper response to that is "piss off."

;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Jul 07 - 10:23 AM

Stilly - I'm reliably informed that with a tent like that, you can't 'piss off'.... not with any accuracy anyway...

These days, camping has ceased to be the adventure under canvas it used to be... I miss the days when all I had to pack was the tent and a little blue 'Camping Gaz' unit with plastic plate. I still try and keep things to a minimum these days but it's getting harder and harder to find a suitable tent that is portable (without needing a truck), adequate to a British summer (hail, rather than snow) and doesn't leak like a sieve.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Pop up tents
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 28 Jul 07 - 04:49 AM

I have a tent I can more or less stand up in (though admittedly I'm not tall). It was bought from a mail order catalogue, from the 'fishing equipment' page.


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