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Thread #162666   Message #3945143
Posted By: Jim Carroll
20-Aug-18 - 10:04 AM
Thread Name: New Book: Folk Song in England
Subject: RE: New Book: Folk Song in England
"Tifty's Annie is Scottish, not English."
So ?
Is it your (or anybody's) argument that it was only the English working people who had to go out and buy their songs rather than make them themselves?
It is not my sole evidence, nor was i=witchcraft my only point - it is part of the reality of the lenghths aa family would go to to prevent his (money in the bank) daughter from marrying out of her class
Taken as a whole, in its way it is a protest at the inhuman effects that such a social system had on many of the families
That fact that the relates relates to real historical figures who are commemorated by a plaque on Fyvie Church wall for the father, a neglected and almost hidden grave for the daughter and a statue of the trumpeting herald on the top of alt least one castle adds to its reality, though, as far as I am aware, there are no written-up accounts of the killing for a hack to draw upon as far as I am aware - it's all in the ballad

There are many dozens of similar songs
Harry Cox once sang 'Betsy the Serving Maid' for Alan Lomax and Ewan MacColl and spat out at the end of it, "And that's what the buggers thought of us"
You can't beat that for an artist's commitment to his art.
Why should a money-making hack care about an insignificant and commonplace event such as this ?
As this seems to be the only point you seem to wish to comment on, I suggest you go back and see if you can come up with some more

"which Mr Carroll"
I choose to be addressed as Jim Carroll (Jim even) - it's supposed to be me who is the unfriendly troublemaker here
Please don't try to unseat me from my position Mr (or Mrs) whatever your name is