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Posted By: Richie
19-Oct-18 - 02:40 PM
Thread Name: Origins: James Madison Carpenter- Child Ballads 5
Subject: RE: Origins: James Madison Carpenter- Child Ballads 5

After looking briefly at Child B, Percy's famous recreation, it's clear that the son's name was changed, the murder of the brother was changed to the murder of the father and a new ending was added. The ending is proven to be false by the earlier dialogue between mother and son-- if the mother was an accomplice all along-- the dialogue would have been different since she would have known what the son was doing.

The usual ending has been used in Twa Brothers and Lizie Wan which means the ballad may be older than c.1750 in Britain. Still the Scandinavian versions would be over 100 years older.