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Thread #162666   Message #3947183
Posted By: Steve Gardham
30-Aug-18 - 05:52 PM
Thread Name: New Book: Folk Song in England
Subject: RE: New Book: Folk Song in England
I thought I had Lee's book but on searching apparently not so I'd better not comment. The relationship between the two genres is quite complex and songs and influences move both ways. Like most genres Music Hall was influenced by a wide spectrum of other mostly smaller genres such as glee singing, London tavern singing, the coal cellars, burlesque in the theatre, American Minstrels and much more. Burlesquing folk songs and ballads predates the Music Hall but continued into the Music Hall era. Many Music Hall songs imitated folk songs and some were eventually taken up in oral tradition, classic example, Jim the Carter Lad by Harry Linn. Another example, a tavern song 'Little Pigs' was widely printed on broadsides and eventually oral versions were used in the Music Hall culminating in the 1920s recordings on 78s as 'The Old Sow'. 2 of the most prolific writers of the Music Hall era, Harry Clifton and Joe Geoghegan, had many of their songs continue in oral tradition. I don't know where you're based but I'm giving a presentation on the relationship between the 2 genres at Cecil Sharp House in London on the 10th November. There is also an earlier paper I wrote, with examples, on the TSF website.