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Thread #148617   Message #4002977
Posted By: Backwoodsman
01-Aug-19 - 12:14 PM
Thread Name: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns
Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns
John P - well you’ve done a great job of grabbing the stick by the wrong end. Did you actually read what I said? From your thin-skinned, defensive piece above, it doesn’t appear you did.

I’m on your side. My rant was against people like Bearded Bruce, and the huge number of other ‘from my dead hands’ gun-lunatics, headed up by the Agenda-Driven NRA, who insist that gun-controls will mean more shootings, and whose answer to the gun-violence in the US is ‘More Guns’ - the very same bigoted, violent sizeable minority you bemoan in your own rant.

Nowhere have I said that ‘everyone in the US is responsible’ - if you believe that’s what I said, please point me to where I said it.

And my point is that the UK and Australia have come up with a ‘concrete answer that is within the realms of possibility’, put it into effect, and the result is encapsulated in the numbers I quoted. We had 31 shooting-deaths (including suicides and accidents) in 2017, you had 39,000, IIRC. Those numbers speak volumes, yet Bruce still insists that the precise opposite would be the result if the kind of controls we have here were introduced in the US.

No-one is saying it’s easy but, unless you are happy to accept almost 40,000 shooting-deaths a year, 12,000 of which are murders, something must be done. Hand-wringing and saying “It’s difficult” is about as much use as those ‘thoughts and prayers’ everybody offers when another group of innocent kids is murdered in their classrooms.