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Posted By: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
24-Mar-20 - 07:16 PM
Thread Name: The origin of Sea Chanteys
Subject: RE: The origin of Sea Chanteys
Well, we agree on OP's sources anywho.

'Take off;' 'kicked out of the nest;' evolved; whatever the verbiage, it doesn't change the maths. Proto-chanty = 2400 years; chanty = 100 years... concurrent with the proto-chanty.

Something about the glossary or the calendar…


Just a personal thing, I simply prefer the twin route to the chanty...

As I said: ...consumer preferences for functional attributes. The twin routes are to wherever you are at the moment, not 'the chanty.'

If one defines chanty by the who, where and when (ie: 18th century, Anglo-American, merchant marine &c,) that's the when & where & who you'll find when you go looking.

The ancient “Spanish chanty” (saloma,) whenever, wherever, by whomever, turns off and on like a switch.

If one defines chanty functionally, by the how and why of maritime work song in general, one gets very different results for the same people, places &c.

The Complaynt, Sea Island mouth singers and Scots-Irish cotton screwers would share a common heritage in the iomramh (iorram, iurram, joram, juram &c.)

Gospel singing Yankee infantry oarsmen, of any shade... yeah, not so much.