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Thread #51762   Message #790197
Posted By: InOBU
24-Sep-02 - 08:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Traveller Discrimination in the USA
Subject: RE: Traveller Discrimination in the USA
OH! As to Pavees being Romani... yes and no. I dissagree with Thomas Acton, the British historian, but, my theory is endorced by about three quarters of serrious Roma historians and sociologists... Acton believes the communities are completely separate in origion, I hope I am not misstating his views, if I am I applogise, I however, believe that seasonaly nomadic north Irish (for the most part) would travel for centuries to Scotland, where they would interact with Romanichales (Roma who came to England in the 13th century) intermarry, and were culturealy influenced. As a result, not only is there a conection by marriage there are lingusitic as well as cultural conections. There are many words, like Beor, for woman, which follow the same convention by which Gaelic words were converted into Scelta (the language of Travellers) where the vowles are interchanged, so the Romani word Bori for Bride, becomes Beor, or context of words changes, such as Noosh for dog, an animal that is part of the camp, is called a word almost identical to the Romani word Manoosh, fella or guy, calling your dog, hey manush, hey fella, becomes noosh. Cheers Larry