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Posted By: Bruce O.
12-Oct-98 - 06:26 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Johnny Has Gone for a Soldier
Subject: RE: Johnny has gone for a soldier
The recently published (July) 'Sources of Irish Traditional Music' gives for the first two tune versions of "Shule Aroon" to be published the ones in Moore & Stevenson's "A Selection of Irish Melodies. In Bk. 9 (1825) is "I wish I was on yonder hill" and in Bk. 10 (1834) is "Shule Aroon". These are slight variants, both in C time, A minor.

1: Text from Perthshire, Scotland, in 'A Ballad Book', by C. K. Sharpe, 1823.

I went to the mill, but the miller was gone
I sat me down and cried ohone!
To think of the days that are past and gone,
Of Dickie Macphalion that's slain.
Shoo, shoo shoolaroon
To think on the days that are past and gone,
Of Dickie Macphalion that's slain.

I sold my rock, I sold my reel,
And sae hae I my spinning wheel
And 'a to buy a cap of steel
For Dickie Macphalion that's slain.

I don't know when a text of the Irish song was first published.

2: Journal of the Irish Folk Song Society, c 1910.

"Siubhail a Ghraidh"

I'll sell my rock, I'll sell my reel,
When the flax is spun, I'll sell my wheel,
I'll buy my love a suit of green--
'S go dtheidh tu a mhuirnin slan.

I'll dye my petticoat, I'll dye it red;
And round the world I'll beg my bread,
For all my parents wish me dead--
So go dteidh tu a mhuirnin slan.

I wish I were on yonder hill;
Tis there I'd sit and cry my fill,
Till every tear would turn a mill--
So go dtheidh tu a mhuirnin slan.

It's often I sat on my true love's knee,
And many the false story he told me;
He told me things that could never be--
So go dteidh tu a mhuirnin slan.

I wish I were on the top of a wall--
The top of a castle would be higher than all-
I'd view the hurl and I'd spy the ball,
And I'd know my true love among them all.

I think it's likely that "Cavallily Man", c 1660, is a reworked version of a Scots or Northumberland song of the 1640's or 50's, and later versions stem from that. [See "Cavalily Man", c 1660, in the Scarce Songs file on my website, for the "I'll sell may rock, I'll sell my reel" verse. Its tune is called "Roger the Cavalier" in a 17th century Scots tune MS.]

Jack Campin posted an unusual version of "Shule Aroon" from Lady John Scott's MSS in NLS on the Scots=L newslist yesterday (Sunday) morning. This seems to be of the 1840's, and the MS also contains a badly noted copy of the tune, which doesn't look much like the Irish one.

Bruce Olson